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LanternWaste

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109. It's easy for a biased and dogmatic mind to confuse nuance with hypocrisy.

Thu Dec 3, 2015, 12:14 PM

Dec 2015

It's easy for a biased and dogmatic mind to confuse nuance with hypocrisy, regardless of how unbecoming that may or may not be.

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You can't have it both ways. MLK VS Rosa Parks. [View all] Bonobo Dec 2015 OP

The timing was spectacular. AtomicKitten Dec 2015 #1

Yes. It was. Bonobo Dec 2015 #2

+1 Segami Dec 2015 #111

You've misspelled demwing Dec 2015 #126

I have lost count TM99 Dec 2015 #3

You must mean the Bernie Crowd. 85% of DU'ers yet they complain they're being victimized KittyWampus Dec 2015 #88

It is the 15% TM99 Dec 2015 #96

Several AA DUers have expressed misgivings in the Rosa Parks logo fiasco. joshcryer Dec 2015 #4

Not boxing anyone in at all. Bonobo Dec 2015 #6

Yes you are. joshcryer Dec 2015 #7

I wasn't even thinking of the AA posters when I wrote this OP. Bonobo Dec 2015 #18

And that's your problem. joshcryer Dec 2015 #63

Josh, don't let them upset you. yardwork Dec 2015 #100

Jury results skepticscott Dec 2015 #107

Of course you weren't thinking of African Americans CreekDog Dec 2015 #115

The OP did not even mention DU's African American members, why did you? merrily Dec 2015 #9

Huge +1! Enthusiast Dec 2015 #10

Thanks. I look forward to the day when we can talk about people, Democrats, etc. without merrily Dec 2015 #11

Right on, Merrily! Divernan Dec 2015 #12

Thank you. merrily Dec 2015 #23

Thanks. Just read this after I replied to JoshCryer. nt Bonobo Dec 2015 #20

You're welcome, but I did not post that as a favor to you. It's just true. merrily Dec 2015 #21

I understand. You're right. Bonobo Dec 2015 #24

Yep, a bizarre reading of your OP. merrily Dec 2015 #25

Nor does the OP mention a candidate for the Democratic nomination ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #29

Hillary Clinton's official campaign used an image of Rosa Parks. morningfog Dec 2015 #72

No... MrWendel Dec 2015 #93

Not by Bernie Sanders. Why can't you understand that important differnce? morningfog Dec 2015 #95

Bernie was compared to the next MLK? I call bs. Link? merrily Dec 2015 #105

It's a gross distortion Mnpaul Dec 2015 #135

Some sure do seem to specialize in, and excel at, gross distortions. merrily Dec 2015 #136

I replied to you on this point elsewhere and I am neither the OP nor a host of this group. merrily Dec 2015 #101

Why ask me? I am not the OP, not a host of GD:P and not an admin. merrily Dec 2015 #102

For the same reason this OP resides in DU:GD-P? Autumn Dec 2015 #104

it shouldn't be here, either ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #106

Well the hosts decided it fit GDP and allowed it. I know that for a fact because I sent an SOP Autumn Dec 2015 #108

Maybe because the post is about two iconic African American civil rights heroes. yardwork Dec 2015 #98

The Parks campaign button just came out and Parks is one of my heroes. So is MLK. merrily Dec 2015 #99

Once the mind realizes that implicit references and "mentioning" a thing LanternWaste Dec 2015 #116

Hypocrisy is a core value for neo-libs. Scuba Dec 2015 #5

No joke. They are going as far as to pull out the daily caller and Lewinsky. NCTraveler Dec 2015 #118

It's not the same though. merrily Dec 2015 #8

BWAHAHAHAHAHA! JaneyVee Dec 2015 #14

Yes, he did risk his life while an activist in Chicago. "Fled" to Vermont. LOL, he moved there. merrily Dec 2015 #16

Hillary was 15 during Civil Rights.... JaneyVee Dec 2015 #17

You don't care to educate yourself & the civil rights era lasted a hell of a lot longer than 1 year. merrily Dec 2015 #19

Actually she was desegregating churches in the south as a teen. JaneyVee Dec 2015 #34

Do we really have anyone's word on that, other than Hillary's? merrily Dec 2015 #37

Did you read the part about... JaneyVee Dec 2015 #46

Her friend Don Jones? merrily Dec 2015 #47

It says Karen Williamson. JaneyVee Dec 2015 #53

Remind me: What did Karen Williamson say about Hillary's integrating churches? merrily Dec 2015 #56

"All Black students felt they had a friendship with Hillary..." JaneyVee Dec 2015 #61

So, nothing at all do with "integrating churches" at 15 by taking a friend with her? Thanks merrily Dec 2015 #64

Karen Williamson was one of the friends she took to church. JaneyVee Dec 2015 #66

Again, Williamson said nothing at all about that. merrily Dec 2015 #68

Driving people around at 15? I guess if she was 15 1/2 with a licensed rider. When was Goldwater? libdem4life Dec 2015 #91

In NJ, I had to be 16 to get a learner's permit and 17 to get a driver's license. merrily Dec 2015 #94

I'm two years younger than Hillary, and was brought uo extremely Right Wing. I was a Nixon girl. libdem4life Dec 2015 #110

By high school, I would never have supported anyone like Goldwater. merrily Dec 2015 #112

So she saw MLK in 1962 and was desegregating churches in 1965? That means she... George II Dec 2015 #114

And Hillary registered Latin voters in Texas as a young woman. I don't think she was very safe lunamagica Dec 2015 #130

Park Ridge/elitist/white Chicago suburb!Not"the south" Divernan Dec 2015 #97

She did risk her life and the life of her only child artislife Dec 2015 #79

Not to mention Sinbad's life. He still can't remember a thing about it. That's trauma! merrily Dec 2015 #80

Lolz... artislife Dec 2015 #82

Andrew Goodman. Michael Schwerner. True heroes and martyrs of the Civil Righs movement lunamagica Dec 2015 #129

Sorry, but you have to follow the link I gave and read the material. It's clear he risked his life. merrily Dec 2015 #132

I read it, and please, it's not even close! lunamagica Dec 2015 #137

Boy, are you off on the wrong tangent. This is what I was referring to. merrily Dec 2015 #138

OK, sorry about that. My point still stands. Chicago and Mississip are worlds apart lunamagica Dec 2015 #140

Look at what I posted again. That minister had actually worked in Mississippi and in Chicago and merrily Dec 2015 #141

Yeah, I pulled Andrew Goodman and Michael Schwerner out of my ear lunamagica Dec 2015 #142

More bs. What you pulled out of your ear is that Chicago was nowhere near as dangerous merrily Dec 2015 #143

No, shameful is to try to put what Sanders did at the same level lunamagica Dec 2015 #145

More bs. I did not do that. I quoted a minister activist about how dangerous Chicago was merrily Dec 2015 #146

Honestly, youd think they were talking about Andrew Goodman or Michael Schwerner lunamagica Dec 2015 #127

He "risked his life"? That is hysterical! He was one of many who took part in a sit-in.... George II Dec 2015 #36

OMG. His work in Chicago far exceeded a college sit in. merrily Dec 2015 #67

Thanks, I couldn't figure out what the OP was about until this comment. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Dec 2015 #38

You're welcome. LOL, you must have just about all of them on ignore. merrily Dec 2015 #40

My blood pressure is already too high as it is. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Dec 2015 #48

Got it. Take care of yourself. You are a very valuable person. merrily Dec 2015 #59

I would add that Bernie has been under attack by Hillary for his Democratic Socialism and Dustlawyer Dec 2015 #65

"Under attack"? Quotes please. George II Dec 2015 #113

There is a reason the HRC crowd refuses to engage in real debate Android3.14 Dec 2015 #13

Don't forget double standards! merrily Dec 2015 #26

And when there's none of the above to fall back on... demwing Dec 2015 #128

Sure. That's the most creative of all and we all appreciate artistry. merrily Dec 2015 #133

What does this OP mean? JaneyVee Dec 2015 #15

I'm sorry you find it so impenetrable. Bonobo Dec 2015 #22

On target response. merrily Dec 2015 #27

Some of us have careers, kids, and social life... JaneyVee Dec 2015 #28

Janey, Janey, Janey... Bonobo Dec 2015 #30

What does having it both ways mean? JaneyVee Dec 2015 #33

It means that some people that spent a lot of effort talking about how Bonobo Dec 2015 #35

I still don't get it. But since you explained it... JaneyVee Dec 2015 #43

Better question ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #31

Where should Hillary's making Parks part of the Hillary primary campaign be posted, in your opinion? merrily Dec 2015 #42

Because those OPs are, at a minimum ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #44

This OP is about two candidates. If you are saying it's meta than that, maybe I can merrily Dec 2015 #71

Bernie exploitation of iconic figures: GOOD! HRC opportunism: BAD! Buzz Clik Dec 2015 #32

Well at least there is photographic evidence msrizzo Dec 2015 #39

Homage to an old friend. I really have no problem with that. However, ... Buzz Clik Dec 2015 #49

I don't see it on her website. msrizzo Dec 2015 #58

Exactly. In that context, I think it's fantastic. Buzz Clik Dec 2015 #69

Yes true. msrizzo Dec 2015 #74

Hillary supporters attacking Bernie and his supporters over MLK went on for many months merrily Dec 2015 #41

Hypocrisy is hypocrisy. Sorry, but the first hypocrite is merely the first, not the only one. Buzz Clik Dec 2015 #45

............. polly7 Dec 2015 #50

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Merrily does just fine, I was just laughing at the absurdity and childishness of your post. polly7 Dec 2015 #55

You need another shovel? Buzz Clik Dec 2015 #70

I'd paste that on your desktop and read it a few times a day. polly7 Dec 2015 #73

.. Buzz Clik Dec 2015 #75

Awesome. Put that beside the other one. Maybe enlarge them so you don't miss them every time you polly7 Dec 2015 #78

Your snark needs some serious work. It lacks teeth. However, I will grant you this: Buzz Clik Dec 2015 #81

It's not snark, it's truth. There's no way to work on it or give it teeth. polly7 Dec 2015 #83

Any evidence Bernie "marched with MLK"? JaneyVee Dec 2015 #57

What does that have to do with what I posted to Buzz? merrily Dec 2015 #60

Sanders words, in a crowd of 250k, he was way in the back of the crowd. Nt. seabeyond Dec 2015 #62

How close was Hillary to Parks on the bus? merrily Dec 2015 #117

She was honoring Parks on her day. Unlike Sanders being represented as the 2016 MLK seabeyond Dec 2015 #119

Sorry, that was not the question. merrily Dec 2015 #120

No, of course it wasn't, lmao. And still it is my answer. seabeyond Dec 2015 #123

Non-sequiturs R Us! merrily Dec 2015 #124

Ya ya ya. seabeyond Dec 2015 #125

That's rather coherent Capt. Obvious Dec 2015 #139

Hell I'd do the rec thing if it was an OP Autumn Dec 2015 #144

When did Bernie Sanders use an image of MLK? morningfog Dec 2015 #76

"What really else is there to say?" Clinton has never declared herself a Rosa Parks, seabeyond Dec 2015 #51

Ouch. Buzz Clik Dec 2015 #54

When did Sanders do more than honor MLK? morningfog Dec 2015 #77

Let's talk about Bernie for a second: Buzz Clik Dec 2015 #84

Never. As for DU fan clubs, the venom flows both ways morningfog Dec 2015 #86

Many of your fellow travelers cannot distance themselves from the horrid behavior. Buzz Clik Dec 2015 #87

His supporters have been repeatedly braying he marched w/MLK decades ago. KittyWampus Dec 2015 #90

"If Sanders had merely honored MLK, we would not be having this conversation." polly7 Dec 2015 #85

It'd be so easy to go through your past posts and point out your own hypocrisy... KittyWampus Dec 2015 #89

Personally I like the New Deal, The Fair Deal and the Real Deal. (as opposed to The Raw Deal). libdem4life Dec 2015 #92

As long I can think both were stupid but meaningless mythology Dec 2015 #103

Sorry, not having it. demwing Dec 2015 #131

It's easy for a biased and dogmatic mind to confuse nuance with hypocrisy. LanternWaste Dec 2015 #109

a bunch of Hillary supporters went to black sites and lectured thdm on how rosa JI7 Dec 2015 #121

yes there is a hypocrite like when one attacked mia arrow in a horrible way JI7 Dec 2015 #122

Wanna... MrWendel Dec 2015 #134