2016 Postmortem

MADem

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224. Such an event happened quite recently in the city of Boston.

Fri Dec 11, 2015, 03:28 PM

Dec 2015

I do think you treat HRC with an unreasonably harsh attitude and vibe--it's noticeable. I think you don't look very hard to find the good in her (and there's LOTS), and why you do that is something only you might learn through introspection, or maybe examining the sources where you get your news stories.

It's funny how strength and resolve are assets when they're ascribed to males of our species. Assign the same attributes to females, though, and they morph into "calculating," "cold," "no center," and all sorts of negative descriptors. I've seen it happen over and over again, and I often think that the people saying these things don't even realize what they're saying, or why. Or, more to the point, how they come across to people who are sensitized to this kind of language and characterization.

If Hillary Clinton had written an article saying that frigid women caused their own cervical cancer, she'd be dead in the water with no way of restarting the engines. She would have no hope of EVER being taken seriously in public life. In fact, she'd have been dead in the water before her husband was sworn in as POTUS. If Hillary Clinton had written some of the other fanciful writings of of a certain senator from VT, she very well might have pulled her husband's career down around both set of their ears, quite frankly. The rules are different, though, for some. Some get an "Oh well....that was YEARS ago!!!!" while others get an "UNFORGIVEN!! When you were a YOUNG TEEN, you helped support your father's favorite candidate!!! NEVER FORGET, people--NEVER FORGET!!!!"

I see it all the time. I take it from whence it comes, frankly.

Obama exercised great judgment in choosing HRC as his SECSTATE. If you truly like and support Obama, and you think his "values and intentions are good," you probably ought to think about actually liking and supporting his decisions--like choosing HRC as his SECSTATE.

But hey, whatever....

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Hillary Clinton Hasn't Won ANYTHING Yet [View all] Segami Dec 2015 OP

Well, she just won the endorsement of the Federal Workers Union! Walk away Dec 2015 #1

Do the members vote for these endorsements,or just wendylaroux Dec 2015 #6

When the membership was polled she won by a 2 to 1 margin! Walk away Dec 2015 #10

The AFGE National Executive Council, the organizing body for the union, wendylaroux Dec 2015 #15

Here you go! Maybe this will help. Walk away Dec 2015 #20

oh,ok,thanks! nt wendylaroux Dec 2015 #22

Those federal employees that were willing to participate. YOHABLO Dec 2015 #55

The people LOVE Bernie. He has the crowds, the Internet and our hearts. senz Dec 2015 #58

Some people love Bernie, he has activists, on and off the internet and some hearts Buzz cook Dec 2015 #66

And about twice as many supporters! nt Walk away Dec 2015 #82

That would explain the huge crowds showing upat her rallies...oh wait... Bubzer Dec 2015 #156

Yep... BeanMusical Dec 2015 #169

I have it on good authority that Hillary OWNS that piece of land. senz Dec 2015 #173

She also owns the small town nearby: BeanMusical Dec 2015 #177

LOL! Take that, Bill! senz Dec 2015 #189

It's easy for Bernie to get the crowds out.... Walk away Dec 2015 #212

LOL... the page is a lampoon of the teaparty. It's satire... and you completely missed that. *smh* Bubzer Dec 2015 #213

*Had the crowds. Agschmid Dec 2015 #109

Ouch! nt MADem Dec 2015 #140

Lol! BeanMusical Dec 2015 #164

Never forget DownriverDem Dec 2015 #41

No worries there. wendylaroux Dec 2015 #43

Hillary is not our enemy, but she is a big part of the problem. JDPriestly Dec 2015 #72

Well................... Thespian2 Dec 2015 #154

Great post. BeanMusical Dec 2015 #178

Such a peach. nt artislife Dec 2015 #179

She's not part of the solution at all. Major Hogwash Dec 2015 #205

For just about every union that has endorsed her (and Sanders) members are polled. George II Dec 2015 #60

Source please. Scuba Dec 2015 #209

About 25 unions have endorsed candidates, each methodology is slightly different..... George II Dec 2015 #225

George, are you just making shit up or can you back up your claim? Scuba Dec 2015 #227

No, and yes, but I'm not going to dig up stuff that has been discussed on this site dozens of times George II Dec 2015 #228

Then don't make claims like "most unions such-and-such" if you can't/won't back them up. Scuba Dec 2015 #229

I did it the first few times this came up months ago, and.... George II Dec 2015 #230

Gee, is that just like voting in November 2016? artislife Dec 2015 #23

Neither has Senator Lockheed Martin! And he is trailing pretty far behind.... Walk away Dec 2015 #30

You mean Senator Fuck this Shit - People need a fair chance? Ed Suspicious Dec 2015 #77

No I mean Senator "Lets get plenty of Pork for my state by building lots of war machines.... Walk away Dec 2015 #86

Are these the same war machines that Hillary wants to sell to Israel? frylock Dec 2015 #136

ZING! Bubzer Dec 2015 #176

Thank you. senz Dec 2015 #195

Really! artislife Dec 2015 #181

Have you seen the foam at the mouth too? BeanMusical Dec 2015 #186

We might have to go Old Yeller on it! artislife Dec 2015 #188

Attention Walk away: Did you not get the memo? Tommy2Tone Dec 2015 #31

Thank you! DownriverDem Dec 2015 #42

I am a proud Hillary supporter. Tommy2Tone Dec 2015 #45

Lolz.... artislife Dec 2015 #182

... senz Dec 2015 #196

I just can't help myself sometimes. I usually don't give a crap about... Walk away Dec 2015 #132

Unions are solidly behind Hillary workinclasszero Dec 2015 #50

And more than 70% of the Democrats in Congress and the Senate. George II Dec 2015 #56

But does she care that 16,000,000 American children live in poverty? rhett o rick Dec 2015 #160

+1 Absolutely. BeanMusical Dec 2015 #180

It's only a matter of TIME...nt SidDithers Dec 2015 #2

snark workinclasszero Dec 2015 #51

Settle down and have a riversedge Dec 2015 #3

Hell, even Bernie's cookies are more appetizing than Hil's. Fawke Em Dec 2015 #7

Now, those are cookies! Segami Dec 2015 #9

Mmmhmm I like the frosting on the fringes. Is there any fringe left? JonLeibowitz Dec 2015 #26

Making me want one!! Those cookies are adorable! Duval Dec 2015 #87

Props to Joshua! n/t bvf Dec 2015 #161

Adorable, isn't he? senz Dec 2015 #171

That's true. artislife Dec 2015 #183

THOSE ARE COOKIES!!! d_legendary1 Dec 2015 #222

Looks like those are a wee bit overdone... chervilant Dec 2015 #148

I am tempted to start an OP "Bernie hasn't won anything yet" cosmicone Dec 2015 #4

That's for sure! Oh wait...Time magazine internet poll Person of the Year! Walk away Dec 2015 #18

That's WillyT's thing redstateblues Dec 2015 #131

That message has a "do not purchase after" upaloopa Dec 2015 #5

You're right! Fawke Em Dec 2015 #8

Well I won't have to read your OP's after upaloopa Dec 2015 #16

Fawke Em's a good Democrat. Why insult her? senz Dec 2015 #63

Thanks, senz. I was also wondering. Duval Dec 2015 #92

I am not insulting her upaloopa Dec 2015 #99

She ain't the nominee yet, honey senz Dec 2015 #198

Winning the hearts and minds of the Bernie supporters. exhausted Dec 2015 #73

Aww, so new to DU and already so wise to our ways.... Hekate Dec 2015 #106

Ummm... Okay. But it's still over. Gman Dec 2015 #11

Don't give up on the human race so easily. senz Dec 2015 #67

It is over. You'll come to grips with that eventually. frylock Dec 2015 #137

And it's off to the Greatest Page with you! n/t CaliforniaPeggy Dec 2015 #12

Personally I don't think my opinion will change a single Sanders supporter. ismnotwasm Dec 2015 #13

I see you are evolving quite nicely, as you included 'yet' correctly in your OP subject line. riversedge Dec 2015 #14

Smugness is not an attractive trait Armstead Dec 2015 #35

It's all they've got nxylas Dec 2015 #113

Probably easier to do than overcoming senz Dec 2015 #200

AWESOME POST! 99Forever Dec 2015 #17

Bernie's message is 'compassionate, honest and trustworthy'..... Segami Dec 2015 #19

That was when...June? July? MADem Dec 2015 #46

And yet he's still packing 'em in. Amazing, isn't it? People love Bernie. senz Dec 2015 #75

Yes, that's it, exactly...those crowd sizes get smaller and smaller. MADem Dec 2015 #124

Depends on the venue. Some big, some medium sized, all enthusiastic. senz Dec 2015 #125

If it makes you feel better to believe that, you keep on keeping on. nt MADem Dec 2015 #141

Oh thank you, madam. senz Dec 2015 #162

Not madam, MADem (MA-Massachusetts/Dem-Democrat). nt MADem Dec 2015 #163

Oh, and all this time I thought that it was a superposition of MAD & Dem! (seriously) BeanMusical Dec 2015 #165

Well, I was a pretty Mad Dem from MA when Bush stole the election! nt MADem Dec 2015 #168

Oh, how cool. I've loved my visits to Massachusetts. senz Dec 2015 #166

There are, but Hillary owns this state. nt MADem Dec 2015 #167

OMG I knew she was wealthy, but this is amazing. senz Dec 2015 #170

She didn't buy it--it was a gift from the voters! nt MADem Dec 2015 #172

Ah, then Goldman Sachs bought it... senz Dec 2015 #174

No, no--a gift from the Democratic voters who have supported MADem Dec 2015 #175

Well I hope you're wrong, partly for personal reasons. senz Dec 2015 #187

Will you throw Warren under the bus when she endorses HRC? MADem Dec 2015 #190

Well, we both know she disagrees with Hillary senz Dec 2015 #192

OK. Hold fast to that if you want. MADem Dec 2015 #193

Well I'm sure she would be welcome in the Sanders administration senz Dec 2015 #194

Well, Sanders has teamed up with DWS, himself, so I think maybe you need to pull her out from under MADem Dec 2015 #197

Yes, I know he's pragmatic senz Dec 2015 #199

Well, under a subway car is in poor taste. MADem Dec 2015 #206

Oh I could tell you a tragic and shocking story senz Dec 2015 #218

Such an event happened quite recently in the city of Boston. MADem Dec 2015 #224

Hillary Clinton's gender is unrelated to our criticisms of her. senz Dec 2015 #231

Big deal? I'd wager it would be a "YUUUUUUUUUUGE" world-ending, Oh-The-Huge-Manatee "deal" MADem Dec 2015 #232

Elizabeth Warren represents Massachusetts brilliantly in the Senate DFW Dec 2015 #210

Yeah, I thought I'd heard something like that. senz Dec 2015 #220

When you've heard her talk ten feet in front of you, all doubt is erased! DFW Dec 2015 #223

But, Bernie can't win! 99th_Monkey Dec 2015 #21

That graphic says it all. I bet Robin goes home and donates to Hillary! Walk away Dec 2015 #24

Really. Who knew that insulting, berating, denigrating and beating on people wouldn't draw them to MADem Dec 2015 #48

I sure hope Robin doesn't have a Facebook account! Walk away Dec 2015 #52

Indeed! People will write "angry things" on his "wall!" MADem Dec 2015 #61

Robin is not going to "go rogue" for Hillary 99th_Monkey Dec 2015 #118

Even after the B Man slaps him silly and yells at him to go vote for Bernie? Walk away Dec 2015 #130

That graphic says it all. AlbertCat Dec 2015 #152

You are right, I'm afraid. BeanMusical Dec 2015 #185

I wish this was a thread all by itself - I would like to add it jwirr Dec 2015 #84

Four out of five scientists DaveT Dec 2015 #25

Hello? DownriverDem Dec 2015 #40

Well if it were Fidel I might consider it. senz Dec 2015 #191

Really? blue neen Dec 2015 #207

Joking. senz Dec 2015 #219

HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!! WillyT Dec 2015 #27

They counted their chickens before they hatched in 2008. Cheap_Trick Dec 2015 #28

2008 isn't 2015/16 DownriverDem Dec 2015 #37

This is not a game... Punkingal Dec 2015 #44

Thank you, Punkingal! And TPP and the other bad "trade" deals destroy our future. Bernie stands Dont call me Shirley Dec 2015 #101

you're welcome...it is a game to some people, though Punkingal Dec 2015 #112

Life is to be lived. Games are to be played. But people's lives are not a game. Bernie 2016. Dont call me Shirley Dec 2015 #114

agree..love Bernie Punkingal Dec 2015 #134

I love botha youse guys senz Dec 2015 #201

thanks... Punkingal Dec 2015 #217

You have a lot to say senz Dec 2015 #221

thank u...i will Punkingal Dec 2015 #226

Hillary has Obama's mailing lists, and that is the only connection to his 2008 campaign.. frylock Dec 2015 #138

Thank Faux pas Dec 2015 #29

No she hasn't but DownriverDem Dec 2015 #32

TPP, Glass-Steagall, "cut it out" bank reform - it is our jwirr Dec 2015 #90

Thanks, DownriverDem. See you at the voter reg table next year. Hekate Dec 2015 #108

Nice. That strawman never had a chance nt firebrand80 Dec 2015 #33

Neither has Bernie. Nor Trump, nor Cruz. You point being? (nt) question everything Dec 2015 #34

Thanks for showing up instead of giving up, Senator Sanders! merrily Dec 2015 #36

Bernie will help Hillary DownriverDem Dec 2015 #38

Belated welcome to DU. Don't be a dink. merrily Dec 2015 #62

She's won the endorsement of hundreds of super delegates.... MADem Dec 2015 #39

the supers will follow the will of the people restorefreedom Dec 2015 #47

The supers will follow their hearts and their endorsements. MADem Dec 2015 #57

the problem will solve itself restorefreedom Dec 2015 #69

I know Clinton will win Super Tuesday. Not believe. Know. MADem Dec 2015 #71

i did read the article. it actually cements my support of bernie restorefreedom Dec 2015 #83

How nice! nt MADem Dec 2015 #97

see? we are both happy.. all is well :) nt restorefreedom Dec 2015 #98

Oh the fix is in? Like Rove "knew" Mitt would win in 2012? senz Dec 2015 #85

sounds like an 08 redux....nt restorefreedom Dec 2015 #91

Yep--the fix is in with the people who actually go to the polls. nt MADem Dec 2015 #93

if the people actually get to decide, restorefreedom Dec 2015 #96

The people will get to decide. The ones who are actually registered to vote. MADem Dec 2015 #102

thats all i want. a fair election where the results are respected. restorefreedom Dec 2015 #104

Like they did in 8. Followed their hearts to the better candidate when it was all said and done. Ed Suspicious Dec 2015 #80

they can follow their hearts all they want until the votes come in restorefreedom Dec 2015 #88

Yeah, sure. For that to be reality, Sanders would have to "be" Obama. And he's no Obama. MADem Dec 2015 #89

you are absolutely correct 1000%. bernie is NOT obama restorefreedom Dec 2015 #94

You can't have it both ways, no matter how hard you try. MADem Dec 2015 #100

i agree. but as the votes go, so will the supers restorefreedom Dec 2015 #103

I guess you didn't read that link too well. MADem Dec 2015 #107

i read it just fine, i just disagree with it restorefreedom Dec 2015 #110

It's not going to happen in the way you describe. MADem Dec 2015 #111

i am not at all worried about bernie and putin restorefreedom Dec 2015 #116

You shouldn't be--the closest Sanders will get to Putin is if he's invited to attend a state dinner MADem Dec 2015 #117

lol!! you just made my afternoon, MADem! restorefreedom Dec 2015 #121

This is better still.... MADem Dec 2015 #122

love it! i think every thread restorefreedom Dec 2015 #123

Obama - The Preeminent Politician Ed Suspicious Dec 2015 #119

Most Democrats agree he has been a fantastic POTUS. MADem Dec 2015 #120

He's ok. He's no Bernie when it comes to lining up with what I believe in. Ed Suspicious Dec 2015 #126

I think the majority of Democrats like him just fine. I think he'll go down in history MADem Dec 2015 #128

This Democrat likes him just fine, anyway DFW Dec 2015 #211

The "supers" will do whatever they think is in their own best interests dflprincess Dec 2015 #151

You maybe don't understand that the "supers" don't HAVE to "follow" anyone? MADem Dec 2015 #155

Yes, I do remember why they came up with the "super" delegates dflprincess Dec 2015 #158

No--not "the hacks." THE VOTERS. MADem Dec 2015 #159

Absolutley love the Sanders quote in the image. nt. NCTraveler Dec 2015 #49

TRUTH: "Not a single vote has been cast. This fight is not over, it's just begun" senz Dec 2015 #53

Hillary Clinton hasn't won anything yet? Ha! Nitram Dec 2015 #54

As I always say: Hillary is toast! Helen Borg Dec 2015 #59

Oh, but she will. She will. MineralMan Dec 2015 #64

Gosh, I hope pesky voting beforehand doesn't inconvenience the planned coronation. <sarcasm> AtomicKitten Dec 2015 #65

I want to see............................... turbinetree Dec 2015 #68

But she's well on her way! NurseJackie Dec 2015 #70

Just like 2008! senz Dec 2015 #79

LOL!! NurseJackie Dec 2015 #105

Corporate money and institutional backing are tremendous advantages... modestybl Dec 2015 #74

Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2015 #76

I agree: Hillary Clinton hasn't won anything yet... brooklynite Dec 2015 #78

Here is why I am voting for Bernie: chervilant Dec 2015 #81

Beautiful post, chervilant. senz Dec 2015 #129

+1000 Segami Dec 2015 #142

A lot of people say he channels FDR Art_from_Ark Dec 2015 #144

Well, I have to agree chervilant Dec 2015 #145

Yeah, NW Arkansas has become so blood-red, it's scary Art_from_Ark Dec 2015 #146

Sad, isn't it? chervilant Dec 2015 #147

I don't think I could live in the Harrison area Art_from_Ark Dec 2015 #149

Ask not what your country can do for you — ask what you can do for your country BlueStateLib Dec 2015 #208

NO ONE has won ANYTHING yet Hekate Dec 2015 #95

Ha ha ha senz Dec 2015 #127

Oooops.. you're irritating them with your reality check. Let's hope that damn CAp LOck is not Cha Dec 2015 #202

I figured I'd participate in the SPIRIT of collegiality and SUCH.... Hekate Dec 2015 #203

Exactly Rebkeh Dec 2015 #115

She certainly hasn't won my vote. Jester Messiah Dec 2015 #133

It is better to show up than to give up! PatrickforO Dec 2015 #135

Hillary won a Grammy!!! Sancho Dec 2015 #139

Same Crap They Pulled in 2012 billhicks76 Dec 2015 #143

Hill is in for one, big, fat surprise when voting begins. SoapBox Dec 2015 #150

WORD mahina Dec 2015 #153

Do they sit there hitting refresh all friggin day? Fed up in NJ Dec 2015 #157

They have an app....nt artislife Dec 2015 #184

Maybe not, but . . . Major Hogwash Dec 2015 #204

K&R "Remember who owns the MSM" raouldukelives Dec 2015 #214

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