2016 Postmortem

Bubzer

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66. A label doesn't make you a dem. Actions do... and on that scale, she's a conservative.

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Bernie Sanders Has Stuck To The Same Message For 40 Years. hillary?...not so much. [View all] Bubzer Dec 2015 OP

On guns? nt LexVegas Dec 2015 #1

Hillary Clinton on the eve of the PA primary 2008 UglyGreed Dec 2015 #8

+1 Bubzer Dec 2015 #11

Hillary IS correct on this position: bvar22 Dec 2015 #21

Yup but Bernie was UglyGreed Dec 2015 #22

Yeah. I know. bvar22 Dec 2015 #23

Its smart to change position with new information:Times change lewebley3 Dec 2015 #45

Here you go, I fixed it for you. Bubzer Dec 2015 #51

If Hillary was serving herself: She would not be a Dem lewebley3 Dec 2015 #65

A label doesn't make you a dem. Actions do... and on that scale, she's a conservative. Bubzer Dec 2015 #66

Hillary's Dem loyalty over 30 years: cannot be called a label: her work is on the table lewebley3 Dec 2015 #87

You're right... her work is on the table. Her work in supporting the TPP, and working with banks. Bubzer Dec 2015 #88

Obama is for TTP: Hillary is not: The Unions are backing Hillary: lewebley3 Dec 2015 #89

She called it the 'Gold standard' AgingAmerican Dec 2015 #97

And voiced support for it 45 times! Bubzer Dec 2015 #102

Maybe it was when she looked at it: TTP has been worked on for years lewebley3 Dec 2015 #106

oy vey Phlem Dec 2015 #101

Hillary values of serving the country the best she can never changes. AlbertCat Dec 2015 #67

Hillary's not wishy washy about being a Dem: lewebley3 Dec 2015 #69

will sign almost anything the Dem's can get the votes for. AlbertCat Dec 2015 #77

If Dem's have the votes: they have popular support for whatever they are doing lewebley3 Dec 2015 #86

LMAO! stevenleser Dec 2015 #99

Much could be said about sticking to the same message liberal N proud Dec 2015 #2

He's right on the issues, is another...and is the best of the bunch. Bubzer Dec 2015 #5

Sanders can take positions for a long time: He is rep only lewebley3 Dec 2015 #48

Probably still uses a Texas Instruments calculator. George II Dec 2015 #18

TI is STILL the standard for high-end graphing calculators. Bubzer Dec 2015 #34

I think I am, so that's a matter of opinion. Thank you. George II Dec 2015 #46

I am thinking sliderule liberal N proud Dec 2015 #44

This is the guy who is making good use of the latest Internet applications and social media Art_from_Ark Dec 2015 #98

I'm good with the slide rule analogy. Bubzer Dec 2015 #103

Robert Goddard might have used a slide rule Art_from_Ark Dec 2015 #107

sticking with his values is another daybranch Dec 2015 #20

His stances reflect his values. Good values do not need to be changed. JDPriestly Dec 2015 #64

The world evolves, we must also evolve liberal N proud Dec 2015 #68

Basic values like honesty, fairness, sharing, families, the basic values we all share JDPriestly Dec 2015 #70

Yes, we all know his message by heart now. KMOD Dec 2015 #3

narrow my butt Robbins Dec 2015 #4

Exactly! +1 Bubzer Dec 2015 #7

Bernie is a tireless advocate and he does focus on one thing. If he cant be prez, he would randys1 Dec 2015 #27

He is a powerful voice in the Senate, KMOD Dec 2015 #63

Any of us old enough most likely has been upaloopa Dec 2015 #6

Evolve is just another word for political expediency and lack of good judgment. Bubzer Dec 2015 #10

No it is not. upaloopa Dec 2015 #13

Sorry to disapoint, but it means exactly what I said it means in this context. Bubzer Dec 2015 #15

Your not disappointing me at all upaloopa Dec 2015 #16

Well, Bernie does have the moral high ground, particularly in contrast to hillary. Bubzer Dec 2015 #17

Like I said I don't put any stock in what Bernie supporters upaloopa Dec 2015 #29

It may be YOUR place to wait. I'll determine what my place is. Bubzer Dec 2015 #38

We Bernie people do feel we are on high ground daybranch Dec 2015 #19

Please go tell somebody who cares upaloopa Dec 2015 #30

Well said. Juicy_Bellows Dec 2015 #61

+1 n/t 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #32

Every time Clinton has "evolved," her position moves towards one already held by Sanders Scootaloo Dec 2015 #76

Someone please post the H Weathervane gif - it is so totally appropriate for her. kath Dec 2015 #9

If you believe in evolution cosmicone Dec 2015 #12

You dont quite understand how evolution works. Many creatures evolve...Most of them don't survive. Bubzer Dec 2015 #25

Thanks for helping me understand evolution cosmicone Dec 2015 #31

You're welcome! Bubzer Dec 2015 #39

I am 68 years old now and comradebillyboy Dec 2015 #14

So what issues would you suggest Sen Sanders needs to change on? frylock Dec 2015 #26

Oh, so you're running for office? No? Then I guess you dont need to be held to that higher standard. Bubzer Dec 2015 #40

I think it's good for leaders to be adaptable, not comradebillyboy Dec 2015 #83

Oh I like a willingness to compromise and be adaptable. If I didn't, I wouldn't like Bernie. Bubzer Dec 2015 #85

Me too, 68yo. And yes I also "triangulate" to find the optimal solution erronis Dec 2015 #49

2015-2012 = 3 MisterP Dec 2015 #82

I'm very impressed with your ability to do comradebillyboy Dec 2015 #104

3 is less than 40 MisterP Dec 2015 #105

Aww SHIT, I was gonna do a thread about this Bernie story but WITHOUT THE SNARK randys1 Dec 2015 #24

I regret nothing. The snark is well deserved. Bubzer Dec 2015 #41

Hillary is fast on her feet, Sanders not so much, sort of stuck in cement and unable to move from Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #28

But mostly, we need a president that can work with others ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #35

Very well said, thanks. Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #37

As I have said, before ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #47

No clue where your assumptions come from. merrily Dec 2015 #57

I have told you, numerous times, I don't support HRC ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #74

Your reply has absolutely nothing to do with your post 35 or my reply 57 to your 35. merrily Dec 2015 #75

You have a short and selective memory. 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #81

Au contraire, but it's your replies to me that have been very selective. merrily Dec 2015 #84

I remember 1Strong! s statements to that effect quite clearly. okasha Dec 2015 #90

Really? You remember his telling me that many times? Because that is his claim, telling me merrily Dec 2015 #91

Really, I remember. okasha Dec 2015 #92

So, you don't remember his telling me once, let alone many times. I didn't think so. merrily Dec 2015 #94

nonsense ibegurpard Dec 2015 #33

/\/\This/\/\ 99Forever Dec 2015 #42

Sure. Consistently a flip-flopper. Bubzer Dec 2015 #43

Ding Ding Ding! TIME TO PANIC Dec 2015 #53

K&R nt Live and Learn Dec 2015 #36

Thank goodness everyone doesn't stick to the same message for 40 years ... LannyDeVaney Dec 2015 #50

Thank goodness SOMONE sticks to the same message for 40 years, when its right! Bubzer Dec 2015 #55

I really hope she doesn't get elected. optimist.spencer Dec 2015 #52

Bernie is so last Tuesday HassleCat Dec 2015 #54

+1 Bubzer Dec 2015 #62

K & R ! TIME TO PANIC Dec 2015 #56

I thought she was opposed to gay marriage until 2013 xynthee Dec 2015 #58

K & R AzDar Dec 2015 #59

What kind of President would Hillary be? PoliticalMalcontent Dec 2015 #60

A weathervane - a poll-driven disaster. reformist2 Dec 2015 #71

If she becomes president there's nothing binding her to polls (except re-election). PoliticalMalcontent Dec 2015 #72

But he never bothered running for President before R B Garr Dec 2015 #73

Not everyone has the desire or ego to want to run for President. Bernie didn't want to be President. Live and Learn Dec 2015 #78

So his desire to be President has EVOLVED. R B Garr Dec 2015 #79

Not at all. He feels he has no choice. nt Live and Learn Dec 2015 #80

lol moobu2 Dec 2015 #93

Great post! Definitely Bookmarking! in_cog_ni_to Dec 2015 #95

kick! n/t in_cog_ni_to Dec 2015 #96

Not changing positions in 40 years makes one an anachronism in my book. stevenleser Dec 2015 #100