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Drunken Irishman

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21. Who said any of the southern states were in the bag?
Mon Feb 6, 2012, 05:31 PM
Feb 2012

But, since you asked, I think Obama has a strong shot of taking Virginia, North Carolina and Florida - or at least one of those states.

Regardless, the national polls point to Obama winning in an electoral landslide. If he wins the national popular vote by six points in November, his path to victory will mirror 2008. You're not going to trounce in the popular vote like that and lose the election. Even Al Gore, who won the popular vote, but lost the electoral college, still only managed to beat Bush by less than a percentage point (.5 to be exact) and his national victory was only 544,000 votes.

That's why national polls matter. If you're winning by six nationally, you're probably taking a couple of those southern states and most every swing state. Unless Obama racks 70-80% of the vote in states like California or New York, it's almost impossible for Obama to lose in '12 with a popular vote exceeding 5%.

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This is either February 1980 or February 1996 bluestateguy Feb 2012 #1
More like February 1984 denem Feb 2012 #3
Good point... Drunken Irishman Feb 2012 #6
"It's all about the direction" Spot on, denem Feb 2012 #8
If we average 150,000 jobs a month until election day, he'll be golden... Drunken Irishman Feb 2012 #11
I hear ya'... Drunken Irishman Feb 2012 #4
1984. denem Feb 2012 #5
One thing that damaged Jimmy Carter BADLY was... MarianJack Feb 2012 #7
Heh. The GOP is getting a taste of "just how malignant party disunity can be" denem Feb 2012 #10
Yep! MarianJack Feb 2012 #12
This is why Obama will win reelection Cali_Democrat Feb 2012 #2
Yes, and we need to keep shouting Romney's negatives from the rooftops. Denninmi Feb 2012 #16
I'd say that the conditions are like 1984,... MarianJack Feb 2012 #9
Do these polls take in the electoral college votes, because if they don't they are meaningless /nt still_one Feb 2012 #13
Why are they meaningless? Drunken Irishman Feb 2012 #14
Because of nixon's southern strategy. What southern states do you think are in the bag for Obama? still_one Feb 2012 #20
Who said any of the southern states were in the bag? Drunken Irishman Feb 2012 #21
I just read this on Yahoo davidpdx Feb 2012 #15
One way this is different from 1980 Arneoker Feb 2012 #17
Obama Robbins Feb 2012 #18
Bias Johnny2X2X Feb 2012 #19
k&DUrec JTFrog Feb 2012 #22
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