2016 Postmortem

Divernan

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78. What about her budgeting disasters?

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 01:51 AM

Dec 2015

Overspent her campaign budget by $12 MILLION DOLLARS IN 2008. And then it took HRC 5 years to pay off the debt, mainly by sending Bill out scrambling for donations.

Yup! she went $ Twelve Million in the hole to vendors in her last campaign. Let's hope everyone's smart enough to demand payment in advance this time around.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/22/hillary-clinton-campaign-debt_n_2530528.html
Hillary Clinton Campaign Debt From 2008 Retired

Now picture her committing the US to extended/new land wars. Given her inability to admit failure or error, she'll spend this country into the poorhouse. It will be like the Soviet Union and Afghanistan.

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It's offensive to me when Hillary Clinton is named as a fierce advocate for LGBT equality [View all] MannyGoldstein Dec 2015 OP

A big, fat K&R! CaliforniaPeggy Dec 2015 #1

Times change Tommy2Tone Dec 2015 #2

In general, the thing that concerns me most about politicians who adopt positions only after it's winter is coming Dec 2015 #3

+ 1,000,000,000 - What You Said !!! WillyT Dec 2015 #5

no MisterP Dec 2015 #21

I get tired of people and their 'evolutions'. She and Bill were hard roguevalley Dec 2015 #51

She announced for it AFTER Portman did. His kid came out irisblue Dec 2015 #4

It was in 2013 when republican Rob Portman came out in support of gay marrage Autumn Dec 2015 #8

Portman on 3/15/13. HRC on 3/20/15. She was earlier on irisblue Dec 2015 #41

I was shocked that a republican would do what he did. Autumn Dec 2015 #47

almost an earthquake in Rep circles in Ohio irisblue Dec 2015 #48

I am honored to give you your hide. here it is. pangaia Dec 2015 #6

Every thing she does madokie Dec 2015 #7

What about her budgeting disasters? Divernan Dec 2015 #78

My apologies. KMOD Dec 2015 #9

What the Hell does that mess even mean in the context of the OP? MannyGoldstein Dec 2015 #12

Post removed Post removed Dec 2015 #14

So only LGBT people can feel that LGBT people should be granted human rights? MannyGoldstein Dec 2015 #16

Someone seems to feel that only gays can care about gays. Stupid, stupid, stupid. Scuba Dec 2015 #19

A straight person at that. Autumn Dec 2015 #22

Stupid doesn't explain it. malokvale77 Dec 2015 #74

WTF... malokvale77 Dec 2015 #68

The good news is that was the 5th hide - no posts from him/her Divernan Dec 2015 #85

They can still PM. malokvale77 Dec 2015 #90

Ooh. kath Dec 2015 #104

KMOD has many posts in the clinton cave panader0 Dec 2015 #147

Action NCTraveler Dec 2015 #10

So you're claiming that my OP is wrong? MannyGoldstein Dec 2015 #13

I did no such thing. NCTraveler Dec 2015 #18

Being an advocate today is like MannyGoldstein Dec 2015 #23

Wow. Have at it. NCTraveler Dec 2015 #26

Post removed Post removed Dec 2015 #61

There's such a thing as too little too late marym625 Dec 2015 #116

+1 merrily Dec 2015 #133

She is ONLY for LGBT rights today because Cassiopeia Dec 2015 #25

She is one of the loudest and... NCTraveler Dec 2015 #29

And the least believable. Cassiopeia Dec 2015 #30

Read my link above. NCTraveler Dec 2015 #31

I certainly agree... malokvale77 Dec 2015 #92

She's never been fierce and loud in defense of anything. senz Dec 2015 #50

Right. Scripted only after polling focus groups which tell her which script to recite. in_cog_ni_to Dec 2015 #64

Yep. I get the impression senz Dec 2015 #71

Why else would DWS and the Party Leadership be hiding Hillary from debates? bvar22 Dec 2015 #142

Today? malokvale77 Dec 2015 #81

If you actually read my posts... NCTraveler Dec 2015 #124

And how quickly will that change? mindwalker_i Dec 2015 #86

Bernie may not have been as firm... Chitown Kev Dec 2015 #65

Except he was zalinda Dec 2015 #82

Read what I said very, very carefully Chitown Kev Dec 2015 #87

Sanders also sought the endorsements of people who have been unfriendly to the gay community. MADem Dec 2015 #109

And meanwhile, in 2008 Bernie still considered same sex marriage to be a states rights issue. n/t pnwmom Dec 2015 #56

See post #82 eom zalinda Dec 2015 #84

I've read it. So what? He still didn't support full marriage equality till a few years pnwmom Dec 2015 #89

FFS... malokvale77 Dec 2015 #94

Wrong. He said he wasn't going to introduce a bill calling for the Federal government pnwmom Dec 2015 #95

Of course he did, here is the transcript from that video: beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #96

Yes, yes, yes. malokvale77 Dec 2015 #102

Oh I'm done here, there's no talking to some people. beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #107

She still opposed SSM until after a poll had 58% supporting SSM in 2013 jfern Dec 2015 #11

I think Clinton is entirely too poll-driven to deserve the presidency. PatrickforO Dec 2015 #15

That video is an example of sanctimonious posturing at its finest. CharlotteVale Dec 2015 #17

And she sounds just as sanctimonious saying the exact opposite... Ino Dec 2015 #33

LOL...her DNA flip flops too! CharlotteVale Dec 2015 #34

What does that even mean? blue neen Dec 2015 #113

When somebody calls "the marriage bond" between a CharlotteVale Dec 2015 #117

Defending the Republican position here? blue neen Dec 2015 #119

Crickets. blue neen Dec 2015 #122

Well, you're defending Hillary's sacred bond bull crap. If CharlotteVale Dec 2015 #125

Please use the exact words where I defended "Hillary's sacred bond bull crap". blue neen Dec 2015 #128

YouGH K&R! MrMickeysMom Dec 2015 #20

First of all, who ever said that Hillary Clinton WAS a "fierce advocate" Chitown Kev Dec 2015 #24

Did I use "fierce advocate' in quotes? I don't see it. Do you? MannyGoldstein Dec 2015 #28

It refers very specifically to a phrase that Candidate Obama uttered Chitown Kev Dec 2015 #32

"outside of caucusing with them and endorsing Dem presidential candidates" Autumn Dec 2015 #36

So Obama somehow has an exclusive on the (common) phrase 'fierce advocate' MannyGoldstein Dec 2015 #37

no...but Hillary Clinton has never made this claim Chitown Kev Dec 2015 #40

So you understood "when Hillary Clinton is named as " to mean "when Hillary claims she is"? MannyGoldstein Dec 2015 #42

Did Hillary name herself that way? Chitown Kev Dec 2015 #49

Whoa... malokvale77 Dec 2015 #97

Because it turns issues that directly affect Chitown Kev Dec 2015 #100

Can't say for sure, but I doubt marym625 is more concerned with Sanders than with your rights. merrily Dec 2015 #132

Spot on. MannyGoldstein Dec 2015 #137

This message was self-deleted by its author merrily Dec 2015 #138

I am not offended, she has been an advocate for LGBT for a long time. Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #27

A little over two years Dragonfli Dec 2015 #59

I guess you don't know all of Hillary's positions for two decades Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #70

Well you clearly do not, your many posts give you away, I find you to be the least informed poster Dragonfli Dec 2015 #75

Oh, yea Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #77

I agree with Dragonfli... malokvale77 Dec 2015 #99

Attacking me does not change the truth, it only reflects on you. Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #126

Well Manny, things that Bernie did decades ago simply do not matter. cui bono Dec 2015 #35

Sez you DaveT Dec 2015 #44

In 2008 he still thought same sex marriage was a states' rights issue. pnwmom Dec 2015 #58

Were you offended in 2006 when Bernie opposed marriage equality in VT? BainsBane Dec 2015 #38

None of those claim he opposed marriage equality in 2006 MannyGoldstein Dec 2015 #39

To be fair: He may have (personally) supported marriage equality in VT...he may have opposed it... Chitown Kev Dec 2015 #52

Do you have proof he opposed marriage equality? beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #55

Biden is the hero Protalker Dec 2015 #43

That is the disagreement between us DaveT Dec 2015 #45

Joe Biden...the man who voted for DOMA? Chitown Kev Dec 2015 #54

He voted for DOMA in 1996. beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #60

Thnak you, bmus Chitown Kev Dec 2015 #67

Honestly I don't think Obama ever really opposed it. beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #72

Biden announced for marriage equality 5/6/12. irisblue Dec 2015 #76

1996, you can look that one up Chitown Kev Dec 2015 #83

this is akin to Trump being Anti Abortion now after being Pro Choice PatrynXX Dec 2015 #46

Links please. I think she was a few years behind Bernie, but ahead of the general curve. nt pnwmom Dec 2015 #53

Here's one but I have more if you need them: beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #57

Hah... malokvale77 Dec 2015 #62

Opportunism, plain and simple. Indepatriot Dec 2015 #63

Tell like it is, Manny. Duppers Dec 2015 #66

Honestly, i prefer a politician who is willing to change their positions Midnight Writer Dec 2015 #69

That is a reasonable point DaveT Dec 2015 #79

I would prefer the politician who always had the correct position... Ino Dec 2015 #80

Who among us has "been on the right side all along"? Midnight Writer Dec 2015 #91

Bernie Sanders Ino Dec 2015 #103

She is an embarrassment, but not as much as Doctor_J Dec 2015 #73

And I am offended when folks try to stifle free speech by saying "It offends me!" McCamy Taylor Dec 2015 #88

distortions and lies revulse honest people. reddread Dec 2015 #127

So you want to stop my free speech, MannyGoldstein Dec 2015 #131

Offends me too. zentrum Dec 2015 #93

BINGO reddread Dec 2015 #139

Agreed 100% Fearless Dec 2015 #98

her choices and positions have been driven by her agenda olddots Dec 2015 #101

She's smart enough to not take endorsements from gay bashers MADem Dec 2015 #105

Hillary took an endorsement from EMILY's List, they love anti-lgbt/choice Christian bigots: beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #111

Because "blogspots" are reliable sources of information. Please. nt MADem Dec 2015 #115

Posted without comment: NuclearDem Dec 2015 #106

OMG, THANK YOU. I was going to post about Reagan R B Garr Dec 2015 #108

ME TOO. betsuni Dec 2015 #112

Thank you. Starry Messenger Dec 2015 #134

It's too bad you weren't offended when you voted for Reagan zappaman Dec 2015 #110

I voted for Reagan in 1980. A difference between you and me is MannyGoldstein Dec 2015 #120

In 1980 I voted for Reagan despite his ignoring AIDS, which MannyGoldstein Dec 2015 #123

It is offensive to me that you post such crap. riversedge Dec 2015 #114

LOL! MannyGoldstein Dec 2015 #121

She has no moral compass emsimon33 Dec 2015 #118

Yup, what you said Boomer Dec 2015 #129

You nailed her M.O. perfectly... Hepburn Dec 2015 #140

She is no fierce advocate. Never has been. bigwillq Dec 2015 #130

That is just plain wrong. bvar22 Dec 2015 #143

I'm gay and I agree with you. She was an opportunist with LGBT issues. Not a leader/champion. nt stillwaiting Dec 2015 #135

..... bigwillq Dec 2015 #145

Holy shit, the Tag-Team of Superiority (TTS, patent pending) strikes again! randome Dec 2015 #136

What's new? Renew Deal Dec 2015 #141

As an LGBT person, I'm horrified at what I have discovered about Hillary's Zorra Dec 2015 #144

K&R..... daleanime Dec 2015 #146

Kick and R BeanMusical Dec 2015 #148