2016 Postmortem

malokvale77

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97. Whoa...

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 02:41 AM

Dec 2015

if you re not LGBT or closely related or friends with an LGBT person, then it is not your place to be offended.

First of all, who isn't?

Second of all, why can't a person be offended by anyone's rights being denied.

Who are you to tell anyone their "place" to be offended

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It's offensive to me when Hillary Clinton is named as a fierce advocate for LGBT equality [View all] MannyGoldstein Dec 2015 OP

A big, fat K&R! CaliforniaPeggy Dec 2015 #1

Times change Tommy2Tone Dec 2015 #2

In general, the thing that concerns me most about politicians who adopt positions only after it's winter is coming Dec 2015 #3

+ 1,000,000,000 - What You Said !!! WillyT Dec 2015 #5

no MisterP Dec 2015 #21

I get tired of people and their 'evolutions'. She and Bill were hard roguevalley Dec 2015 #51

She announced for it AFTER Portman did. His kid came out irisblue Dec 2015 #4

It was in 2013 when republican Rob Portman came out in support of gay marrage Autumn Dec 2015 #8

Portman on 3/15/13. HRC on 3/20/15. She was earlier on irisblue Dec 2015 #41

I was shocked that a republican would do what he did. Autumn Dec 2015 #47

almost an earthquake in Rep circles in Ohio irisblue Dec 2015 #48

I am honored to give you your hide. here it is. pangaia Dec 2015 #6

Every thing she does madokie Dec 2015 #7

What about her budgeting disasters? Divernan Dec 2015 #78

My apologies. KMOD Dec 2015 #9

What the Hell does that mess even mean in the context of the OP? MannyGoldstein Dec 2015 #12

Post removed Post removed Dec 2015 #14

So only LGBT people can feel that LGBT people should be granted human rights? MannyGoldstein Dec 2015 #16

Someone seems to feel that only gays can care about gays. Stupid, stupid, stupid. Scuba Dec 2015 #19

A straight person at that. Autumn Dec 2015 #22

Stupid doesn't explain it. malokvale77 Dec 2015 #74

WTF... malokvale77 Dec 2015 #68

The good news is that was the 5th hide - no posts from him/her Divernan Dec 2015 #85

They can still PM. malokvale77 Dec 2015 #90

Ooh. kath Dec 2015 #104

KMOD has many posts in the clinton cave panader0 Dec 2015 #147

Action NCTraveler Dec 2015 #10

So you're claiming that my OP is wrong? MannyGoldstein Dec 2015 #13

I did no such thing. NCTraveler Dec 2015 #18

Being an advocate today is like MannyGoldstein Dec 2015 #23

Wow. Have at it. NCTraveler Dec 2015 #26

Post removed Post removed Dec 2015 #61

There's such a thing as too little too late marym625 Dec 2015 #116

+1 merrily Dec 2015 #133

She is ONLY for LGBT rights today because Cassiopeia Dec 2015 #25

She is one of the loudest and... NCTraveler Dec 2015 #29

And the least believable. Cassiopeia Dec 2015 #30

Read my link above. NCTraveler Dec 2015 #31

I certainly agree... malokvale77 Dec 2015 #92

She's never been fierce and loud in defense of anything. senz Dec 2015 #50

Right. Scripted only after polling focus groups which tell her which script to recite. in_cog_ni_to Dec 2015 #64

Yep. I get the impression senz Dec 2015 #71

Why else would DWS and the Party Leadership be hiding Hillary from debates? bvar22 Dec 2015 #142

Today? malokvale77 Dec 2015 #81

If you actually read my posts... NCTraveler Dec 2015 #124

And how quickly will that change? mindwalker_i Dec 2015 #86

Bernie may not have been as firm... Chitown Kev Dec 2015 #65

Except he was zalinda Dec 2015 #82

Read what I said very, very carefully Chitown Kev Dec 2015 #87

Sanders also sought the endorsements of people who have been unfriendly to the gay community. MADem Dec 2015 #109

And meanwhile, in 2008 Bernie still considered same sex marriage to be a states rights issue. n/t pnwmom Dec 2015 #56

See post #82 eom zalinda Dec 2015 #84

I've read it. So what? He still didn't support full marriage equality till a few years pnwmom Dec 2015 #89

FFS... malokvale77 Dec 2015 #94

Wrong. He said he wasn't going to introduce a bill calling for the Federal government pnwmom Dec 2015 #95

Of course he did, here is the transcript from that video: beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #96

Yes, yes, yes. malokvale77 Dec 2015 #102

Oh I'm done here, there's no talking to some people. beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #107

She still opposed SSM until after a poll had 58% supporting SSM in 2013 jfern Dec 2015 #11

I think Clinton is entirely too poll-driven to deserve the presidency. PatrickforO Dec 2015 #15

That video is an example of sanctimonious posturing at its finest. CharlotteVale Dec 2015 #17

And she sounds just as sanctimonious saying the exact opposite... Ino Dec 2015 #33

LOL...her DNA flip flops too! CharlotteVale Dec 2015 #34

What does that even mean? blue neen Dec 2015 #113

When somebody calls "the marriage bond" between a CharlotteVale Dec 2015 #117

Defending the Republican position here? blue neen Dec 2015 #119

Crickets. blue neen Dec 2015 #122

Well, you're defending Hillary's sacred bond bull crap. If CharlotteVale Dec 2015 #125

Please use the exact words where I defended "Hillary's sacred bond bull crap". blue neen Dec 2015 #128

YouGH K&R! MrMickeysMom Dec 2015 #20

First of all, who ever said that Hillary Clinton WAS a "fierce advocate" Chitown Kev Dec 2015 #24

Did I use "fierce advocate' in quotes? I don't see it. Do you? MannyGoldstein Dec 2015 #28

It refers very specifically to a phrase that Candidate Obama uttered Chitown Kev Dec 2015 #32

"outside of caucusing with them and endorsing Dem presidential candidates" Autumn Dec 2015 #36

So Obama somehow has an exclusive on the (common) phrase 'fierce advocate' MannyGoldstein Dec 2015 #37

no...but Hillary Clinton has never made this claim Chitown Kev Dec 2015 #40

So you understood "when Hillary Clinton is named as " to mean "when Hillary claims she is"? MannyGoldstein Dec 2015 #42

Did Hillary name herself that way? Chitown Kev Dec 2015 #49

Whoa... malokvale77 Dec 2015 #97

Because it turns issues that directly affect Chitown Kev Dec 2015 #100

Can't say for sure, but I doubt marym625 is more concerned with Sanders than with your rights. merrily Dec 2015 #132

Spot on. MannyGoldstein Dec 2015 #137

This message was self-deleted by its author merrily Dec 2015 #138

I am not offended, she has been an advocate for LGBT for a long time. Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #27

A little over two years Dragonfli Dec 2015 #59

I guess you don't know all of Hillary's positions for two decades Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #70

Well you clearly do not, your many posts give you away, I find you to be the least informed poster Dragonfli Dec 2015 #75

Oh, yea Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #77

I agree with Dragonfli... malokvale77 Dec 2015 #99

Attacking me does not change the truth, it only reflects on you. Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #126

Well Manny, things that Bernie did decades ago simply do not matter. cui bono Dec 2015 #35

Sez you DaveT Dec 2015 #44

In 2008 he still thought same sex marriage was a states' rights issue. pnwmom Dec 2015 #58

Were you offended in 2006 when Bernie opposed marriage equality in VT? BainsBane Dec 2015 #38

None of those claim he opposed marriage equality in 2006 MannyGoldstein Dec 2015 #39

To be fair: He may have (personally) supported marriage equality in VT...he may have opposed it... Chitown Kev Dec 2015 #52

Do you have proof he opposed marriage equality? beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #55

Biden is the hero Protalker Dec 2015 #43

That is the disagreement between us DaveT Dec 2015 #45

Joe Biden...the man who voted for DOMA? Chitown Kev Dec 2015 #54

He voted for DOMA in 1996. beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #60

Thnak you, bmus Chitown Kev Dec 2015 #67

Honestly I don't think Obama ever really opposed it. beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #72

Biden announced for marriage equality 5/6/12. irisblue Dec 2015 #76

1996, you can look that one up Chitown Kev Dec 2015 #83

this is akin to Trump being Anti Abortion now after being Pro Choice PatrynXX Dec 2015 #46

Links please. I think she was a few years behind Bernie, but ahead of the general curve. nt pnwmom Dec 2015 #53

Here's one but I have more if you need them: beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #57

Hah... malokvale77 Dec 2015 #62

Opportunism, plain and simple. Indepatriot Dec 2015 #63

Tell like it is, Manny. Duppers Dec 2015 #66

Honestly, i prefer a politician who is willing to change their positions Midnight Writer Dec 2015 #69

That is a reasonable point DaveT Dec 2015 #79

I would prefer the politician who always had the correct position... Ino Dec 2015 #80

Who among us has "been on the right side all along"? Midnight Writer Dec 2015 #91

Bernie Sanders Ino Dec 2015 #103

She is an embarrassment, but not as much as Doctor_J Dec 2015 #73

And I am offended when folks try to stifle free speech by saying "It offends me!" McCamy Taylor Dec 2015 #88

distortions and lies revulse honest people. reddread Dec 2015 #127

So you want to stop my free speech, MannyGoldstein Dec 2015 #131

Offends me too. zentrum Dec 2015 #93

BINGO reddread Dec 2015 #139

Agreed 100% Fearless Dec 2015 #98

her choices and positions have been driven by her agenda olddots Dec 2015 #101

She's smart enough to not take endorsements from gay bashers MADem Dec 2015 #105

Hillary took an endorsement from EMILY's List, they love anti-lgbt/choice Christian bigots: beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #111

Because "blogspots" are reliable sources of information. Please. nt MADem Dec 2015 #115

Posted without comment: NuclearDem Dec 2015 #106

OMG, THANK YOU. I was going to post about Reagan R B Garr Dec 2015 #108

ME TOO. betsuni Dec 2015 #112

Thank you. Starry Messenger Dec 2015 #134

It's too bad you weren't offended when you voted for Reagan zappaman Dec 2015 #110

I voted for Reagan in 1980. A difference between you and me is MannyGoldstein Dec 2015 #120

In 1980 I voted for Reagan despite his ignoring AIDS, which MannyGoldstein Dec 2015 #123

It is offensive to me that you post such crap. riversedge Dec 2015 #114

LOL! MannyGoldstein Dec 2015 #121

She has no moral compass emsimon33 Dec 2015 #118

Yup, what you said Boomer Dec 2015 #129

You nailed her M.O. perfectly... Hepburn Dec 2015 #140

She is no fierce advocate. Never has been. bigwillq Dec 2015 #130

That is just plain wrong. bvar22 Dec 2015 #143

I'm gay and I agree with you. She was an opportunist with LGBT issues. Not a leader/champion. nt stillwaiting Dec 2015 #135

..... bigwillq Dec 2015 #145

Holy shit, the Tag-Team of Superiority (TTS, patent pending) strikes again! randome Dec 2015 #136

What's new? Renew Deal Dec 2015 #141

As an LGBT person, I'm horrified at what I have discovered about Hillary's Zorra Dec 2015 #144

K&R..... daleanime Dec 2015 #146

Kick and R BeanMusical Dec 2015 #148