2016 Postmortem

PoliticalMalcontent

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145. I'm disappointed.

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 05:30 PM

Dec 2015

Sanders fans tearing down the DNC. Clinton fans tearing down Sanders.

Whose fault is it? Seems there's plenty of blame to go around. To Sanders' credit it's not like he told his staffer to access exposed Clinton data (most probably anyway). To Sanders' credit he fired the staffer who ordered people to take a look in inappropriate areas while the firewall was down. Still... I can't help but think that this is an overreaction from the DNC. If this was a Clinton staffer doing the same thing would the DNC have shut off her access to voter files? I doubt it, but we'll never know for sure.

Supposedly, the vendor was made aware of this flaw months ago. They should be held accountable as well.

Interestingly, when asked for comments on this whole ordeal Clinton's campaign declined. Why? It could be out of respect. It could be waiting for more information to come out. Or.... perhaps because this could boomerang back on her. The head of the vendor in question (NGP VAN) was also the Chief Technoloy Officer for the Clinton campaign in 2008. To be honest, Clinton's track record with digital security has been less than stellar. I'm sure she doesn't want people talking about her own issues digital issues, especially with her tied to NGP VAN.

Anyway... It seems like Sanders has taken the appropriate actions and if the DNC doesn't fix this soon they risk pissing off a lot of people. I've voted (nearly) straight democrat all my years in voting... The DNC is really making me reconsider that (Thanks, Debbie!).

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The Gloves are OFF! Looks like Bernie has had enough of the DNC BUllshit` [View all] Ferd Berfel Dec 2015 OP

Bernie's campaign admitted fault. JaneyVee Dec 2015 #1

And fired someone. Agschmid Dec 2015 #15

Rose colored glasses much? MrMickeysMom Dec 2015 #65

Bull droppings. senz Dec 2015 #105

Report: Sanders campaign told DNC of data issue months ago Ferd Berfel Dec 2015 #142

Good luck with that.... VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #2

There is no cover-up, yet Proserpina Dec 2015 #70

there is on DU... VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #77

You were saying???? VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #78

There's this... tecelote Dec 2015 #111

Conspiracy Theories... VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #112

I didn't mention any conspiracy. tecelote Dec 2015 #114

Your entire premise is one... VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #117

Funny. tecelote Dec 2015 #125

The breach is not the issue is it? VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #126

What did they do with it? tecelote Dec 2015 #128

there are not enough digits in your phone # demwing Dec 2015 #3

. . . Triana Dec 2015 #4

This is the same DNC that provided them a tool for analyzing data? OilemFirchen Dec 2015 #8

Also a tool for exposing their own data. cprise Dec 2015 #95

A tool, then, for exposing each campaign's data. OilemFirchen Dec 2015 #102

Nope. It's a very expensive tool, and there's no alternative to it. beerandjesus Dec 2015 #120

No campaign is forced to use it. OilemFirchen Dec 2015 #129

Post removed Post removed Dec 2015 #138

Okay. OilemFirchen Dec 2015 #140

Nicely done UglyGreed Dec 2015 #14

Sanders wants access to the umbrella that Skidmore Dec 2015 #17

Which rules? Voice for Peace Dec 2015 #36

Oh, sorry...we're not playing by the HRC rules. Hepburn Dec 2015 #56

Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2015 #69

That's the root of the problem Politicub Dec 2015 #91

. . . Triana Dec 2015 #46

This is going to backfire on them bigtime. When did they hire Carl Rove? litlbilly Dec 2015 #5

Yup! fleur-de-lisa Dec 2015 #11

It appears to be backfiring already. n/t Hepburn Dec 2015 #12

Probably about the same time they brought back Mark Penn Samantha Dec 2015 #68

backfiring you say? VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #79

Yep the exploding septic tank is splattering Debbie in the face. JimDandy Dec 2015 #121

Aint that the sad truth Ferd Berfel Dec 2015 #143

Time to pull his name off the ballots and eject him from the party MohRokTah Dec 2015 #6

LOL you are jumping the shark with another shark arcane1 Dec 2015 #7

Who STOLE data that represents "millions of dollars in Clinton Campaign investments"? MohRokTah Dec 2015 #10

Play that role! arcane1 Dec 2015 #13

who are you calling foolish now? VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #80

LOL! Matariki Dec 2015 #20

They'll be demanding Sanders be thrown in jail by the end of the day. arcane1 Dec 2015 #22

You all sure as shit would if it were Clinton VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #81

Feh... kenfrequed Dec 2015 #98

Not Feh.... VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #110

I would bet Clinton's camp did. This bug Sanders reported 2 MONTHS AGO was a feature not a flaw. JimDandy Dec 2015 #108

Great idea if you're trying to guarantee that Trump will be President for the next four years. Dawgs Dec 2015 #28

....run Hillary against tRump..... daleanime Dec 2015 #48

Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2015 #71

I either love your sense of humor or am wowed by your cognitive dissonance. Elmer S. E. Dump Dec 2015 #109

Kick ass, Bernie! fleur-de-lisa Dec 2015 #9

This feels like the great schism.. artislife Dec 2015 #73

If I had a nickle every time I heard that one... tasgator Dec 2015 #123

the vendor used to work for hillary restorefreedom Dec 2015 #16

Surely a coincidence, right? Isn't it always? arcane1 Dec 2015 #26

HA!!! MynameisBlarney Dec 2015 #93

Setup to trick bkkyosemite Dec 2015 #38

Wow MissDeeds Dec 2015 #131

We are certainly seeing them for whom they are now. senz Dec 2015 #18

I get the feeling.... daleanime Dec 2015 #51

I hope it wakes people up to the reality of Wasserman-Shultz and the DNC Douglas Carpenter Dec 2015 #19

Anyone who thinks Bernie Sanders,who was an independent up until sufrommich Dec 2015 #21

We'll see. Dawgs Dec 2015 #24

The DNC just ratfucked him. What do you expect him to do in response? nt mhatrw Dec 2015 #42

I don't know if that's how it will play cali Dec 2015 #45

There's no doubt in my mind that this sufrommich Dec 2015 #47

It depends. cali Dec 2015 #50

Right. The DNC trying to rig the primary in favor of their chosen candidate will not play well. Ed Suspicious Dec 2015 #75

Just about to post something similar and couldn't have said it as well. Dawgs Dec 2015 #23

Bernie Sanders isn't really a Democrat is what the problem is. moobu2 Dec 2015 #25

I heard he's not a Christian either. arcane1 Dec 2015 #29

You nailed it to the wall workinclasszero Dec 2015 #30

Which rules? Voice for Peace Dec 2015 #37

Bernie has been a professional politician for basically his entire life as an Indipendent. moobu2 Dec 2015 #43

I still don't know what rules you are talking about. Voice for Peace Dec 2015 #44

That isn't true about his reasons for running as a Democrat moobu2 Dec 2015 #49

Bernie HAD to become a Democrat ONLY because the state rules of New Hampshire VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #82

Wtf is a real democrat? Voice for Peace Dec 2015 #85

Well until Sanders said "I am a Democrat NOW" in New Hampshire the day he signed on to the ballot VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #86

What does it mean? Voice for Peace Dec 2015 #90

"Later" is a lie. He said it before he even decided to officially run. arcane1 Dec 2015 #96

"Bernie Sanders isn't a real Democrat, he's just using the Democratic Party structure" workinclasszero Dec 2015 #55

Query: What's a "real Democrat"? Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2015 #54

Well, a real Democrat would be someone who has a history of being a member of that Party moobu2 Dec 2015 #61

Accordingly to what? Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2015 #67

Thanks Voice for Peace Dec 2015 #94

I guess "thinking for themselves" bars them from being Real Democrats. Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2015 #100

Boom! Dawson Leery Dec 2015 #57

The invited guest who steals from his host Politicub Dec 2015 #88

And he's not a man either. Or old. Or balding. mwooldri Dec 2015 #89

Bernie admitted fault workinclasszero Dec 2015 #27

They don't. They are as blind as the Trumpites. Dawson Leery Dec 2015 #53

The not willing to see workinclasszero Dec 2015 #59

Nothing "lite" about it. Fuddnik Dec 2015 #63

That's for sure. nt artislife Dec 2015 #74

Hopefully this will wake up the people NowSam Dec 2015 #31

You would be hopping mad if Clinton's team did this mythology Dec 2015 #32

How do you know that they poked around? They had told the jwirr Dec 2015 #103

K N R Faux pas Dec 2015 #33

The DNC is driving Democrats away!!! CoffeeCat Dec 2015 #34

I feel the same Runningdawg Dec 2015 #58

K&R jwirr Dec 2015 #104

The DNC is doing a great job alienating Bernie supporters with their stacked-deck primary. pa28 Dec 2015 #35

Unless the anointed change, the choice is now Mussolini or Rove. nt mhatrw Dec 2015 #39

BABB! Nitram Dec 2015 #40

projection over introspection demwing Dec 2015 #84

Wait a minute. Isn't this about Bernie supporters trying to say it's not Bernie's fault? Nitram Dec 2015 #115

K & R !!! WillyT Dec 2015 #41

Always the angry victims. Amazing redstateblues Dec 2015 #60

Drama much! beaglelover Dec 2015 #52

Schultz and her DNC clan are in a panic. Uncle Joe Dec 2015 #62

It's the supreme court stupid angryvet Dec 2015 #64

Why artislife Dec 2015 #76

You don't think she'll stack the Court for Wall St.? senz Dec 2015 #92

No, because that's not how it works. NuclearDem Dec 2015 #101

This is different. Hillary is NOT Obama. senz Dec 2015 #107

No disguise. One doesn't have to be a Clinton supporter to see this bullshit for what it is. NuclearDem Dec 2015 #116

Oh its bullshit that they downloaded all that material? VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #119

Yeah, I love the way you trade out the O'Malley avatar senz Dec 2015 #127

I've had two avatars here ever, the one i used when I registered in 2010 NuclearDem Dec 2015 #132

A few weeks ago senz Dec 2015 #139

Then you're confusing me with someone else. NuclearDem Dec 2015 #146

Those above who bitch and moan that Bernie isn't a real Democrat.... Fed up in NJ Dec 2015 #66

The Democratic Party is splitting in half senz Dec 2015 #118

This might be an opportune time floriduck Dec 2015 #72

I called earlier and asked them to stay strong and I support the DNC. riversedge Dec 2015 #83

If I get an email from the Sanders campaign Politicub Dec 2015 #87

I'll take the "not even a Democrat" over "not even a progressive" every time. arcane1 Dec 2015 #99

Ooo, you REALLY want to get him out of the way senz Dec 2015 #137

And if you DON'T get an email from the Sanders campaign ... Trajan Dec 2015 #144

It's very important we all take a step back and point our fingers... LanternWaste Dec 2015 #97

Yeah, I'm pretty fed up. Elmer S. E. Dump Dec 2015 #106

Jim Webb agress with Bernie..."The DNC is nothing more than an arm for the Clinton campaign." raindaddy Dec 2015 #113

Honey, that could make a very fine OP senz Dec 2015 #122

Go ahead and use it if you like senz.. raindaddy Dec 2015 #124

I won't vote for Hillary, PERIOD after this. JPnoodleman Dec 2015 #130

It doesn't matter Tarc Dec 2015 #136

The glorious DNC, were democratic voters don't matter. JPnoodleman Dec 2015 #141

Bare Knuckles Boxing Match MineralMan Dec 2015 #133

The DNC is not panicking in the slightest Tarc Dec 2015 #134

DNC OhDemMom Dec 2015 #135

I'm disappointed. PoliticalMalcontent Dec 2015 #145