2016 Postmortem

roguevalley

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67. if you really believe in democratic politics and the things our country

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 06:39 PM

Dec 2015

espouses, no one on either side should fear this investigation and its outcome. If he's wrong, he looks bad and hell will be the outcome. If he's right, it exposes a crime, the willful attempt to ensure that a candidate wins over the will of the people. If you believe in democracy and America, you will support and find comfort in both sides of the outcome. If not, well, look up cult in the dictionary. IMHO.

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Bernie Sanders Team Claims They Can PROVE DNC Is In Collusion With Hillary [View all] Segami Dec 2015 OP

Collusion NowSam Dec 2015 #1

Sure thing. Duckfan Dec 2015 #45

Typical lawyer talk. He knows nothing, has no evidence, but he's got lots of SUSPICIONS pnwmom Dec 2015 #89

They have evidence. Fawke Em Dec 2015 #104

No, the first thing they learn how to do is bluff. n/t pnwmom Dec 2015 #106

Filing a federal lawsuit is moving beyond bluffing. eom Fawke Em Dec 2015 #108

The lawsuit to get them to enforce the contract is one thing. I think they were right about that. pnwmom Dec 2015 #109

Wrong.... paleotn Dec 2015 #116

Oh yeah? What would he have to lose? He rolls the dice and he gets his contract terms enforced, pnwmom Dec 2015 #123

Right. Spoken like somebody whose bvf Dec 2015 #141

No. The first thing you learn is to view a problem from as many points of view as possible. JDPriestly Dec 2015 #156

things are beginning to fall into place n/t Nite Owl Dec 2015 #143

Oh, lordy, no. That's not the first thing we teach. nt msanthrope Dec 2015 #144

Although he went to law school, I don't think he every practiced law... George II Dec 2015 #124

Interesting. Thanks! pnwmom Dec 2015 #126

Is he a lawyer? MADem Dec 2015 #172

Alan Grayson DENIES that he endorsed Hillary. senz Dec 2015 #93

Maybe he got my message. Enthusiast Dec 2015 #98

if you can't arm-twist your way into endorsements, just make 'em up! MisterP Dec 2015 #101

I heard that ,too. Thanks, senz. Duval Dec 2015 #113

Thanks for posting that. n/t Hiraeth Dec 2015 #130

I honestly don't think Clinton wants Alan Grayson's endorsement. Who would these days? George II Dec 2015 #135

HRC Data Breach Marie S. Dec 2015 #173

Yup, he's the trump on the Democratic side this cycle. Blue_Adept Dec 2015 #2

LOL! nc4bo Dec 2015 #6

Funny, it's the DNC that keeps getting republicans elected. Scootaloo Dec 2015 #28

Yep MissDeeds Dec 2015 #37

True. You'd almost think it was.............. Ferd Berfel Dec 2015 #119

Pointing out what is essentially a form of corruption (IMO) is not a bad thing newthinking Dec 2015 #42

if you really believe in democratic politics and the things our country roguevalley Dec 2015 #67

Huge +1! Enthusiast Dec 2015 #100

My money is on Bernie Ferd Berfel Dec 2015 #122

agree. Hiraeth Dec 2015 #129

+1 - very well said. n/t ms liberty Dec 2015 #148

Brilliant! Phlem Dec 2015 #114

At least someone gets it ;) Blue_Adept Dec 2015 #115

You know it. Phlem Dec 2015 #134

If, indeed, that riversedge Dec 2015 #155

And Bernie supporters will use this to bash the holy hell out of Hillary, Hillary supporters randys1 Dec 2015 #3

We deserve a fair and impartial DNC that serves the Democratic Oarty highprincipleswork Dec 2015 #10

Absolutely. It appears that the Clintons decided they "owned" the democratic party erronis Dec 2015 #48

Nice repackaging of the "be afraid of the GOP, settle for Clinton" argument. Betty Karlson Dec 2015 #25

As a resident of California, I concur. dogknob Dec 2015 #38

The DNC is supposed to be impartially supportive of all Democratic candidates. Scootaloo Dec 2015 #33

Really? Plucketeer Dec 2015 #54

I am way too liberal for the dem party, but I look at the big picture, randys1 Dec 2015 #91

The big picture is severely warped. Fantastic Anarchist Dec 2015 #131

You're definitely not right. Fantastic Anarchist Dec 2015 #127

This message was self-deleted by its author rhett o rick Dec 2015 #168

Go for it Bernie. Investigate what really happened. The DNC jwirr Dec 2015 #4

k+r Attorney in Texas Dec 2015 #5

Good one! Paka Dec 2015 #77

K & R, A good one JD n/t Oldtimeralso Dec 2015 #171

I love it... DUbeornot2be Dec 2015 #7

lol u believe rjsquirrel Dec 2015 #88

No, he or she believes in the truth. Fantastic Anarchist Dec 2015 #132

A just so story rjsquirrel Dec 2015 #133

You mean the campaign manager who keeps lying? JaneyVee Dec 2015 #8

Of course.....not a peep from you about the WaPo article. Segami Dec 2015 #9

+1 Leftyforever Dec 2015 #13

I'm sure some of them are. Broward Dec 2015 #18

I noticed that DWS said EXACTLY the same thing as some of the Hillary supporters here. Fawke Em Dec 2015 #105

Uh oh, Word Salads...now who does that bring to mind? LOL libdem4life Dec 2015 #19

All the article says is that he THINKS he'll find evidence if only he can get hold pnwmom Dec 2015 #92

Yes, didn't steal data - at least according to the vendor (NGP's CEO) IllinoisBirdWatcher Dec 2015 #15

They saved files, meaning.... JaneyVee Dec 2015 #16

Name 47 of them. Agony Dec 2015 #17

Ok. JaneyVee Dec 2015 #20

Yes...we'll never know whether Team Clinton didn't make use of any of your listed items. Segami Dec 2015 #22

I set the bar real low, less than half, and you didn't even come close. Agony Dec 2015 #24

Each and every one of those that you posted would leave a foot print and WE WOULD KNOW notadmblnd Dec 2015 #31

No, taking a picture of your computer screen would not leave a record in the computer mythology Dec 2015 #59

There would be a footprint of capture software being used. notadmblnd Dec 2015 #65

The problem with mass media reporting of ID details IllinoisBirdWatcher Dec 2015 #29

Thank you for that. Paka Dec 2015 #85

after one of her spokespeople stood up and said Sander's stole millions from HRC notadmblnd Dec 2015 #99

This was said on the ABC national evening news. DhhD Dec 2015 #159

Word salad Katashi_itto Dec 2015 #36

I will campaign for Hillary until the cows come home zigby Dec 2015 #86

This message was self-deleted by its author SmittynMo Dec 2015 #90

great points. safeinOhio Dec 2015 #96

Hillary and her cows are leaving piles of bullshit for middle class and below to clean up. whereisjustice Dec 2015 #162

And Bernie is just leaving bullshit for people to swallow hook line and sinker. leftofcool Dec 2015 #163

sheep is more appropriate........ bowens43 Dec 2015 #165

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Dec 2015 #11

downtrend.com looks like a RW site. Vehemently anti-Obama, and looks pro-Putin still_one Dec 2015 #12

Since when does the obvious require proof? NorthCarolina Dec 2015 #14

"the DNC is desperate to settle out of court" Jarqui Dec 2015 #21

twitchy? Or witchy? Betty Karlson Dec 2015 #27

Oooh - another flag coming. They have to make this a purely HRC site. erronis Dec 2015 #51

Hasn't the head of the DNC endorsed Clinton? NCTraveler Dec 2015 #23

"Vary" doesn't work here. Clinton does represent a narrow group of voters --- erronis Dec 2015 #56

I believe DWS has every right to endorse HRC..... Fed up in NJ Dec 2015 #112

blame enid602 Dec 2015 #26

I bet they can find Hillary has been closely related to the DNC for many years. Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #30

The horror! Blue_Adept Dec 2015 #34

She's busted! A Democrat in the DNC. Haha Laser102 Dec 2015 #47

Smoking gun!!!! JoePhilly Dec 2015 #121

Excellent! polichick Dec 2015 #32

My gut reaction is that the timing and the heavy-handedness speaks of Hillary Hepburn Dec 2015 #35

If he succeeds it would do the nation good to see the ugly. Phlem Dec 2015 #39

I have a question that no one is asking. draa Dec 2015 #40

In my short opinion,... Segami Dec 2015 #43

It fairly obvious they don't want people looking it the DNC draa Dec 2015 #52

Yesterday when I heard safeinOhio Dec 2015 #103

She's probably waiting for the focus group results n/t arcane1 Dec 2015 #49

Let Bernie and his supporters do all the blustering. murielm99 Dec 2015 #64

Some might call that hiding...and letting the underlings take the heat. That, too, is a libdem4life Dec 2015 #69

LOL!...desperate?..rope?..hang himself?...Where have you been the last 48 hours? Segami Dec 2015 #74

Exactly. All I want is an independent audit. Let the chips fall. nt SusanCalvin Dec 2015 #87

Of the October breach Nite Owl Dec 2015 #145

Absolutely. Audit as far back as possible. Let the chips fall. nt SusanCalvin Dec 2015 #146

"afraid of what might come out in the discovery process of the legal proceedings." arcane1 Dec 2015 #41

All emails between the DNC, DWS and safeinOhio Dec 2015 #107

Right? I suppose we'll be called "Coincidence Theorists" :) arcane1 Dec 2015 #120

the lawsuit alleges breach of contract and two counts of negligence onenote Dec 2015 #128

Thanks for posting.. pangaia Dec 2015 #44

This is a campaign SPINNING wildly out of control. OilemFirchen Dec 2015 #46

More individual donations than any candidate in history arcane1 Dec 2015 #50

Fools and money. OilemFirchen Dec 2015 #53

Better than getting their money from republicans arcane1 Dec 2015 #55

And multinational corporations. MynameisBlarney Dec 2015 #63

People who send money toward candidates tend to vote for those candidates. PoliticalMalcontent Dec 2015 #125

Yes I agree, Hillary�s campaign is starting to look desperate. dorkzilla Dec 2015 #58

When your campaign is analogous to the Titanic, that happens. HubertHeaver Dec 2015 #170

I'm half expecting Sanders to come out on stage tonight wearing tinfoil. NuclearDem Dec 2015 #57

K & R ! TIME TO PANIC Dec 2015 #60

So, the Sanders' campaign accessed documents that didn't belong to them, Beacool Dec 2015 #61

In other words, a fishing expedition. randome Dec 2015 #62

Here is the Hillary campaign manager's "denial" over accessing Bernie's data. pa28 Dec 2015 #66

Freudian slip?.....mincing words?... Segami Dec 2015 #68

Okay, let me try... Hepburn Dec 2015 #72

Oh, jeebus. winter is coming Dec 2015 #117

good point questionseverything Dec 2015 #167

Wait wait wait LittleBlue Dec 2015 #70

I wouldn't be surprised. Why else would the DNC cave so quickly? Bread and Circus Dec 2015 #71

Does the DNC have a private server. I am sure they are busy right now deleting emails. Bread and Circus Dec 2015 #73

Sounds like Sour Grapes,,, Cryptoad Dec 2015 #76

Sour grapes make wine. So delicious. Bread and Circus Dec 2015 #79

Maybe Hillary can help...or at least send Pagliano? n/t Hepburn Dec 2015 #80

Like with a cloth or something? Bread and Circus Dec 2015 #81

Oh, yeah, Handi-Wipes! n/t Hepburn Dec 2015 #82

If he succeeds in doing this Clinton is toast! n/t RoccoR5955 Dec 2015 #75

I agree. Segami Dec 2015 #84

+1 safeinOhio Dec 2015 #110

I hope they sue the DNC - and don't settle. Let's see exactly how that WestSeattle2 Dec 2015 #78

Right. So he has no evidence now, but he's sure he can find something in discovery., pnwmom Dec 2015 #83

Seems to have worked safeinOhio Dec 2015 #111

Heck yes, K&R Babel_17 Dec 2015 #94

K&R Thanks for posting. eom Purveyor Dec 2015 #95

K & R SoapBox Dec 2015 #97

Very telling! Dont call me Shirley Dec 2015 #138

It appears that the DNC weknowvino2 Dec 2015 #166

Kicked and recommended to the Max! Enthusiast Dec 2015 #102

This is going to be very interesting. Duval Dec 2015 #118

K & R!!! Thespian2 Dec 2015 #136

Ruh Roh! in_cog_ni_to Dec 2015 #137

I'm sure they can, which is why the DNC caved so quickly. Bernie should NOT withdraw his lawsuit. sabrina 1 Dec 2015 #139

Election fraud? AgingAmerican Dec 2015 #140

When does "some people" equal the whole place or even a majority. Eko Dec 2015 #142

K&R nt Live and Learn Dec 2015 #147

Then why doesn't he just prove it? sufrommich Dec 2015 #149

".. what I think ..." uponit7771 Dec 2015 #150

If they can prove it JackInGreen Dec 2015 #151

Yes, please prove it. msrizzo Dec 2015 #152

Debbie WantsToRigIt-Schultz stating that all Bernie had was "bluster" is all one needs to hear... AzDar Dec 2015 #153

Go for it Bradical79 Dec 2015 #154

And yet... uberblonde Dec 2015 #157

Carpenters Union's Sanders Endorsement, coincidence? disndat Dec 2015 #158

Check the data staffers' bank accounts Rosa Luxemburg Dec 2015 #169

Dear Debbie, you fill your house with skunks, then act surprised when the smell escapes? whereisjustice Dec 2015 #160

It is the Democratic voters that are "conspiring" treestar Dec 2015 #161

That is like proving the sun rises in the east bowens43 Dec 2015 #164