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highprincipleswork

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39. Suit yourself. It still remains a bad strategy, that is if you want party unity.

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 02:33 AM

Dec 2015

There are a lot of people who consider themselves Progressive who are supporting Bernie Sanders and don't trust Hillary, DWS, DNC, or the party at large to listen to them or take care of their needs or concerns.

Especially since Hillary has such a polling lead, since she is doing well at debates, and for the sake of resolving possible charges of collusion, why not have more debates? Those who don't want to watch don't have to and won't. And there will be an opportunity created for more people to tune it.

Why not? What's so hard or damaging about it?

It would truly help to soothe the feelings of those who think the relationship is too close and unfair between DWS, DNC, and Hillary.

I swear, the convention, the general election, all that will go a lot smoother if Hillary wins if they would just work out that debate detail to some satisfaction from Sanders and O'Malley.

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The DNC Data Breach: An Analysis [View all] TheProgressive Dec 2015 OP

Another "expert" analysis I see. leftofcool Dec 2015 #1

Thanks. TheProgressive Dec 2015 #3

Thank you for the post and.... madfloridian Dec 2015 #5

I just felt it was important to present an analysis. TheProgressive Dec 2015 #6

I am an accountant and I can pick out upaloopa Dec 2015 #10

Who owns and provides all the info on this? Correct - Clinton's DNC. TheProgressive Dec 2015 #12

What a snide remark that was. madfloridian Dec 2015 #4

Considering the initial analysis relies on opinions presented as fact mythology Dec 2015 #29

Jury results. merrily Dec 2015 #41

Thank You For Sharing These Truths cantbeserious Dec 2015 #2

This whole thing is a swiftboating. lumberjack_jeff Dec 2015 #7

I think people are smart enough to know what happened here... TheProgressive Dec 2015 #13

Bernie? The guy who lambasted PAC's and then thanked one for spending money on his behalf? KittyWampus Dec 2015 #17

He's prudent to avoid wrestling pigs in their preferred mudhole. n/t lumberjack_jeff Dec 2015 #19

"There is no doubt in my mind that the Clinton campaign stole Sanders and O’Malley’s data" brooklynite Dec 2015 #8

Who owns and provides the data and info? TheProgressive Dec 2015 #9

You can have your own opinions but not your upaloopa Dec 2015 #11

T or F: the individual responsible for "data firewalling" decisions was a former HRC employee. lumberjack_jeff Dec 2015 #16

You're just making it up - guilt by association? Dem2 Dec 2015 #15

Conspiracy theories abound, I see Chitown Kev Dec 2015 #14

This analysis should make you think about what really happened... TheProgressive Dec 2015 #18

More of Bernie's shouting helps the American people? Chitown Kev Dec 2015 #20

Right. the last thing a democracy wants is for the voters to be informed... TheProgressive Dec 2015 #21

I'm speaking about myself Chitown Kev Dec 2015 #25

The timing of the debates is suspect, the amount may satisfy you but clearly not Sanders or O'Malley highprincipleswork Dec 2015 #37

But... Chitown Kev Dec 2015 #38

Suit yourself. It still remains a bad strategy, that is if you want party unity. highprincipleswork Dec 2015 #39

No it won't Chitown Kev Dec 2015 #42

The second the SBS staff saw a result set with data that they shouldn't be seeing then they stop and uponit7771 Dec 2015 #22

The first time in October, the staffer reported the breach. TheProgressive Dec 2015 #23

unnn...I doubt 4 of them were bribed to continue to view data they shouldn't be seeing. uponit7771 Dec 2015 #24

Per Jeff Weaver, a vendor called him in October. Per Josh, it was a different database, not VAN emulatorloo Dec 2015 #28

Can you provide a link for me... TheProgressive Dec 2015 #30

Both were said in interviews on MSNBC I saw live, link to JU's phone interview emulatorloo Dec 2015 #32

Unrec. Agschmid Dec 2015 #26

How do you know? Clinton's DNC owns the data and releases what they want to release... TheProgressive Dec 2015 #27

You do realize that the Sanders campaign has done that with this issue right? mythology Dec 2015 #31

At this point you are just making stuff up. Agschmid Dec 2015 #35

Again, where is all the data stored? Who informed the media as to what happened? TheProgressive Dec 2015 #36

And it's not just who has the most campaign dollars which influences the corporate media's slanted Uncle Joe Dec 2015 #33

Good points Uncle Joe... TheProgressive Dec 2015 #34

Best analysis I've read so far. eom Betty Karlson Dec 2015 #40

Thanks for that...! TheProgressive Dec 2015 #43

Bottom line is DWS/Hillary opened up this can of worms and DWS is now in legal trouble AgingAmerican Dec 2015 #44

You realize that the problem in October was with a whole other system? Blue_Adept Dec 2015 #45

The Sanders staffer who was fired has Zero credibility. TheProgressive Dec 2015 #46

and what does that have to do with what I said? Blue_Adept Dec 2015 #47

Everything... TheProgressive Dec 2015 #48