A rather selective and highly subjective group of "differences". (Reply #30)

In the discussion thread: 15 Fundamental DIFFERENCES Between Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton [View all]

Thu Dec 24, 2015, 01:58 PM

George II (67,782 posts)

30. A rather selective and highly subjective group of "differences".

For some of those points, where Sanders presumably was for or against something "sooner", Clinton wasn't in a position to publicly express an opinion at the time. Doing something "before" someone else is no big deal.

As for #8. "Sanders introduced legislation to overturn Citizens United. Clinton did not." , do you think it's fAIR and REASONABLE to say that Clinton didn't introduce legislation to overturn a Supreme Court Decision that was issued AFTER she had already left the Senate?

As for #11, that's not true (he has waged personal attacks) although he leaves most of that to his supporters.

Here are a few more to ponder:

Clinton has never lost a general election, Sanders has.

Clinton earned more votes in her very first election (3.7 million) than Sanders has earned in his entire political career.

Clinton has voted for gun control every chance she has, Sanders has not.

Clinton is in favor of repealing legislation that protects gun manufacturers, Sanders is not AND he voted for that legislation.

Clinton has been a DEMOCRAT for more than four decades, Sanders has not and he still doesn't consider himself a Democrat (although he's using the resources of the Democratic Party for "political gains"

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See how easy it is to counter such "lists"?

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91 replies	Author	Time	Post
15 Fundamental DIFFERENCES Between Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton [View all]	Segami	Dec 2015	OP
I want to know where she stands on the omnibus	JackInGreen	Dec 2015	#1
Don't forget fracking and college student debts. They differ on that also. nm	rhett o rick	Dec 2015	#62
She doesn't stand on the omnibus	nxylas	Dec 2015	#86
Cue The Swarm	Android3.14	Dec 2015	#2
+1	Matariki	Dec 2015	#17
So true. Instead of responses with substance arguing in favor of Hillary's views on the issues,	JDPriestly	Dec 2015	#46
It reminds me of the reactionaries that only root, root, root for the home team ...	Fantastic Anarchist	Dec 2015	#64
Oh Man—you said it!	zentrum	Dec 2015	#65
K&R! Down with 3rd Way.	Katashi_itto	Dec 2015	#3
Still on the fence but this is making me lean Bernie's way	awake	Dec 2015	#4
#2 needs to be edited	Motown_Johnny	Dec 2015	#5
Done. Thanks Motown_Johnny	Segami	Dec 2015	#6
Oh no, thank you for posting this.	Motown_Johnny	Dec 2015	#7
Same to you....Cheers!	Segami	Dec 2015	#8
K&R&bookmark	JEB	Dec 2015	#9
16. Sanders is honest. "We came, we saw, he died" is not. (Dodging sniper fire?)	peacebird	Dec 2015	#10
The mistakes that Hillary and Obama made in their policies in Syria, Libya and with their	JDPriestly	Dec 2015	#50
Oh my... That I had not read before. She is even more of a disaster than I imagined.	peacebird	Dec 2015	#52
Yes. I suspected this, but did not know the facts.	JDPriestly	Dec 2015	#54
Bernie has an ethical compass to guide him that points to true democracy	Proserpina	Dec 2015	#76
The most essential thing we could gain as a society is an ethical compass.	Enthusiast	Dec 2015	#79
Right.	JDPriestly	Dec 2015	#83
I agree!	JDPriestly	Dec 2015	#82
Huge +1! You sure nailed this one, "Politics is partly storytelling. Mythmaking"	Enthusiast	Dec 2015	#78
The RepubliCONS don't have a problem with turning consulates into drive thru arms movers	fasttense	Dec 2015	#89
She was named after Sir Edmund Hillary too.	BeanMusical	Dec 2015	#75
Egads, she actually DID claim that....	peacebird	Dec 2015	#88
Bernie is on my side. Clinton is not.	CharlotteVale	Dec 2015	#11
That's it. Bottom line. +1. nt	stillwaiting	Dec 2015	#28
Yeah, I don't understand how anyone who calls themselves	mmonk	Dec 2015	#12
It's emotion, not intellect.	Fuddnik	Dec 2015	#14
Honestly I think it is fear of losing the general....	Bonhomme Richard	Dec 2015	#22
Truth. Change doesn't occur without risk.	mmonk	Dec 2015	#24
Honestly	Old Codger	Dec 2015	#72
Intellectually?	TekGryphon	Dec 2015	#38
Really?	mmonk	Dec 2015	#39
You are welcome to refute them. And the poster has been here since 2008, not this year.	arcane1	Dec 2015	#51
Big words. Now back them, and do so with substance.	DisgustipatedinCA	Dec 2015	#74
I signed up back in January of 2004	Ned_Devine	Dec 2015	#80
Thanks for this concise, powerful list.	Divernan	Dec 2015	#13
Oh thank you Divernan!	Segami	Dec 2015	#21
yep, and moral calculus indicates that her opposition to SP alone	stupidicus	Dec 2015	#15
This message was self-deleted by its author	Still In Wisconsin	Dec 2015	#16
Kicked, recommended and bookmarked.	Uncle Joe	Dec 2015	#18
K&R	valerief	Dec 2015	#19
The line in the sand couldn't be clearer.	TIME TO PANIC	Dec 2015	#20
I'd add Social Security expansion vs Third Way entitlement deform..	tokenlib	Dec 2015	#23
If more seniors only knew this, more would switch over to Sanders' side. That's why DWS	Cal33	Dec 2015	#25
This is like "Baby's First Politics"	TekGryphon	Dec 2015	#26
Please provide links to Hillary's positions if you think they are not properly represented.	JDPriestly	Dec 2015	#55
I got to #2 and I'm already smelling BS.	TekGryphon	Dec 2015	#71
TekGryphon	navarth	Dec 2015	#73
Link to your proof that Bernie "opposed marriage equality" like Tarrant? Tia!	beam me up scottie	Dec 2015	#81
I have asked time and again for HRC supporters to debate any of these issues but they will not.	rhett o rick	Dec 2015	#63
Now that's a progressive!	farleftlib	Dec 2015	#27
K&R.	Duval	Dec 2015	#29
A rather selective and highly subjective group of "differences".	George II	Dec 2015	#30
One more: Sanders respects the left wing of the Democratic Party	farleftlib	Dec 2015	#31
Sanders has never respected ANY "wing" of the Democratic Party...	George II	Dec 2015	#34
He doesn't need anything	farleftlib	Dec 2015	#36
You're right. They're points. Talking points.	TekGryphon	Dec 2015	#37
So . . . which of the points in the OP do you disagree with?	JDPriestly	Dec 2015	#45
Well, I pointed out a few that were questionable AND one that was absolutely...	George II	Dec 2015	#60
Here are my responses:	JDPriestly	Dec 2015	#66
Wrong. Quite simpy wrong.	JDPriestly	Dec 2015	#57
Are you saying Sanders never said these things?	George II	Dec 2015	#59
No. I'm saying that considering the corruption in the Democratic Party now, I really don't	JDPriestly	Dec 2015	#67
Those statements were made decades ago (the first back in 1986, 29 years ago!)	George II	Dec 2015	#69
ain't that the truth	stupidicus	Dec 2015	#35
Hillary has only run for election two times, and only after her husband served in the White House.	JDPriestly	Dec 2015	#56
Message auto-removed	Name removed	Dec 2015	#32
K&R with thanks! n/t	bvf	Dec 2015	#33
To me the biggest difference is that Bernie doesn't think it's his turn.	jalan48	Dec 2015	#40
Hillary beats Sanders hands down if the things Hillary voters value is on that list.	uponit7771	Dec 2015	#41
Enough with the Hillary does not support me threads!	Kokonoe	Dec 2015	#42
Hillary supports military regime change while Sanders does not.	EndElectoral	Dec 2015	#43
What a bout free college tuition at state colleges -- Sanders has introduced a bill to provide	JDPriestly	Dec 2015	#44
Thanks JDPriestly....	Segami	Dec 2015	#53
HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!!	WillyT	Dec 2015	#47
K&R!	red dog 1	Dec 2015	#48
Clinton supporters are aghast that some Bernie backers said they won'vote for Hillary in the general	Broward	Dec 2015	#49
Bravo, thank you!	senz	Dec 2015	#58
You could edit your OP, and everywhere you said "Hillary",	bvar22	Dec 2015	#61
^^ This right here ^^	Scuba	Dec 2015	#85
It is shocking to se that list of Hillary's Issues,	bvar22	Dec 2015	#90
Yet some still insist she's a progressive. Weird, eh?	Scuba	Dec 2015	#91
HRC vs. Bernie on H-1B visas	antigop	Dec 2015	#68
And even Senator Cruz now stands with Bernie on wanting to control H-1B visas now...	cascadiance	Dec 2015	#70
K&R! It's those 14 and far more.	Enthusiast	Dec 2015	#77
K&R Great list and growing. Hillary's backers on this thread have been spanked. As for policies ...	Scuba	Dec 2015	#84
K&R for exposure. eom	Betty Karlson	Dec 2015	#87

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