2016 Postmortem

libdem4life

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66. Sanders was behind in Iowa before he started introducing himself to the nation.

Reply to hill2016 (Original post)

Mon Jan 11, 2016, 06:59 PM

Jan 2016

His numbers went up with every speech. If you haven't noticed, his speeches are received enthusiastically and so well it's usually SRO. Pretty far-reaching there to attribute it to a few minutes of "stolen data". Like this is the first political shenanigan that ever happened. He fired the guy.

What's the story about NH? Close to home state? Other numbers changing. What a fantastic super plot for a new movie. Speaking of movies, have you heard about "The Long Short?" they say it's factual and entertaining...discusses what we need to make sure our kids learn about how money is handled and who handles it, et al.

I mean, I gave her a pass on quid pro quo on the PP thing, but I guess I'll not bother next time. Lord knows how many votes that little partnership will net her.

Summary: Weak argument.

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Sanders was behind in Iowa until his campaign accessed sensitive data from the Clinton side [View all] hill2016 Jan 2016 OP

. beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #1

I'll second that well deserved derision. Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2016 #8

I'll buy a ticket also.... Segami Jan 2016 #10

Me too azmom Jan 2016 #16

It's a movement! Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2016 #17

No, it's a revolution! Duval Jan 2016 #97

Oh, FFS kath Jan 2016 #40

Cray cray on steroids CoffeeCat Jan 2016 #63

Ha! Ed Suspicious Jan 2016 #82

Let me get my licks in here Jack Rabbit Jan 2016 #90

can I add Duckhunter935 Jan 2016 #93

And one more Uponthegears Jan 2016 #95

Yes , the standard rebuttal from our political betters TheFarS1de Jan 2016 #120

1000 likes Uponthegears Jan 2016 #125

Cue the Benny Hill music .... TheFarS1de Jan 2016 #135

. beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #142

LOL Art_from_Ark Jan 2016 #176

Still going! When will the giggle-fest end I wonder? Bubzer Jan 2016 #116

So cray cray they need a vacay! cherokeeprogressive Jan 2016 #181

WON'T SOMEBODY PLEEZE THINK OF THE CHILDREN??? beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #13

The Humanity FreakinDJ Jan 2016 #43

seconded with an assist from newman restorefreedom Jan 2016 #54

BWHAHAHAHA..... Segami Jan 2016 #45

LOL !!! WillyT Jan 2016 #47

No votes have been cast and they're already casting blame neverforget Jan 2016 #72

Preemptive casting of asparagus. beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #73

This ^^^ ybbor Jan 2016 #78

a pandemic reaction has begun. nt edgineered Jan 2016 #80

Didn't you know? "Stolen data" changes indipendent polls!!! It's on the interweb so it must be true! Bubzer Jan 2016 #126

Not at all, I think everyone should rec it! beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #145

Guess they're already trying to find excuses for Hillary losing John Poet Jan 2016 #198

Ayup! beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #201

My take: he was going up anyway, and DWS/ Clinton failed to stop him even Betty Karlson Jan 2016 #199

You could be right. beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #203

I did notice that. Betty Karlson Jan 2016 #205

. merrily Jan 2016 #202

I'm sure this will go well . . . fleur-de-lisa Jan 2016 #2

I've received emails from the Clinton campaign since the breach on December. snoringvoter Jan 2016 #3

Interesting that. Nt Krytan11c Jan 2016 #32

Have you ever participated in an online poll? n/t 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2016 #81

Same here. I also got calls. Duval Jan 2016 #103

Same here MissDeeds Jan 2016 #130

Add My Name... n/t ChiciB1 Jan 2016 #172

THIS IS PURE and TOTAL CRAP! ChiciB1 Jan 2016 #173

I wrote back & told them for every solicitation I receive from them weknowvino2 Jan 2016 #146

Brilliant! I'm stealing! LOL n/t Oilwellian Jan 2016 #193

Me too, keep getting emails from Clinton winterwar Jan 2016 #153

Thanks, I needed a laugh today. n/t arcane1 Jan 2016 #4

Christ. PeteSelman Jan 2016 #5

Yawn.. sonofspy777 Jan 2016 #6

Are you serious? Punkingal Jan 2016 #7

No, they are trolling. morningfog Jan 2016 #190

Aliens . TheFarS1de Jan 2016 #9

Barkeep - get me some of what he's drinking! rurallib Jan 2016 #11

this isn't nearly as ludicrous as some accusations against Hillary. RandySF Jan 2016 #12

I agree. JonLeibowitz Jan 2016 #23

Does that makes it okay? Bubzer Jan 2016 #119

Does that make the hypocrisy OK? baldguy Jan 2016 #175

I just asked that question. Do try to keep up with the conversation. Bubzer Jan 2016 #192

Post removed Post removed Jan 2016 #200

I regularly see that level of hypocrisy from hillary supporters. Bubzer Jan 2016 #204

Projection is a thing Teabaggers do, too. baldguy Jan 2016 #208

Projection... such as calling others a teabagger through implication? Bubzer Jan 2016 #210

I don't believe for a moment Bernie was behind the theft of data oasis Jan 2016 #14

So Sanders is not in control of Skidmore Jan 2016 #27

He can't possibly keep an eye on everybody in his campaign. That's why oasis Jan 2016 #34

Sanders addresses this directly in the TIME interview last year DFW Jan 2016 #75

Hillary couldn't manage interns in her own house. Jarqui Jan 2016 #147

same exact argument I heard in support of impeachment of President Clinton Douglas Carpenter Jan 2016 #167

Excuses, excuses. People are tired of the Clintons. Clinton fatigue. Pure and simple. n/t in_cog_ni_to Jan 2016 #15

This really is it for me. boobooday Jan 2016 #117

The entire campaign would be about nothing but Bill Clinton and his many affairs. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. in_cog_ni_to Jan 2016 #138

And not just the campaign boobooday Jan 2016 #169

:---) juxtaposed Jan 2016 #18

Very Rich!!!! Melissa G Jan 2016 #19

I always appreciate threads like this--the implied accusations are worth the resultant rec list. nt DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2016 #20

lol 2pooped2pop Jan 2016 #21

Still not going to be enough to carry them across. Nt NCTraveler Jan 2016 #22

Clinton Was Ahead Until Her Campaign Accessed Bernie's Data - Seems That Did Not Work Well cantbeserious Jan 2016 #24

Maybe Clinton was ahead until DWS alienated Millennial Women and people who support legalized pot Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #28

Maybe One Is Also Right cantbeserious Jan 2016 #29

This. a2liberal Jan 2016 #209

... Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #25

Arguendo; What's Hillary's excuse? She's had that game changing data all along. lumberjack_jeff Jan 2016 #26

This is the real takeaway. Ed Suspicious Jan 2016 #85

I will not post my opinion on this. MohRokTah Jan 2016 #30

Then why post? DU demographics, IMO, are changing as the Democratic Party changes. libdem4life Jan 2016 #38

DU is not reflection whatsoever on the demographics of the Democratic Party MohRokTah Jan 2016 #39

There you go again, to quote a past President. libdem4life Jan 2016 #41

this is getting better!!! juxtaposed Jan 2016 #61

Whaaa... tecelote Jan 2016 #74

Didn't you know? We all hang out in DU's Marxist-Leninist Group Art_from_Ark Jan 2016 #156

... beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #162

All hail Chairman Meow! Art_from_Ark Jan 2016 #164

This thread just gets better and better! beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #166

Got anything else, other then the canned fauxian 'liberals are extremist' comparison? Lancero Jan 2016 #101

This got alerted on NobodyHere Jan 2016 #152

Well you do know that this is a progressive website not the DNC website, right? Goblinmonger Jan 2016 #161

Thank god for that. Perogie Jan 2016 #180

Post removed Post removed Jan 2016 #42

If Anonymous had done this to Trump 1939 Jan 2016 #52

6:1 for Bernie according to management. Ed Suspicious Jan 2016 #88

Oh, give me an F'ing break. paleotn Jan 2016 #96

Passive aggressive nonsense. Pitiful. morningfog Jan 2016 #157

You whine a lot! Nt Logical Jan 2016 #188

Desperate attacks from a flailing campaign ram2008 Jan 2016 #31

I'm sorry, but I think this is overreach. Baitball Blogger Jan 2016 #33

The only response to this... peace13 Jan 2016 #35

It is interesting his poll numbers has been going upbsince the breach. The early states information Thinkingabout Jan 2016 #36

And how did that work out for Hillary passiveporcupine Jan 2016 #76

As was said earlier; Hill had this game changing data Ed Suspicious Jan 2016 #91

It also snowed for the first time this year where I live after the 'BREACH !!! pangaia Jan 2016 #113

The breach must be causing Climate change! Science on climate change solved... Bubzer Jan 2016 #124

"Into the breach!" pangaia Jan 2016 #127

lol Bubzer Jan 2016 #131

Is a breach like a rift in the fabric of space and time? beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #132

NO NO that is 'BLEECH !!" pangaia Jan 2016 #134

LOL beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #144

HUM Ya think they get more than 45 min to gather valuable information FloridaBlues Jan 2016 #37

WOW, this is so lovely! sadoldgirl Jan 2016 #44

I'm embarrassed for you, that you started this thread. reformist2 Jan 2016 #46

And the dozen poor fools who rec'd it should know better. arcane1 Jan 2016 #65

Charitable interpretation: They rec'd it for its comedy value. Jim Lane Jan 2016 #106

Nah. But good try. Agschmid Jan 2016 #48

The lesson: Don't support a loser! immoderate Jan 2016 #49

Laughing so hard I UglyGreed Jan 2016 #50

It seems conspiracy theories are only allowed if they implicate Clinton baldguy Jan 2016 #51

This could be true ejbr Jan 2016 #70

There is power in data. Ed Suspicious Jan 2016 #98

Exactly ejbr Jan 2016 #107

No. I mean like magical power that can sway elections even Ed Suspicious Jan 2016 #110

! ejbr Jan 2016 #121

I know in 2008, we were calling from the NJ Voter records, horrible as they were karynnj Jan 2016 #158

Then why are you post #51 on a still-standing, stupid-as-hell conspiracy theory against Sanders? DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2016 #92

The desperation is getting deep. hobbit709 Jan 2016 #53

i think the woman at the diner said it best restorefreedom Jan 2016 #55

The searches focused on SC. joshcryer Jan 2016 #56

EPIC FAIL grasswire Jan 2016 #57

HA!!!!!! wendylaroux Jan 2016 #58

Oh Lordy... madfloridian Jan 2016 #59

LOL Iggy Knorr Jan 2016 #60

Naaaaa. JoePhilly Jan 2016 #62

Lol still_one Jan 2016 #64

Sanders was behind in Iowa before he started introducing himself to the nation. libdem4life Jan 2016 #66

LOL!!! Love it,.... love it... but what did anyone expect? uponit7771 Jan 2016 #67

I was thinking the same thing. (Only, I was afraid to say anything for obvious reasons.) NurseJackie Jan 2016 #68

Is that a joke? paleotn Jan 2016 #129

No, I'm serious. That's actually what I was thinking. NurseJackie Jan 2016 #133

Ooookaaaay. (nt) paleotn Jan 2016 #137

I really, really, really hope that Hillary floats this crazy idea CoffeeCat Jan 2016 #163

Ever see "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest?" Oilwellian Jan 2016 #194

I am so glad I came back MuseRider Jan 2016 #69

OMG I have not laughed this hard in a long long time passiveporcupine Jan 2016 #71

What a crock of steaming shit dorkzilla Jan 2016 #77

Haha, sure, that is why... Helen Borg Jan 2016 #79

yawn. great use a conservative source too PatrynXX Jan 2016 #83

Yeah right, that's gotta be it. NorthCarolina Jan 2016 #84

Snort!.... paleotn Jan 2016 #86

Libya was a stable, prosperous North African nation until Hillary helped raze it to the ground, Maedhros Jan 2016 #87

I just re-read her recent Brookings speech. delrem Jan 2016 #168

Bullshit. Bernies rise is a function of TIME and peopel getting to know him AND HIS RECORD Ferd Berfel Jan 2016 #89

Sanders was behind all along, and he has been making headway in catching up all along, too. Now Cal33 Jan 2016 #94

A valid question for coincidental timing Sheepshank Jan 2016 #99

Congrstulations. That is a Grade A smear Armstead Jan 2016 #108

Very clever, but missed the cadence of alliteration I was going for. n/t Sheepshank Jan 2016 #109

I was gonna say Clinton the Commie Armstead Jan 2016 #112

Are you sure you want to go with "shifty" for the Jewish candidate? beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #114

I like Sane Sanders muuuuch Better. #FeeltheBern Karma13612 Jan 2016 #118

gosh I thought it was Sanders supporters who.... Armstead Jan 2016 #100

ROFLMAO!! e hillary's minions are getting very very desperate!!! bowens43 Jan 2016 #102

LOL! The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2016 #104

How ridiculous. Enthusiast Jan 2016 #105

So, for the sake of argument, let's say Bernie is evil and all the data accessed was used. Vinca Jan 2016 #111

And so quickly? OMG, I know what happened... winter is coming Jan 2016 #122

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH #FeeltheBern Karma13612 Jan 2016 #115

This has gotta be the funniest thread I have ever seen, pangaia Jan 2016 #123

aw, hillary, hopemountain Jan 2016 #128

If this is all HRC and her minions have left to attack Bernie, they are truly running Feeling the Bern Jan 2016 #136

He'll be the "angry racist" again before the week is done n/t arcane1 Jan 2016 #154

Pathetic Moral Compass Jan 2016 #139

So what computer were YOU breaking in to KNOW what happened in these data breaches? cascadiance Jan 2016 #140

YES YES YES TRUE YES SoLeftIAmRight Jan 2016 #141

Sorry I'm late. bvf Jan 2016 #143

Thanks for the reminder Lazy Daisy Jan 2016 #148

Post hoc fallacy Qutzupalotl Jan 2016 #149

I changed my mind I don't want to vote for Bernie for President Kalidurga Jan 2016 #150

Right. And I NEVER got any junk emails from the Sanders campaign or their surrogates until.... George II Jan 2016 #151

Bullshit conspiracies belong in creative speculation. morningfog Jan 2016 #155

What an absurd conspiracy theory jfern Jan 2016 #159

Pathetic! 7wo7rees Jan 2016 #160

This is a joke, right? An attempt to see how bizarre one can get in attacking an Douglas Carpenter Jan 2016 #165

Wow the panikationating is rich. NT. Warren Stupidity Jan 2016 #170

Here's a straw for you to grasp. Blue_In_AK Jan 2016 #171

. Autumn Jan 2016 #174

First the data base infraction and saltpoint Jan 2016 #177

This message was self-deleted by its author Perogie Jan 2016 #178

Pathetic AgingAmerican Jan 2016 #179

This post is inappropriate for this forum. Please consider re-posting in "Creative Speculation" Douglas Carpenter Jan 2016 #182

The rules are very clear and yet JTFrog Jan 2016 #183

there are more than enough nasty and unthinking comments from both sides. I don't know who is worse Douglas Carpenter Jan 2016 #189

K&R for the Lulz Fumesucker Jan 2016 #184

Annnnnd that may be enough DU for me tonight.... Joe the Revelator Jan 2016 #185

Oh my bkkyosemite Jan 2016 #186

LOL,LOL,LOL the whining is getting worse! nt Logical Jan 2016 #187

First good laugh I've had on a cold day. Scruffy1 Jan 2016 #191

the real question is Lans Jan 2016 #195

Hilarious! eom fleur-de-lisa Jan 2016 #207

Stupid, stupid, stupid move. Fawke Em Jan 2016 #196

These are people who laughed at us, saying HRC was 85% in the polls, delrem Jan 2016 #197

That data seems to be helping Sanders a great deal Gothmog Jan 2016 #206

I find it slightly disturbing that there are 26 people on DU who are that intellectually dishonest Douglas Carpenter Jan 2016 #211

I've been getting Hillary fundraising E-mails ever since I started donating to Bernie's campaign Douglas Carpenter Jan 2016 #212