2016 Postmortem

randys1

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60. Oh, so Hillary might appoint SC justices who would overturn Roe? Gut voting rights?

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Tue Jan 12, 2016, 01:55 PM

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The difference between the endorsements by MoveOn and Planned Parenthood: [View all] redgreenandblue Jan 2016 OP

Astutely observed. Betty Karlson Jan 2016 #1

It was just like some of the unions endorsements. CWA members took a vote of members to see who to LiberalArkie Jan 2016 #51

One was top down. The other is bottom up. senz Jan 2016 #65

Each camp got a great endorsement and you have to make it vile. Shameful. riversedge Jan 2016 #2

How is that "vile"? TIA artislife Jan 2016 #15

Be happy for each campaign. No need to diss on PP riversedge Jan 2016 #36

That's impossible Tommy2Tone Jan 2016 #39

I never commented on the PP endorsement. artislife Jan 2016 #42

I was addressing the Sanders fans in general Tommy2Tone Jan 2016 #45

Please point a link to any Sanders fan dissing pp. Vincardog Jan 2016 #75

seriously? did you miss all the outrage against PP? one_voice Jan 2016 #84

Yeah..... Plucketeer Jan 2016 #32

Just to be clear, redgreenandblue did not make it vile Android3.14 Jan 2016 #53

Get with the program.. Sanders - good. Clinton - Bad Amimnoch Jan 2016 #104

That has been true of the union endorsements as well. Le Taz Hot Jan 2016 #3

You have selected option #2. Please confirm. randome Jan 2016 #4

O.k. i laughed.... vi5 Jan 2016 #6

And TODAY the SC will purposely violate the law or precedent and GUT UNIONS randys1 Jan 2016 #27

You'd think if anything would unite us, it would be this disastrous SC. randome Jan 2016 #35

+1. I strongly support Bernie, but I will avidly support whoever is our candidate in the GE. tblue37 Jan 2016 #107

Because facts matter Lazy Daisy Jan 2016 #44

Oh, so Hillary might appoint SC justices who would overturn Roe? Gut voting rights? randys1 Jan 2016 #60

Wasn't your original arguement Lazy Daisy Jan 2016 #64

So Hillary would appoint a union buster? What in anything she has done would lead to that? randys1 Jan 2016 #66

Hillary's SC would be VERY Wall Street-friendly senz Jan 2016 #67

And she is ten thousand times better than any con, you know that by now as well. randys1 Jan 2016 #69

She serves Wall Street and Wall Street is her sponsor. senz Jan 2016 #73

That you leave out the concern about SC justices supporting corporate personhood... cascadiance Jan 2016 #100

Hillary has a number of outstanding chits she may wanna cash in Trajan Jan 2016 #103

... BooScout Jan 2016 #5

. one_voice Jan 2016 #85

... BooScout Jan 2016 #96

The difference is clear. onecaliberal Jan 2016 #7

The difference, support Sanders and supports Clinton. I refuse validation, justification for war on seabeyond Jan 2016 #8

There is no "Democratic style" war on women. blackspade Jan 2016 #54

I disagree. When attack on PP resemble RW attack on PP, I say it is Democratic war on women. seabeyond Jan 2016 #59

You compare actual donors of PP voicing their discontent about management going over their heads ... redgreenandblue Jan 2016 #68

I compare vile, hateful comments attacking PP, promoting their destruction, excuse for behavior. Yes seabeyond Jan 2016 #83

The ONLY difference that matters to Bernie supporters: whoever supports Bernie is idolized. BlueCaliDem Jan 2016 #9

+1,000 NastyRiffraff Jan 2016 #10

Yep leftofcool Jan 2016 #12

+ 1 JoePhilly Jan 2016 #24

not really vilified for me personally retrowire Jan 2016 #40

That is why we have primaries, right? haikugal Jan 2016 #58

exactly, in the end, we all agree and stand by PP retrowire Jan 2016 #70

+1 Ed Suspicious Jan 2016 #105

As it is for both supporters. floriduck Jan 2016 #41

+1 BooScout Jan 2016 #72

What process did MoveOn use? Beaverhausen Jan 2016 #11

Clickety Clickety Click Bobbie Jo Jan 2016 #13

Because they are so scientific and all leftofcool Jan 2016 #14

Actually, if you had been a member you would know. artislife Jan 2016 #16

They also confirmed your vote via an emailed exit poll. Fawke Em Jan 2016 #18

MoveOn has 3.1 million members. 350,000 voted after sufrommich Jan 2016 #19

Maybe the other members who didn't vote artislife Jan 2016 #20

I've been a member of MoveOn since the 2000 sElection Autumn Colors Jan 2016 #49

If I remember correctly you had to be a member prior to the ballot announcement. blackspade Jan 2016 #50

Somehow, I think deciding who to endorse was more important than whether you were impressed. DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2016 #90

10% of an organization that large is a reasonable sample size. Actually way fucking more than Ed Suspicious Jan 2016 #106

Democracy? For those who bother? Bobbie Jo Jan 2016 #22

"The FB brigade alone is a force to be reckoned with" Especially when attacking women. Nt seabeyond Jan 2016 #23

I actually looked up the comments on the Planned Parenthood page. Most came from women. nt redgreenandblue Jan 2016 #26

But why don't h supporters who should be Move on members not bother? artislife Jan 2016 #25

It is irrelevant and a waste of time doing a silly little internet poll. From my perspective and seabeyond Jan 2016 #28

Why bother to post on the internet? artislife Jan 2016 #29

You do not see a difference voting a poll that means nothing and having conversations? seabeyond Jan 2016 #33

Seems to be a shared group activity artislife Jan 2016 #34

Well, Thank you for taking my word this is how I go about things, anyway. seabeyond Jan 2016 #37

Not so silly when a major progressive organization wants you to vote... blackspade Jan 2016 #61

mmmmm. I would imagine it is the same relevance as having a poll on DU. Look, I have already seabeyond Jan 2016 #81

I don't know... Bobbie Jo Jan 2016 #47

Well it seems like new school artislife Jan 2016 #52

What union? What was the event? DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2016 #91

I had not even realized I was a member of Move-On SheilaT Jan 2016 #38

Your implication is that Hillary actually won the MoveOn poll. DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2016 #87

I was going to blow this off Bobbie Jo Jan 2016 #92

It kind of starts and ends with the word "implication", as in, you didn't say it directly. DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2016 #93

See reply 16 artislife Jan 2016 #21

Exactly and same goes for the hollow Leadership ONLY Union endorsements. DFA and MoveOn.org in_cog_ni_to Jan 2016 #17

I've supported both PP and MoveOn Bjornsdotter Jan 2016 #30

Exactly! (nt) Autumn Colors Jan 2016 #56

They're two completely different entities in just about every way Blue_Adept Jan 2016 #31

Is anyone a 'member' of Planned Parenthood? NT Eric J in MN Jan 2016 #76

That's my point Blue_Adept Jan 2016 #80

The difference goes beyond that. blackspade Jan 2016 #43

Bull Hekate Jan 2016 #46

Their air of moral superiority is such a bore. Beacool Jan 2016 #79

Truth hurts, huh? 99Forever Jan 2016 #94

also mirrors how each candidate views government tk2kewl Jan 2016 #48

Bingo. zentrum Jan 2016 #55

Correct avaistheone1 Jan 2016 #57

MoveOn Asked Me to Cast My Vote gordyfl Jan 2016 #62

Democracy vs. Elitism. senz Jan 2016 #63

Nope, the main difference is that one group didn't endorse Sanders and therefore the drama. Beacool Jan 2016 #71

PP and MoveOn have the same constituency. senz Jan 2016 #74

Your comment looks very Socialist to me. Beacool Jan 2016 #77

Beacool, back in the 50s, 60s, 70s we called it democracy senz Jan 2016 #89

Sorry, I'm a bit young to remember those decades. Beacool Jan 2016 #95

So this is why we read and research and study history. senz Jan 2016 #97

Save the condescending remarks for someone else. Beacool Jan 2016 #98

I don't think it's possible to cut through senz Jan 2016 #99

Neither am I interested in trading insults with Sanders' supporters. Beacool Jan 2016 #101

Not so... Bjornsdotter Jan 2016 #78

I think that it's insulting to PP to think that they would endorse Hillary because of Lily Adams. Beacool Jan 2016 #82

It's called an uncomfortable Bjornsdotter Jan 2016 #88

Exactly the same scenario witheh UNION endorsements Ferd Berfel Jan 2016 #86

Yep. Top-down authoritarianism vs. bottom-up democracy. senz Jan 2016 #102