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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: What If Bernie Sanders Is the Democrats' Best Bet - TheAtlantic [View all]Gothmog
(182,913 posts)34. Even if Sanders wins both Iowa and New Hampshire, he will not be the nominee
Even if Sanders wins both Iowa and New Hampshire, it is unlikely that he will be the nominee http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/bernie-sanders-new-hampshire/
So why do I still think Sanders is a factional candidate? He hasnt made any inroads with non-white voters in particular black voters, a crucial wing of the Democratic coalition and whose support was a big part of President Obamas toppling of Clinton in the 2008 primary. Not only are African-Americans the majority of Democratic voters in the South Carolina primary (a crucial early contest), they make up somewhere between 19 percent and 24 percent of Democrats nationwide. In the past two YouGov polls, Sanders has averaged just 5 percent with black voters. Ipsoss weekly tracking poll has him at an average of only 7 percent over the past two weeks. Fox News (the only live-interview pollster to publish results among non-white voters in July and August) had Clinton leading Sanders 62-10 among non-white Democrats in mid-July and 65-14 in mid-August. Clintons edge with non-whites held even as Sanders cut her overall lead from 40 percentage points to 19....
But even if you put aside those metrics, Sanders is running into the problem that other insurgent Democrats have in past election cycles. You can win Iowa relying mostly on white liberals. You can win New Hampshire. But as Gary Hart and Bill Bradley learned, you cant win a Democratic nomination without substantial support from African-Americans.
But even if you put aside those metrics, Sanders is running into the problem that other insurgent Democrats have in past election cycles. You can win Iowa relying mostly on white liberals. You can win New Hampshire. But as Gary Hart and Bill Bradley learned, you cant win a Democratic nomination without substantial support from African-Americans.
Iowa and New Hampshire do not represent the demographics of the Democratic Party and so will not help sanders
I would not put too much faith in the results of Iowa, New Hampshire, Utah or Vermont
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Oh wow, today feels like some floodgates have been opened! It is not too late! nt
thereismore
Jan 2016
#2
I love your Username. I'm taking a Public Relations class and it was one of the first names we were
Ed Suspicious
Jan 2016
#8
No kidding and "unveiling" that tax plan in Iowa was just bizarre. A 4% tax on people who make over
in_cog_ni_to
Jan 2016
#9
Why do these late adopters feel everyone was so convinced that Bernie had no chance. I was for
Ed Suspicious
Jan 2016
#3
It's been an evolution. First radio lost to print, print lost to tv, then tv had to move to cable,
libdem4life
Jan 2016
#12
Because magazines like the center-right Atlantic think they're the vanguards of public opinion.
DisgustipatedinCA
Jan 2016
#57
I'd like to see good polling regarding "anyone but Bush/Clinton", and "anyone but that Socialist"
Babel_17
Jan 2016
#52
All these articles coming out for Sanders, exposing him, comparing his ideas to Clinton's...
Betty Karlson
Jan 2016
#54
Welcome to the party, Atlantic. Please stop by the Clue Table on your way in and pick one up.
DisgustipatedinCA
Jan 2016
#56