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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: What If Bernie Sanders Is the Democrats' Best Bet - TheAtlantic [View all]Gothmog
(183,018 posts)35. What Happens If Bernie Wins Iowa and New Hampshire?
Here is another good analysis that agrees with Nate Silver http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2016/01/11/bernie_sanders_could_win_iowa_and_new_hampshire.html
What would not change, though, is that Clinton would remain the clear favorite for the Democratic nomination.
Even if Hillary staggers out of New Hampshire with her second loss in as many contests, shell still have the same massive advantages she enjoys today: the campaign and super PAC cash, the ground game, the endorsements, the pledged superdelegates, and the general support of a party establishment that wont soon forget that her challenger is not technically even a part of the Democratic Party. An unexpected loss in Iowa and a less surprising one in New Hampshire wouldnt change that.
Shed also have a chance to get back on her feetand fast. Consider what comes next: Nevada (Feb. 20) and South Carolina (Feb. 27), two significantly more diverse states than lily-white Iowa and lily-whiter New Hampshire, and two places where Clinton currently enjoys massive leads in the polls. According to the RealClearPolitics rolling average, Clinton holds a 20-point advantage in Nevada and a whopping 40-point lead in South Carolina. March brings better news still for the former secretary of state, starting with a Super Tuesday slate that includes friendly territory in the form of southern states like Arkansas, Alabama, Tennessee, Texas, and Virginia. The rest of the month, meanwhile, includes several big, delegate-rich contests that she won eight years ago during her battle with Barack Obama: Michigan, Florida, and Ohio. Yes, Sanders could have the momentum this time next month, but itll be on him to to find a way to keep it as he heads into significantly more challenging terrain than Iowa or New Hampshire, which were always going to offer his best chance at pulling off an early upset or two.
None of this is to say that Clinton has the nomination locked up already. She doesnt. But if Iowa and New Hampshire are must-wins for anyone, its Sanders. Hillary canand likely wouldsurvive a slow start and still be the one standing on stage at the Democratic National Convention when the balloons come down this summer. Bernie, though, has no such margin of error.
Even if Hillary staggers out of New Hampshire with her second loss in as many contests, shell still have the same massive advantages she enjoys today: the campaign and super PAC cash, the ground game, the endorsements, the pledged superdelegates, and the general support of a party establishment that wont soon forget that her challenger is not technically even a part of the Democratic Party. An unexpected loss in Iowa and a less surprising one in New Hampshire wouldnt change that.
Shed also have a chance to get back on her feetand fast. Consider what comes next: Nevada (Feb. 20) and South Carolina (Feb. 27), two significantly more diverse states than lily-white Iowa and lily-whiter New Hampshire, and two places where Clinton currently enjoys massive leads in the polls. According to the RealClearPolitics rolling average, Clinton holds a 20-point advantage in Nevada and a whopping 40-point lead in South Carolina. March brings better news still for the former secretary of state, starting with a Super Tuesday slate that includes friendly territory in the form of southern states like Arkansas, Alabama, Tennessee, Texas, and Virginia. The rest of the month, meanwhile, includes several big, delegate-rich contests that she won eight years ago during her battle with Barack Obama: Michigan, Florida, and Ohio. Yes, Sanders could have the momentum this time next month, but itll be on him to to find a way to keep it as he heads into significantly more challenging terrain than Iowa or New Hampshire, which were always going to offer his best chance at pulling off an early upset or two.
None of this is to say that Clinton has the nomination locked up already. She doesnt. But if Iowa and New Hampshire are must-wins for anyone, its Sanders. Hillary canand likely wouldsurvive a slow start and still be the one standing on stage at the Democratic National Convention when the balloons come down this summer. Bernie, though, has no such margin of error.
Sanders is doing well in states with 90+% white voting populations and these states are not sufficient for Sanders to win the nomination. There are four states where Sanders is polling well in: Utah, Iowa, New Hampshire and Vermont. Texas has almost twice the number of delegates of these four states combined
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Oh wow, today feels like some floodgates have been opened! It is not too late! nt
thereismore
Jan 2016
#2
I love your Username. I'm taking a Public Relations class and it was one of the first names we were
Ed Suspicious
Jan 2016
#8
No kidding and "unveiling" that tax plan in Iowa was just bizarre. A 4% tax on people who make over
in_cog_ni_to
Jan 2016
#9
Why do these late adopters feel everyone was so convinced that Bernie had no chance. I was for
Ed Suspicious
Jan 2016
#3
It's been an evolution. First radio lost to print, print lost to tv, then tv had to move to cable,
libdem4life
Jan 2016
#12
Because magazines like the center-right Atlantic think they're the vanguards of public opinion.
DisgustipatedinCA
Jan 2016
#57
I'd like to see good polling regarding "anyone but Bush/Clinton", and "anyone but that Socialist"
Babel_17
Jan 2016
#52
All these articles coming out for Sanders, exposing him, comparing his ideas to Clinton's...
Betty Karlson
Jan 2016
#54
Welcome to the party, Atlantic. Please stop by the Clue Table on your way in and pick one up.
DisgustipatedinCA
Jan 2016
#56