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In reply to the discussion: How to spot a misogynist [View all]redqueen
(115,186 posts)2. These are 'debate' tactics that all feminists must be prepared to counter, *not kowtow to*...
let alone start to parrot such nonsense themselves out of some misguided sense of 'fairness'. Gosh, wouldn't the repigs love for us to start to treat their hairbrained, idiotic exuses for 'arguments' as if they had any validity whatsoever?
It also reminds me of Little Star's OP about misogynist language, from Shakesville, where we see this nugget of golden, shining truth:
http://www.shakesville.com/2007/11/on-bitch-and-other-misogynist-language.html
B. Not a Misogynist. How often does one have to use misogynistic language before one can be identified as a misogynist? Twenty times? A hundred? An infinite number of times, as long as he doesn't beat women? During the "cunt/whore" dust-up recounted here, Piny wrote a great post addressing this very question:
I wholeheartedly agree that there is a difference between someone who posts an ill-conceived blackface photoshop caricature and, say, Nathan Bedford Forrest. I will also happily concede that there is a difference between someone who openly identifies as feminist but casually uses misogynistic slurs and graphic misogynistic riffs to deride peoplewomen in particularand, say, John Knox.
This does not mean that its a good idea to restrict a racist, a sexist, and a misogynist, to the very worst of the worst. It reduces complaints about all of these words to matters of personal affront, such that sexist and cunt are equated. Sexist becomes not a criticism of someones demonstrated beliefs, a term like reactionary, but an epithet as crude as the slurs to which it responds. Its mean and unfair to call someone a sexist.
Emphasis mine.
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These are 'debate' tactics that all feminists must be prepared to counter, *not kowtow to*...
redqueen
May 2012
#2
my father in law thought he would be brilliant for us all and gave that to me.
seabeyond
May 2012
#14
Homophobes love to toss that one out there all the time, when anyone supportive
bullwinkle428
May 2012
#25
we see a huge escalation of the hate both toward women and minority. how long do we allow to fester
seabeyond
May 2012
#26
discussion is a fun thing. as is respect. even when we disagree. i thought your comments
seabeyond
May 2012
#39
that was not what i was pointing out on meeting the goal. i have no problem disagreeing on an issue
seabeyond
May 2012
#45
i see it. i am not going to judge on that. unless there is something hurtful...
seabeyond
May 2012
#68
i was thinking about your post. and my son popped into my mind. not gender specific
seabeyond
May 2012
#60
i had more men tell me they were attracted because i was independent and self sufficient
seabeyond
May 2012
#65
oh, i wonder what a wait staff thinks when i am in a chinese restaurant not knowing what i want
seabeyond
May 2012
#67
I agree that there are plenty of occasions where someone (male or female) made need
rhett o rick
May 2012
#74
and more young women are in college getting their degree, after all. lol. yes. nt
seabeyond
May 2012
#24
Maybe he feels threatened by a woman with the same level of knowledge he has......
secondwind
May 2012
#28
i have found that to be a HUGE deal. and per the post you are responding to, i have found
seabeyond
May 2012
#31
women are taught fromt he cradle to be differential, appease, be nice. not all women hold onto this
seabeyond
May 2012
#36
it is when the respect goes both ways that their is true communication and growth
seabeyond
May 2012
#35
i have to wonder what the comments are that he finds banter, yet the women finds misogynist
seabeyond
May 2012
#73
'dominant' gender to respect a 'submissive' gender, when 'power over' is glorified?
seabeyond
May 2012
#70