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History of Feminism
In reply to the discussion: How to spot a misogynist [View all]ieoeja
(9,748 posts)61. I often get accused of misogny for treating women the same as I do men.
My friends and I like to bust each others chops. A lot of women on the receiving end of that believe it is because I don't respect women. In truth, it is because I respect them enough to treat them exactly like I treat my male friends.
Fortunately, there are also a lot of women who feel the same way I do. Nobody can be friends with everybody (and I really get tired of employers who think it is necessary not just for coworkers to get along, but for us to be friends as well).
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This brings up a question. Some Southern Belle or {fill-in-the-blank} Princess who demands to be put up on a pedestal is clearly anti-feminist. But where does one draw the line on that? We all want to be treated special by a lover. Treatment related to biology - "put down the seat" - is understandable. What about the woman who thinks it is okay for me to jokingly insult a male friend, but not a female friend? Isn't that a little misogynist on her part? Isn't she implying that women can't handle the give-and-take that men can?
Note: this is different from a woman simply taking it personal for herself. That woman would presumably not consider it okay for me to do the same with my male friends either. No hypocrisy, no misogny.
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These are 'debate' tactics that all feminists must be prepared to counter, *not kowtow to*...
redqueen
May 2012
#2
my father in law thought he would be brilliant for us all and gave that to me.
seabeyond
May 2012
#14
Homophobes love to toss that one out there all the time, when anyone supportive
bullwinkle428
May 2012
#25
we see a huge escalation of the hate both toward women and minority. how long do we allow to fester
seabeyond
May 2012
#26
discussion is a fun thing. as is respect. even when we disagree. i thought your comments
seabeyond
May 2012
#39
that was not what i was pointing out on meeting the goal. i have no problem disagreeing on an issue
seabeyond
May 2012
#45
i see it. i am not going to judge on that. unless there is something hurtful...
seabeyond
May 2012
#68
i was thinking about your post. and my son popped into my mind. not gender specific
seabeyond
May 2012
#60
i had more men tell me they were attracted because i was independent and self sufficient
seabeyond
May 2012
#65
oh, i wonder what a wait staff thinks when i am in a chinese restaurant not knowing what i want
seabeyond
May 2012
#67
I agree that there are plenty of occasions where someone (male or female) made need
rhett o rick
May 2012
#74
and more young women are in college getting their degree, after all. lol. yes. nt
seabeyond
May 2012
#24
Maybe he feels threatened by a woman with the same level of knowledge he has......
secondwind
May 2012
#28
i have found that to be a HUGE deal. and per the post you are responding to, i have found
seabeyond
May 2012
#31
women are taught fromt he cradle to be differential, appease, be nice. not all women hold onto this
seabeyond
May 2012
#36
it is when the respect goes both ways that their is true communication and growth
seabeyond
May 2012
#35
i have to wonder what the comments are that he finds banter, yet the women finds misogynist
seabeyond
May 2012
#73
'dominant' gender to respect a 'submissive' gender, when 'power over' is glorified?
seabeyond
May 2012
#70