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CrispyQ

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30. DU3 sucks.

Wed Jun 20, 2012, 10:47 AM

Jun 2012

It's meaner & uglier - much like America after the Reagan administration. I've altered how I use DU. I participate less - make more casual comments & fewer commentaries of worth. It's not worth it. Too few really want to debate & too many attempts are fraught with those who just want to disrupt. My least favorite thing about the internet is that bad manners prevail in anonymous environments.

I also don't have time to get involved like I did a few years ago. In posts like the porn threads yesterday, I read the posts that educate & inform, & I skip the trash. Lots of trash yesterday, but some kernels worth taking away, too. Maybe learn to use DU differently? Scan the thread for names of those who you think contribute, & skip the BS. And of course, breaks from the internet are always good!

The commentary you posted is excellent. I wish I had read it when I was in my 20s. It would have shed a light on why I could never reconcile 'nice guys' as nice. I pretty much went for the dorks or shy guys - they felt that girls didn't like them & they didn't put on airs.

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This message was self-deleted by its author [View all] JTFrog Jun 2012 OP

i may use your article. i have learned so much more, lol, though that is a good start seabeyond Jun 2012 #1

Completely agree. DURHAM D Jun 2012 #2

Perhaps it is time for a "we the undersigned" letter/petition to Skinner? hlthe2b Jun 2012 #5

Seems to me WE should be the recipients of a petition from the Admin. DURHAM D Jun 2012 #7

Skinner is part of the problem. laconicsax Jun 2012 #61

There were a number of people -- including some women -- seabeyond Jun 2012 #62

Skinner no longer cares about the content on this site. BlueIris Jun 2012 #177

PLEASE make this a temporary absence. hlthe2b Jun 2012 #3

I can not blame you MattBaggins Jun 2012 #4

And also illustrated DURHAM D Jun 2012 #6

The TOS just needs to be firmed up and all this crap would stop. sigh Little Star Jun 2012 #12

I agree the TOS needs to be firmed up but DURHAM D Jun 2012 #15

That would be nice but host's don't even have that... Little Star Jun 2012 #18

I was only a GD host a couple of days before resigning DURHAM D Jun 2012 #20

Hosts can't lock for TOS boston bean Jun 2012 #23

I know hosts can't lock for TOS DURHAM D Jun 2012 #25

I thought I was answering, let me explain boston bean Jun 2012 #29

I understand all of that and more bb. DURHAM D Jun 2012 #32

I think I would like to see that as well. The hosts hands are tied. boston bean Jun 2012 #33

There is no tool available to hosts but.. Little Star Jun 2012 #42

The TOS does not allow misogyny TBF Jun 2012 #28

MIRT has no power to enforce the TOS. DURHAM D Jun 2012 #31

We do under 100 - TBF Jun 2012 #43

will sometimes look for other reasons to PPR so I don't even have to address that issue. seabeyond Jun 2012 #47

exactly. Little Star Jun 2012 #52

I sent you a PM DURHAM D Jun 2012 #57

About TOS violations being overlooked at DU. It's nothing new... Violet_Crumble Jun 2012 #169

+1000 laconicsax Jun 2012 #176

i agree with you Scout Jun 2012 #178

reality is, sitting up a forum to allow attack, mob call out has sit the environment up seabeyond Jun 2012 #179

I agree that the TOS can be interpreted that way but.. Little Star Jun 2012 #45

but then seabeyond Jun 2012 #180

That is a very good point. MadrasT Jun 2012 #181

volunteer for MIR team! n/t Scout Jun 2012 #183

The whole thing... MadrasT Jun 2012 #186

nothing wrong with that. n/t Scout Jun 2012 #187

MIRT does need consensus of more than one member before a PPR occurs. Scout Jun 2012 #182

Was there consensus with Many Shades of? boston bean Jun 2012 #188

It's really open under 100 and a hidden post is not needed - TBF Jun 2012 #189

The TOS (bigotry) is not enforced. RegieRocker Jun 2012 #34

I agree. DURHAM D Jun 2012 #35

How would we even know how many instances bigotry is TOS alerted on?... Little Star Jun 2012 #48

i seldom hit tos because the name who hits tos appears to mirt. that would cause me only more seabeyond Jun 2012 #50

ditto. I think there are some issues... Little Star Jun 2012 #53

MIRT is not really clicky. DURHAM D Jun 2012 #68

Thank you. This is really good to hear. Little Star Jun 2012 #72

So far I don't see it that way - TBF Jun 2012 #79

TOS alerts do not come to MIRT unless the jury hides the post. DURHAM D Jun 2012 #63

thank you very much for that much needed, really.... information seabeyond Jun 2012 #65

That's correct - we can't see who alerts TBF Jun 2012 #80

good to know. thanks. love me some confirmation, lol seabeyond Jun 2012 #90

Only the Admin know when TOS is alerted on. DURHAM D Jun 2012 #71

Aren't all the alerts that come through to the MIRT TOS alerts? Violet_Crumble Jun 2012 #170

Good catch. DURHAM D Jun 2012 #172

The whole TOS thing confused me for a long time... Violet_Crumble Jun 2012 #175

The Hosts have received an SOP violation Alert - Will not be Locking boston bean Jun 2012 #8

Absolutely.... hlthe2b Jun 2012 #9

thank you BB and hlthe2b. nt seabeyond Jun 2012 #11

+1 LiberalLoner Jun 2012 #21

Good lord. nt sufrommich Jun 2012 #14

Fascinating. The Doctor. Jun 2012 #40

good, i am glad to see that you recognize the kind of issues we are dealing with. seabeyond Jun 2012 #41

don't the people ManyShadesOf Jun 2012 #54

heads up, fits the SOP. and you are right there. clever you. it is ALL about the patriarchy and seabeyond Jun 2012 #58

Seriously? Texasgal Jun 2012 #70

Is Whisp a she? DURHAM D Jun 2012 #73

I don't know.. Texasgal Jun 2012 #75

I remember reading that Whisp is a "he." laconicsax Jun 2012 #82

That is what I sort of vaguely recalled as well. DURHAM D Jun 2012 #89

There is a place in the Profile for that information RC Jun 2012 #101

I don't care that this poster Texasgal Jun 2012 #107

I assume you are aware that Whisp is a host in the Feminist Group. DURHAM D Jun 2012 #120

I knew that he/she Texasgal Jun 2012 #128

I was actually commenting to RC DURHAM D Jun 2012 #130

Wasn't even aware of where I was at. If I had noticed, I would not have spoke up. RC Jun 2012 #132

actually, i thought the reasoning refreshing. i was quite impressed with your post and agree seabeyond Jun 2012 #134

Whisp alerted on that? MadrasT Jun 2012 #136

the swarm is starting to get desperate. n/t Scout Jun 2012 #141

Starting? Occulus Jun 2012 #154

They've kicked it up a couple notches. MadrasT Jun 2012 #155

I've got a question for you, Whisp... Violet_Crumble Jun 2012 #171

I hope you are only taking a little leave of absense.... Little Star Jun 2012 #10

I'm taking a temporary break too. sufrommich Jun 2012 #13

"good feminists know their place among the alpha males of DU". ya, but... no alpha male seabeyond Jun 2012 #16

Get some rest away from this place and.. Little Star Jun 2012 #17

i am going to a book. we have a book club to get all over. seabeyond Jun 2012 #19

I am so wound up sea, I can't even concentrate to... Little Star Jun 2012 #51

yes. seabeyond Jun 2012 #55

I'm sorry but I do completely understand. I've had to take breaks from time to time too. LiberalLoner Jun 2012 #22

" people we thought were on our side, really are NOT." and seabeyond Jun 2012 #26

Just wanted to say, I love and appreciate all of you here. LiberalLoner Jun 2012 #24

this is an obvious wake up call. and too many are hitting the snooze alarm. nt seabeyond Jun 2012 #27

DU3 sucks. CrispyQ Jun 2012 #30

A link to that crap you're posting would be helpful. Did somebody kestrel91316 Jun 2012 #36

Kestrel... hlthe2b Jun 2012 #39

The problem with that The Doctor. Jun 2012 #59

No one here wants the meta battleground in here. If you bothered to take any time... hlthe2b Jun 2012 #60

I have nothing bad or 'derisive' to say about this group. The Doctor. Jun 2012 #64

We are not propagating anything. Either educate yourself boston bean Jun 2012 #69

Thank you BB. I found it interesting to learn that this poster has had 6 threads hidden in the LiberalLoner Jun 2012 #74

Yes, my pro-puppy kicking posts were certainly my downfall. The Doctor. Jun 2012 #85

If we don't want to 'propagate' anything on DU, The Doctor. Jun 2012 #76

Thanks for your very unneeded responses. I take it that will be your last one here? boston bean Jun 2012 #77

I get that you don't want to hear it. The Doctor. Jun 2012 #83

At least try to educate yourself on the issues before propagating some boston bean Jun 2012 #87

Look, hlthe2b didn't want this. The Doctor. Jun 2012 #93

Are you done here or not? boston bean Jun 2012 #94

You want the hosts to keep people from reccing threads? laconicsax Jun 2012 #78

Of course not. The Doctor. Jun 2012 #81

That's OK, we don't mind being on the greatest page boston bean Jun 2012 #84

Good. The Doctor. Jun 2012 #86

Nope, we don't as long as it's done respectfully boston bean Jun 2012 #88

So, it's okay to post accusations, The Doctor. Jun 2012 #91

Again, go educate yourself as to what we are speaking of boston bean Jun 2012 #92

Then quit whining about this thread being on the "greatest" page. n/t laconicsax Jun 2012 #95

Skinner just announced we can trashcan entire groups now (like this one.) LiberalLoner Jun 2012 #96

I sincerely doubt that any of the people who complain about us will trashcan this group. laconicsax Jun 2012 #105

+1. i was thinking the same. nt seabeyond Jun 2012 #106

LOL! I just thought trashcanning us would be the ultimate way of silencing our voices is all. LiberalLoner Jun 2012 #108

hell we're to interesting for that! boston bean Jun 2012 #109

a lot of people that have no interest in feminism seabeyond Jun 2012 #110

Yeah, they are itching for a fight with women, itching to "put us in our place" if you know what I LiberalLoner Jun 2012 #113

Agree libodem Jun 2012 #97

Very thoughtful perspective. Old and In the Way Jun 2012 #102

That's very intetesting. rrneck Jun 2012 #122

You are not welcome here, with shit stirring boston bean Jun 2012 #153

LOL, every time I see "HOF" this image comes to mind snooper2 Jun 2012 #184

me too. not that particular picture, but that man. nt seabeyond Jun 2012 #185

Is it this one? PamKlaus Jun 2012 #195

i saw that one the other day. it is a hoot seabeyond Jun 2012 #196

I'm willing to discuss this rationally with you... Violet_Crumble Jun 2012 #173

Continue here: The Doctor. Jun 2012 #200

I am thinking I will only post here, on this forum. I need to make myself not read or respond to LiberalLoner Jun 2012 #37

I don't feel safe or welcome in the main forums, as a woman. seabeyond Jun 2012 #38

Or posters who say they are women... DURHAM D Jun 2012 #44

Hmmm convenient for those to post in opposition to all things feminist and attack DU feminists hlthe2b Jun 2012 #46

verbiage used seabeyond Jun 2012 #49

This message was self-deleted by its author LiberalLoner Jun 2012 #66

yup. i wonder... if it is not the same one for sure, lol. nt seabeyond Jun 2012 #67

If you wonder if I'm a female RainDog Jun 2012 #111

" If you wonder if I'm a female". this is all i read. i dont care. done. nt seabeyond Jun 2012 #114

yet you again resort to personal attacks. RainDog Jun 2012 #115

it is a personal attack not to be interested in your gender and not read your post? done. seabeyond Jun 2012 #117

geeezus... you are talking about the conversation between liberal and i. no wonder you get NOTHING seabeyond Jun 2012 #119

this is a public forum RainDog Jun 2012 #125

This message was self-deleted by its author LiberalLoner Jun 2012 #116

then whose gender are you and seabeyond and others RainDog Jun 2012 #118

This message was self-deleted by its author LiberalLoner Jun 2012 #121

then you're better off to state who that person is RainDog Jun 2012 #123

Well, I shouldn't have mentioned it, you do have a point there. LiberalLoner Jun 2012 #124

That is really rich boston bean Jun 2012 #126

thank you for your response RainDog Jun 2012 #129

you're very welcome. I hope your day improves as well! boston bean Jun 2012 #131

Really? Old and In the Way Jun 2012 #103

it isnt enough to roam around in gang fashion to insult us thru out du. because we are not out there seabeyond Jun 2012 #104

Great reply, telling it exactly as it is! Rest assured, we all see the bullies for LiberalLoner Jun 2012 #112

Ah, the victim card....again. Old and In the Way Jun 2012 #135

yes. and you are going to teach me manners. it is often i go into a group to purposely disrupt, seabeyond Jun 2012 #138

is your Sister of the Perpetually Victimized card a lifetime thing or renewable annually? Old and In the Way Jun 2012 #140

I'd say "weird, incoherent ramblings "is an insult ,and how dare you sufrommich Jun 2012 #142

Post removed Post removed Jun 2012 #158

well... woman. seabeyond Jun 2012 #160

I've only a small amount of time left Texasgal Jun 2012 #161

meh... then you go back to the page turner. i am off to do that myself seabeyond Jun 2012 #162

Please take this nonsense out of this group. n/t MadrasT Jun 2012 #146

You called her a name right here in this reply I am responding to boston bean Jun 2012 #151

little man had nothing on these insults. boston bean Jun 2012 #152

And now yr in Meta trying to make out you were merely here having a civil discussion... Violet_Crumble Jun 2012 #174

This guys first post here was mocking Sea for saying sufrommich Jun 2012 #190

you are correct. it wouldnt take much to notice this. mobbing, is what it is called. but... seabeyond Jun 2012 #191

and a big deal is being made about which forums have how many users blocked, and Scout Jun 2012 #192

that would be an excellent example of mobbing. nt seabeyond Jun 2012 #193

whether hof has anyting to do with it or not, what is important is inject hof into the conflict seabeyond Jun 2012 #194

As far as I am concerned, MadrasT Jun 2012 #197

so, it just does not show on latest but they would just come in and see seabeyond Jun 2012 #198

I'm very sorry to see you go, and I hope you'll reconsider. laconicsax Jun 2012 #56

"too old and too tired" is meaningless, the good fight continues regardless just1voice Jun 2012 #98

i like seabeyond Jun 2012 #99

So true. Sometimes we just need to take breaks and withdraw for a bit to heal. LiberalLoner Jun 2012 #100

I understand how you feel. Hatchling Jun 2012 #127

have i said that i have two gay BILs that we love with all our heart and if we die our kids seabeyond Jun 2012 #133

Be well, JTFrog... SidDithers Jun 2012 #137

Dear JTFrog MadrasT Jun 2012 #139

Jesus Christ, I come in to see how JTFrog's thread is going and sufrommich Jun 2012 #143

ignore so they will go and leave us alone. try to stop the lies so they dont attach. have a man seabeyond Jun 2012 #144

Thing is, the more we ignore Texasgal Jun 2012 #156

the more freaky they get. seabeyond Jun 2012 #157

I have the book... just haven't started it yet.. Texasgal Jun 2012 #159

I agree. It seems to be open season on feminists. The war on women encourages them I guess. LiberalLoner Jun 2012 #145

we are not wanted, we do not matter. seabeyond Jun 2012 #147

We do good at kicking tail when they come here to bully though. :) You guys rock! LiberalLoner Jun 2012 #148

ya, but seabeyond Jun 2012 #149

OK now that's funny. MadrasT Jun 2012 #150

Yeah, it happens in the atheist forum JNelson6563 Jun 2012 #163

You can read their meta posts about it. It was obvious shit flinging. boston bean Jun 2012 #164

I support each group's choices. JNelson6563 Jun 2012 #165

yup seabeyond Jun 2012 #166

This has been going on for several months now Major Hogwash Jun 2012 #167

Bail if you must ((hug)) MerryBlooms Jun 2012 #168

I am so sorry to see you go Number23 Jun 2012 #199

sorry to see you go, but I totally understand TorchTheWitch Jun 2012 #201