History of Feminism

hifiguy

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20. It's still one comment in a 70 year career.

Thu Aug 9, 2012, 11:50 AM

Aug 2012

That one comment does not devalue in the least his contributions to literature and politics. I am sure if your life was flyspecked the way you are flyspecking his, something equally nasty yet irrelevant could be used against you in a similar fashion.

And you are aware that Vidal was gay, aren't you?

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What is it with misogynists and child molestation/rape? [View all] redqueen Aug 2012 OP

They do not want to care DonCoquixote Aug 2012 #1

A lot of men really do think that no woman can possibly be raped SheilaT Aug 2012 #2

There are a lot ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2012 #54

How truly sad. SheilaT Aug 2012 #70

37 loli phabay Aug 2012 #3

loli phabay hlthe2b Aug 2012 #4

no its not disruption its a genuine question that was inpired in some way from posts loli phabay Aug 2012 #6

No one has ever stated unequivocally that ALL men are rapists. I can only conclude your saying so.. hlthe2b Aug 2012 #8

You might need to work on your comprehension. redqueen Aug 2012 #5

my issue is it seems as if you are painting all guys with the same brush loli phabay Aug 2012 #7

Where are you getting "all" from? nt redqueen Aug 2012 #9

re: hlthe2b Aug 2012 #10

Dear Men Who Lurk MadrasT Aug 2012 #11

LOL ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2012 #58

ah, so true. nt seabeyond Aug 2012 #62

LMFAO... redqueen Aug 2012 #64

Like I said ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2012 #66

that is such an excellent damn GROWN UP point. lol. thank you for saying this, this way seabeyond Aug 2012 #67

Heh ismnotwasm Aug 2012 #59

what does 37 mean? i think if you are honestly looking at the subject you will see seabeyond Aug 2012 #13

i remember a thread on a 12 yr old caught in a strip bar. so many excusing that 12 looks 18. seabeyond Aug 2012 #12

Too many men not speaking against it when those opinions are voiced. redqueen Aug 2012 #14

I, once, ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2012 #61

The one ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2012 #60

i didnt see that one. but, yes. thos would be the joke that allows the conditioning seabeyond Aug 2012 #63

Vidal lived a long life. He wrote many books, hundreds of essays hifiguy Aug 2012 #15

and to ignore what he says is certainly dismissive. nt seabeyond Aug 2012 #16

Show me one person who hasn't said something stupid or hifiguy Aug 2012 #18

and to not reflect on what the man is saying, and the cost to society is seabeyond Aug 2012 #22

btw... the thread you just put up? pretty damn petty. nt seabeyond Aug 2012 #17

He was/did all that, and he also thought raping children was no big deal. redqueen Aug 2012 #19

It's still one comment in a 70 year career. hifiguy Aug 2012 #20

It is one extremely disturbing comment. redqueen Aug 2012 #21

paterno merely dismissed boys being raped but had a HISTORY of tons of charitable and good work. seabeyond Aug 2012 #23

Paterno ignored a serial pedophile and rapist hifiguy Aug 2012 #24

no. society and our voice is what directs the right and wrong. reducing the girl to a hooker and seabeyond Aug 2012 #25

Wow. hifiguy Aug 2012 #29

i am strong believer in personal responsibility, ownership, my part in speaking out for those abused seabeyond Aug 2012 #31

Ah, guilt is collective. hifiguy Aug 2012 #33

no. you obviously do not get it. where did i say anything about "guilt". do tell? seabeyond Aug 2012 #35

No. It takes a village, and the village has been too quiet in schooling men redqueen Aug 2012 #40

Responsibility is collective. ismnotwasm Aug 2012 #65

What does Vidal's sexuality have to do with anything. redqueen Aug 2012 #26

It's not his sexuality that matters, but rather how society considered his sexuality for most of his hedgehog Aug 2012 #27

Bingo. hifiguy Aug 2012 #30

then should we not all call out that his comment was abhorrent? since you give him... that his seabeyond Aug 2012 #34

Didn't say that. hifiguy Aug 2012 #36

so when people with a voice spout out that raping a 13 yr old hooker does not warrant attention, seabeyond Aug 2012 #37

Vidal made that remark a long time ago. hifiguy Aug 2012 #39

"No one ever said a thing about it around here until he passed." you would be wrong. seabeyond Aug 2012 #44

This thread is not about Gore Vidal and forgiving him for demonizing children who were raped. redqueen Aug 2012 #42

Somehow I expect that most people, gay and straight, redqueen Aug 2012 #32

This poster has been blocked from the group. boston bean Aug 2012 #68

you are good hosts.... and dont you ever think otherwise. nt seabeyond Aug 2012 #69

When you consider that the majority of child molestation is done to girls in thier own home, spotlight Aug 2012 #28

"asking if this is generally condoned by other males " upaloopa Aug 2012 #38

Not about condoning. About the silence. redqueen Aug 2012 #43

My guess would be that Vidal said that a long time ago and if we do research we might find upaloopa Aug 2012 #46

shoot, this is one mere statement. so much, i dont know about the man. it might be a continued seabeyond Aug 2012 #48

Why are you guessing? redqueen Aug 2012 #49

I am old enough and wise enough to know that plenty of men are a holes. upaloopa Aug 2012 #53

I'm not the one under the mistaken impression that the OP is about "all men"... redqueen Aug 2012 #55

agreed. but i do not think most any of us say all. as a matter of fact, i am continually having to seabeyond Aug 2012 #56

i have come to think that men are so univested in the subject of rape that they are beyond clueless, seabeyond Aug 2012 #41

Boys are raped, too. redqueen Aug 2012 #45

yes. they are. and generally i hold them in part of my conversation. BUT.... this is about the seabeyond Aug 2012 #47

Yeah, I see your point. redqueen Aug 2012 #50

i was so all over those threads. lol. it was there. i was saying it repeatedly. and with dsk. seabeyond Aug 2012 #51

I don't know how I missed it... redqueen Aug 2012 #52

that is the issue. brand insisting a woman flash. that still has me pissed. a shrug.... that is seabeyond Aug 2012 #57