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Bernie Sanders

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totodeinhere

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Thu Apr 30, 2015, 10:31 PM Apr 2015

I keep seeing the following talking point. Bernie knows he can't win and he is in this only [View all]

Last edited Thu Apr 30, 2015, 11:11 PM - Edit history (1)

to push Hillary Clinton to the left.

We need to shoot that down as fast as we can. Bernie of course would love to see Hillary Clinton move to the left. But that's not why he is in this. He is in it to win. He entered the race because he believes he can win.

The latest PPP poll has Clinton at less than 50% in New Hampshire and Bernie in double digits and that was taken before Bernie had announced his candidacy. I look for the next poll to show Bernie in an even stronger position and as the voters get to know him better I look for his numbers to continue to improve. Remember that Clinton's strong name recognition has a lot to do with her lead in the polls and the leader in the polls this early in the campaign often falters.

If Bernie can have a respectable performance in Iowa and then either win New Hampshire or come close then it's off to the races. Eugene McCarthy knocked LBJ out of the race for the 1968 nomination with only a second place finish in New Hampshire. History can repeat itself. Hillary Clinton is considered so inevitable by some that it might be a liability. All Bernie has to so is make a respectable showing and he will show that Clinton is not invincible and then Bernie will have a real shot.

I need to edit this. I quoted the next to the latest poll. The latest poll has fluctuated as most polls do this early in the campaign.

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Link to the polling... Agschmid Apr 2015 #1
This has Clinton at less than 50% in New Hampshire. totodeinhere Apr 2015 #4
? Agschmid Apr 2015 #6
Two different polls. Polls this early will wildly fluctuate. n/t totodeinhere Apr 2015 #7
Your link appears to go to the same place as mine? Agschmid Apr 2015 #8
Hillary has been campaigning since 2006, if not earlier. Bernie just announced. merrily Apr 2015 #18
My problem with the talking point TM99 Apr 2015 #2
Her handlers are probably telling her that she needs to appear to be moving to the totodeinhere Apr 2015 #5
Sadly, I think too many will buy it. TM99 Apr 2015 #10
What I don't understand is why they think that is even a real choice to have to make Dragonfli Apr 2015 #12
Exactly! TM99 Apr 2015 #15
eh, we bought it from obama, so why not from hillary lol nt msongs Apr 2015 #13
Mine is similar. Elections, esp. Presidentials, have become so hoked up, I cannot trust merrily Apr 2015 #19
+ 1000 !!! orpupilofnature57 May 2015 #28
Another talking point is that Hillary is already as liberal as Bernie (and always merrily May 2015 #22
No kidding. TM99 May 2015 #24
Apparently, DLC and Third Way have been trivialized to "bogeymen." merrily May 2015 #25
It makes zero sense MannyGoldstein Apr 2015 #3
The M$M and some progressive radio is doing it too. It is not reporting, it is a campaign tactic GoneFishin Apr 2015 #9
MSNBC and "progressive" radio are establishment. Hillary is the establishment candidate. merrily May 2015 #21
Bernie can bring right and left together more than anyone since President Obama ran. mahina Apr 2015 #11
Amen! BrotherIvan Apr 2015 #14
Thank you. I imagine we will be hearing a lot of "mind reading" and "prophesy." merrily Apr 2015 #16
Maybe he's not trying to push her left DJ13 Apr 2015 #17
He thought about it very long and hard. Those of us who follow him know this. Cleita May 2015 #20
I think he feels he has to, if the country is not going to descend further into merrily May 2015 #23
It's easy to shoot down; you can't "move to the left" just like that. Scootaloo May 2015 #26
"move to the left" is pandering. It doesn't really mean they ARE left. L0oniX May 2015 #30
This is like a juror who plays the role of a lawyer, Just vote . And orpupilofnature57 May 2015 #27
You either have been and are left (which is really the old Dem center) or your pandering. L0oniX May 2015 #29
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