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Dustlawyer

(10,538 posts)
Sun Jul 12, 2015, 10:48 PM Jul 2015

Just got axed from the $HRC$ group for posting a sarcastic comment. [View all]

This discussion thread was locked as off-topic by TM99 (a host of the Bernie Sanders group).

I admit it was sarcastic, but I was making a point. I did not make a personal attack on anyone there, but I felt I had to do it. You see, they were all trying to justify all of the money she has raised with all of the expected arguements. "It's UNFORTUNATE that it takes a lot of money from campaign donations and Super Pacs, but..." or "it's naive to think of running for POTUS without taking corporate money because, you know, the clown car Republicans all have their own billionaires..."

"Unfortunate" "the others are doing it," please! I had to point out that Hillary with her name recognition would do fine on what Bernie is raising. She could still pick and choose her interviews that she gives, getting free publicity anytime she wanted. She didn't need corporate money to win, but she wanted it! They act like our campaign system is dirty, but what can we do?

Positive change doesn't just happen, you have to take some risk. Do they think the Founding Fathers said, "Hey, this thing with England sucks, but what can we do?" Hillary is a creature of our corrupt political system. She knows all of the wealthiest people in the world. She knows that she has to give a Quid Pro Quo for the money she is collecting, and it will be at OUR EXPENSE! That right there should be enough to tell you that she doesn't really give a shit about us!

I also have a problem with these groups, the HRC group, Bernie group... Do we really want an area where like minded people only can discuss what they already agree on? I am a Bernie supporter 100%, and I do like to hear from other like minded people, however, I am not adverse to someone else making an arguement about something I may not agree on. Example, some have a problem with Bernie's stance towards guns. I would not get upset at some HRC supporter making this arguement if that's what they did. I may learn something I didn't know before. I do mind snark and personal attacks, just not arguments on the merits. To be honest, sarcasm may have crossed the line anyway, but it was the best way that I could point out what they were doing, which was making a lot of excuses for Hillary taking more bribe money than anyone else in this election. They were clearly defensive about it, but we're trying to act like everyone does it and there is nothing that can be done to stop it. It's galling when they act like we are powerless to oppose the corruption of campaign bribes when we have someone who IS DOING IT! Bernie would be a lock for POTUS if all Democrats decided that this was the election where we could return to Representative Democracy instead of going deeper into fascism.

Despite being here at DU for several years, the Bernie Group is the first group I have joined. Is it an official rule that you cannot argue against the candidate of a group if done respectfully and limited to an issue? I want to know if my being banned from commenting in the HRC group for violation of the rules, or was it because I struck a nerve?

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So, you were attacking Hillary in the Hill-Hole Demeter Jul 2015 #1
First time that's happened MannyGoldstein Jul 2015 #2
Oh it happened to me months ago. At first I was butthurt. silvershadow Jul 2015 #3
Can we watch through the window? n/t SusanaMontana41 Jul 2015 #24
Money in politics is for the first time going to be a huge issue in this campaign. Bernie is sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #4
What we are trying to avoid here TM99 Jul 2015 #5
+1 daleanime Jul 2015 #11
I think groups exist for the purpose of allowing members to support each other and have discussions merrily Jul 2015 #30
It sounds like you and I are in agreement TM99 Jul 2015 #35
You realize that you are a member of a not very exclusive club tularetom Jul 2015 #6
Dustlawyer is in good company - they've (the HRC group) even banned Omaha Steve. kath Jul 2015 #10
Are you saying OS is banned from DU or just HRC group? snagglepuss Jul 2015 #15
From the HRC group. Very sorry I wasn't more clear. kath Jul 2015 #18
They banned Omaha Steve? awoke_in_2003 Jul 2015 #22
it's not unusual... bbgrunt Jul 2015 #7
TOS rpannier Jul 2015 #8
I did it the other way round. SoapBox Jul 2015 #9
I did as well. Sherman A1 Jul 2015 #32
Someone talking about this thread says you're a "dink" progree Jul 2015 #12
That someone sports a Bernie avatar. delrem Jul 2015 #23
If it's anything like the BOG it's a badge of honor. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2015 #13
Gort booted from the bog back in 2013 Scootaloo Jul 2015 #27
I got booted by pointing out that it was hypocritical of Republicans to criticize "Obamacare"... Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2015 #28
This was my DIY fix back in april. I've seen much less Discussionist garbage since Scootaloo Jul 2015 #14
I tried using trash forum a week or so ago, and it didn't work for me passiveporcupine Jul 2015 #21
My observation on DU members: Binkie The Clown Jul 2015 #16
Good advice, Binkie. (But your avatar is terrifying.) senz Jul 2015 #19
I posted a sincere message re the evolution of my opinion of Hillary senz Jul 2015 #17
You could have posted the same material--and still can--in GD Primary. merrily Jul 2015 #31
Bravo, JackInGreen Jul 2015 #20
Every group bears this heading: merrily Jul 2015 #25
It helps if you remember Hillary is not the enemy. Kalidurga Jul 2015 #26
I have a concern with this too passiveporcupine Jul 2015 #29
Thanks for your efforts dreamnightwind Jul 2015 #33
This banning, alerting, tattling seems so juvenile to me. democrank Jul 2015 #34
Me, too vt_native Jul 2015 #36
Sorry y'all, this is just getting TM99 Jul 2015 #37
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