Bernie Sanders

OffWithTheirHeads

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56. First, thanks for keeping this conversation civil. Reminds me of DU back in the day.

Mon Jul 20, 2015, 06:33 PM

Jul 2015

I read the list of grievences. I read the list of femands. I did not see the list of solutions yet you expect Bernie to come up with solutions NOW. Sadly, the realpolitic is that Bernie cannot run a Presidential campaign just on the demands of BLM. He needs to run a campaign on (unfortunatly) soundbites that appeal to as many people as possible, not just BLM. I'm sorry this is the way our system works, I wish it was better but the reality is that this is how it is. BLM shoul be working with Bernie on real solutions. They can't expect him to solve all the problems of injustice in this country by himself. It is simply not realistic to present a list of demands without offering constructive ways to achieve these demands. Bernie is not God. He can't wave a wand and fix everything. He is going to need our help. We need to be helping him, not yelling at him.

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If you are willing to hear the BLM grievances [View all] artislife Jul 2015 OP

Listening. onecaliberal Jul 2015 #1

Thank you artislife Jul 2015 #2

We're all on the same team. onecaliberal Jul 2015 #3

Been listening. MuseRider Jul 2015 #4

I agree! If Bernie needs a fainting couch after BLM protest then he isn't the man we know he is... Left coast liberal Jul 2015 #5

That image is priceless! artislife Jul 2015 #8

PotatoChip posted excerpts from their 'State of the Black Union' page in another thread. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 #6

Thank you for sharing this list artislife Jul 2015 #10

The automatic response to any challenge needs to be 'What is the opportunity I am being given?' Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 #15

Why are we waiting for the "next' president? How many deaths between now and 2017 Autumn Jul 2015 #88

This what I have on the number of demonstrations artislife Jul 2015 #95

Are they protesting President Obama and AG Lynch? Autumn Jul 2015 #97

I didn't see it, but I didn't go through all 27 pages artislife Jul 2015 #99

Who seems to disagree? BLM disagrees with protesting Obama and Lynch? Autumn Jul 2015 #106

No I meant they seem to disagree artislife Jul 2015 #111

We need to hear more about the proposals to change this unacceptable situation. JDPriestly Jul 2015 #141

So 966 demonstrations and the murders continue. aspirant Jul 2015 #105

Gosh the body of your post is not what I was expecting from your title. artislife Jul 2015 #107

No one is saying the President and AG should be the ONLY people petitioned. stranger81 Jul 2015 #113

No. There are three people who should be protested. Among Autumn Jul 2015 #114

Uncle artislife Jul 2015 #117

This is a joke, right aspirant Jul 2015 #123

It is not my way or the highway artislife Jul 2015 #126

"allowed" me to speak, aspirant Jul 2015 #131

I give up artislife Jul 2015 #135

966??? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 #144

Thank you. jwirr Jul 2015 #70

Thanks for sharing this. TM99 Jul 2015 #142

Yes we really are on the same team artislife Jul 2015 #7

I applaud BLM and agree that we need action on this crucial matter NOW. Maedhros Jul 2015 #9

I hear you artislife Jul 2015 #11

I'm working on that. [n/t] Maedhros Jul 2015 #14

I want to listen but can not hear because of the very loud... madfloridian Jul 2015 #12

I love your passion for Bernie artislife Jul 2015 #19

It needs to get out of the personal arena. madfloridian Jul 2015 #28

Yes it does artislife Jul 2015 #34

I want to believe you're right about the motivations here. stranger81 Jul 2015 #85

I don't think they are happy with Hillary either artislife Jul 2015 #86

^this^! 2banon Jul 2015 #63

Oh my God. That's very disturbing. historylovr Jul 2015 #89

It was very scary for a few weeks, no thanks to the delayed medical attention 2banon Jul 2015 #91

I'm very glad to hear she's recovering. I'll keep her in my thoughts. historylovr Jul 2015 #93

thanks for kind words.. 2banon Jul 2015 #96

Blocking emergency enterances is very not acceptable artislife Jul 2015 #102

"bunch of agendas in every protest group" aspirant Jul 2015 #108

What if? artislife Jul 2015 #112

Let's believe in "Hope and Change" aspirant Jul 2015 #127

I did. artislife Jul 2015 #130

What did he deliver as far as black unemployment, aspirant Jul 2015 #133

So sorry. Hope she got the care she needed. madfloridian Jul 2015 #129

I agree. I think Bernie knows how to handle himself. I'm not worried about him. Tobin S. Jul 2015 #13

Thank you artislife Jul 2015 #21

I know what their grievences are. You have to be living in a cave not to. OffWithTheirHeads Jul 2015 #16

I believe if you look up thread you will see a list artislife Jul 2015 #22

O.K. I looked at the list. I don't think there is one thing on the list that Bernie disagrees with. OffWithTheirHeads Jul 2015 #47

Well they want to believe he agrees with them specifically artislife Jul 2015 #48

First, thanks for keeping this conversation civil. Reminds me of DU back in the day. OffWithTheirHeads Jul 2015 #56

I believe in civil unrest but also civil exchange! artislife Jul 2015 #57

Again, thank you for this civil conversation. OffWithTheirHeads Jul 2015 #75

Gee...thanks *blush artislife Jul 2015 #77

It is not about grievances. BLM had the perfect opportunity to snagglepuss Jul 2015 #58

I respectfully disagree nt artislife Jul 2015 #59

Is BLM also working with Hillary on a plan? She's the front runner candidate and not appalachiablue Jul 2015 #74

To answer your first question and more artislife Jul 2015 #76

This all is happening under Obamas watch aspirant Jul 2015 #78

I cannot answer that nt artislife Jul 2015 #79

Why can't you? aspirant Jul 2015 #82

This feels combative and reaching into off topic. artislife Jul 2015 #84

If you can't even give any answer aspirant Jul 2015 #87

Thank you Kenjie Jul 2015 #33

I was paying attention... HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #17

I am sorry to hear that. artislife Jul 2015 #23

Well that's shameful. marym625 Jul 2015 #25

My support isn't wanted. HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #29

What? marym625 Jul 2015 #35

I'm a "white progressive". HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #37

Yeah, marym625 Jul 2015 #39

On the contrary artislife Jul 2015 #42

What did I say contrary to what you just said? marym625 Jul 2015 #45

Replied to wrong post...sorry! artislife Jul 2015 #46

No worries marym625 Jul 2015 #50

:) artislife Jul 2015 #53

That's me falling down drunk marym625 Jul 2015 #54

Trust me, he heard it correctly. madfloridian Jul 2015 #132

I can only imagine the slugfests he's had to endure over his political life. Snotcicles Jul 2015 #18

I'm listening marym625 Jul 2015 #20

I remember reading artislife Jul 2015 #26

Thank you marym625 Jul 2015 #30

Well, I am a noble savage artislife Jul 2015 #38

I cannot say it often enough: sadoldgirl Jul 2015 #24

Yes it can be a PoC issue artislife Jul 2015 #27

+1bazillion! marym625 Jul 2015 #31

When I heard the uproar about the death of Trayvon Martin I thought things would change think Jul 2015 #32

Excellent artislife Jul 2015 #36

Listening, and supporting the protests... MerryBlooms Jul 2015 #40

YES!!! artislife Jul 2015 #43

Can everyone tell me the names of both women TBF Jul 2015 #41

Thank you thank you thank you artislife Jul 2015 #44

They just posted Blow's OPEd this afternoon - TBF Jul 2015 #49

+1 n/t Admiral Loinpresser Jul 2015 #62

Another well stated post. blm Jul 2015 #51

undefensive listening rbnyc Jul 2015 #52

I have asked and listened ybbor Jul 2015 #55

Bravenak was the one that made yesterday fun artislife Jul 2015 #61

The actual name is Erich Bloodaxe BSN ybbor Jul 2015 #64

I do that name...I didn't recognize the nick name! artislife Jul 2015 #65

I hate to think.... madfloridian Jul 2015 #71

I don't recall her responses to you artislife Jul 2015 #72

I have built a good reputation here overall. madfloridian Jul 2015 #73

" I try to take my perspective out" aspirant Jul 2015 #80

I read the exchange she pointed me to artislife Jul 2015 #81

The other side aspirant Jul 2015 #83

Someone actually just defended me after those attacks. madfloridian Jul 2015 #137

... nenagh Jul 2015 #140

I feel your pain. Vattel Jul 2015 #146

I am tired of being shamed for being white. madfloridian Jul 2015 #147

Try not to be too discouraged by it. Vattel Jul 2015 #148

You might be on to something. historylovr Jul 2015 #150

Thank you for this valuable, level headed thread. annabanana Jul 2015 #60

Good post. I wouldn't even say they heckled him. They challenged him to stand up. Cheese Sandwich Jul 2015 #66

The founder openly said in an interview that the candidates were not "humble enough".. madfloridian Jul 2015 #67

We are going to have to agree to disagree on this artislife Jul 2015 #69

I hear you Mad. TM99 Jul 2015 #104

You are on to something with the generational communication artislife Jul 2015 #119

That not "humble enough" bullshit really pissed me off. Autumn Jul 2015 #121

K&R BlackLivesMatter. jwirr Jul 2015 #68

I know, the situation is dire and people are being murdered Autumn Jul 2015 #90

+1,000,000 historylovr Jul 2015 #92

Spot On Autumn. 2banon Jul 2015 #98

I'm getting sick and tired of some of the people here fucking whining about Bernie Autumn Jul 2015 #103

Exactly. 2banon Jul 2015 #109

Getting a lot of crickets when you ask uncomfortable question are you? Autumn Jul 2015 #110

No I had to walk 3 dogs and go and feed a cat artislife Jul 2015 #115

I'm not talking about you and I'm certainly not angry at you. Autumn Jul 2015 #118

We are getting more than we should artislife Jul 2015 #122

Well.. I think we know why. 2banon Jul 2015 #116

In a way, it is a form a flattery artislife Jul 2015 #120

Then their leader's promise to "shut down every debate" came with an asterisk. historylovr Jul 2015 #145

Listening vive la commune Jul 2015 #94

I hear you loud and clear. InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2015 #100

You are not the only one. TM99 Jul 2015 #101

Thank you artislife Jul 2015 #124

You are not. TM99 Jul 2015 #125

Well thought out. artislife Jul 2015 #128

" Please comment if you are listening or ready to listen." merrily Jul 2015 #134

good night artislife Jul 2015 #136

The only point I would make is if you invite someone to a town hall for a dialog, and prevent that still_one Jul 2015 #138

Wanna buy a bridge? nt Zorra Jul 2015 #139

I'm ready for minority outreach duty otherone Jul 2015 #143

My advice to me today artislife Jul 2015 #149

spot fucking-on! ibegurpard Jul 2015 #151

This is critical, both to the nation and to Sander's campaign. LWolf Jul 2015 #152