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166. What does one do when they blatantly lie about Bernie?

Mon Aug 24, 2015, 03:25 PM

Aug 2015

Just a few minutes ago, I saw two anti-Bernie lies, one repeated several times, in subject lines in the otherwise good thread "Sanders quickly makes changes when challenged by BLM. Clinton wags her finger. Whose out of step?" original post by Bernie supporter Armstead.

The lies were by supporters of Bernie's primary opponent. I tried to correct the lies, also in subject lines, but you cannot imagine my anger at such an openly shameful, scuzzy tactic. The main meme they're perpetrating is that Bernie talked over the BLM protesters and then left the stage. I saw the video; that is not what happened. Bernie relinquished the mic, stepped back, stayed on stage while the demonstrators talked/screamed, and bowed his head during the moment of silence.

A meme repeated often enough becomes reality.

Is there a preferred way of dealing with a tactic like this?

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Be careful when responding to Hillary supporters' posts. [View all] JDPriestly Aug 2015 OP

Got it! retrowire Aug 2015 #1

We need more progressives helping out in MIRT and the Host's Forum. Just sayin'. nm rhett o rick Aug 2015 #89

More Reasons Hillary Alienates Us billhicks76 Aug 2015 #95

Um, reread the good advice , .. PosterChild Aug 2015 #96

Well at least you have a good sense of humor. That's a great start anyway. JDPriestly Aug 2015 #116

Oh! I get it! You aren't really a Bernie Sanders Supporter. chknltl Aug 2015 #122

Ha. Where Did Deduce That? billhicks76 Aug 2015 #123

Deduction was simple, response is difficult: chknltl Aug 2015 #126

I Want To Like Her billhicks76 Aug 2015 #130

One DUer at a time, I still have hope for us. chknltl Aug 2015 #170

I Use Hyperbole billhicks76 Aug 2015 #171

Yes, I saw one of you posts hidden the other day & it was RIDICULOUS. 7962 Aug 2015 #163

Good advice. One more, don't try/expect to change minds n2doc Aug 2015 #2

As reality asserts itself, the reasonable minds will change Demeter Aug 2015 #18

When attacked simply ask them about issues. That always scares them off. nm rhett o rick Aug 2015 #45

You're always changing minds. RichVRichV Aug 2015 #80

That is very true, and it's good to keep focus on this as we present our political arguments. nt stillwaiting Aug 2015 #83

+1 tjl148 Aug 2015 #98

Thank you. Excellent post. This is about ideas, not personal vendettas. JDPriestly Aug 2015 #143

One more, don't kick anti-Bernie threads. Ignore them and post your own positive Bernie thread. sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #3

^^^this. artislife Aug 2015 #13

Lol, 'read their posts in funny accents, imagine them in their underwear' ~ sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #26

Just ignore them is the best advice. emsimon33 Aug 2015 #42

Good point! cui bono Aug 2015 #25

Great point. nm rhett o rick Aug 2015 #46

Ignore, for sure. MNBrewer Aug 2015 #55

Stay in the Bernie Group! SoapBox Aug 2015 #4

Excellent Advice.... LovingA2andMI Aug 2015 #5

Very good advice. zeemike Aug 2015 #6

Great advice, JD! Dont call me Shirley Aug 2015 #7

Happy to support this. longship Aug 2015 #8

I'm not going to insult any Democrat. Lunabell Aug 2015 #9

More general, more long-term, tips. merrily Aug 2015 #10

Good to read! TY artislife Aug 2015 #15

You're very welcome. merrily Aug 2015 #21

Perfectly said! arcane1 Aug 2015 #11

Good advice. I'll try to control myself.... Enthusiast Aug 2015 #12

Thanks.... daleanime Aug 2015 #14

Better yet, Ignore them assiduously Demeter Aug 2015 #16

Thanks. Also good advice. JDPriestly Aug 2015 #145

Yep. Treat them as you would treat trolls, hifiguy Aug 2015 #155

EXCELLENT advice! CaliforniaPeggy Aug 2015 #17

When you are in a conversation with someone who just wants a fight passiveporcupine Aug 2015 #49

Haha that's me Generic Other Aug 2015 #141

Or respond like you want to, just don't post it! glowing Aug 2015 #73

Oh, the many posts I have self-deleted before posting. Also, very good advice. JDPriestly Aug 2015 #147

And excellent advice yourself. It's not easy but I will try harder. rhett o rick Aug 2015 #88

Yes, keep the focus on the issues. Posting where candidates stand on issues is not bashing. sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #144

I will try. nm rhett o rick Aug 2015 #154

I do the same thing, and I very rarely LuvNewcastle Aug 2015 #99

You are one of the most loved DUers, CaliforniaPeggy, just because you know how to diffuse JDPriestly Aug 2015 #146

+1 hifiguy Aug 2015 #157

What a lovely thing for you to say, my dear JDPriestly...thank you! CaliforniaPeggy Aug 2015 #164

Bernie himself is our example. silverweb Aug 2015 #19

Yes! JDPriestly Aug 2015 #148

:) silverweb Aug 2015 #150

There are wolves Omaha Steve Aug 2015 #20

One of the more notable anti-Bernie individuals was even caught in the act of hifiguy Aug 2015 #161

Timely advice Fairgo Aug 2015 #22

Good strategy. JDPriestly Aug 2015 #48

Great advice. This has been alerted as Meta but I am not inclined to lock it Autumn Aug 2015 #23

The alerter Puglover Aug 2015 #28

That was the 1st SOP alert, the second one called this a Meta post and asked for it to be locked and smokey nj Aug 2015 #30

This IS posted in the Bernie Sanders group. That's what it says on my DU page. JDPriestly Aug 2015 #51

I know. I know. smokey nj Aug 2015 #54

Well...what the hell? SoapBox Aug 2015 #85

It went to a jury too? hootinholler Aug 2015 #34

No jury as far as I know - just SOP alerts sent by smokey nj Aug 2015 #36

Lawd Bejeebus... LovingA2andMI Aug 2015 #53

Excellent advice. Paka Aug 2015 #24

Bernie is suggesting that we shift a bit toward a European economic model. JDPriestly Aug 2015 #149

I'm sorry but why should I listen to a Warren supporter telling Bernie supporters how to post? cui bono Aug 2015 #27

My question is... gregcrawford Aug 2015 #29

WHY do you assume that people ARE pulling underhanded sunts? Why.... Moonwalk Aug 2015 #59

I am not assuming anything. gregcrawford Aug 2015 #65

Most Hillary supporters are civil. JDPriestly Aug 2015 #66

........ LovingA2andMI Aug 2015 #67

No, you don't see posts saying "Hillary is awful" You do see posts saying-- eridani Aug 2015 #92

The statements you cite JDPriestly Aug 2015 #152

Good Advice - Always Use The Third Person Passive Voice cantbeserious Aug 2015 #31

This is excellent advice Blue_In_AK Aug 2015 #32

Interesting thread ... Jarqui Aug 2015 #33

Hi, who were you before? I'd like to see what you are talking about. uppityperson Aug 2015 #43

The same principles in my OP apply to Hillary supporters. JDPriestly Aug 2015 #56

Wow classykaren Aug 2015 #129

It's okay when they do it to us though?!?! RoccoR5955 Aug 2015 #35

Just ignore them. We know the truth. emsimon33 Aug 2015 #39

I am not of the type to ignore things. RoccoR5955 Aug 2015 #40

But I don't want to see you alerted and then blackballed emsimon33 Aug 2015 #44

Great advice but it isn't just the Hillary crowd emsimon33 Aug 2015 #37

Everybody needs to take a deep breath and count to ten. Arguments are great, but don't make JDPriestly Aug 2015 #57

"most of us know who the stalkers are"...... bbgrunt Aug 2015 #160

Regardless of candidate... dvduval Aug 2015 #38

i guess if this is becoming a hillary site 2pooped2pop Aug 2015 #41

A Hilary site? Every time I come here the home page is Bernie threads.... Moonwalk Aug 2015 #47

oh cool. If only the msm would do the same 2pooped2pop Aug 2015 #50

This group is for supporters of Bernie Sanders. smokey nj Aug 2015 #52

Hey I responded to a Hillary front page article and found StoneCarver Aug 2015 #58

Well at this time they are allowed on the front page. You can see when you post Autumn Aug 2015 #60

I'm never disrespectful of Bernie. But I see in a lot of Bernie/Hilary threads... Moonwalk Aug 2015 #61

We don't edit posts, only the poster can edit their posts. Autumn Aug 2015 #63

You are, however, disrespectful of his supporters. smokey nj Aug 2015 #64

Beat me to it Autumn Aug 2015 #71

... smokey nj Aug 2015 #74

This message was self-deleted by its author Vincardog Aug 2015 #101

How the hell is my post disrespectful? smokey nj Aug 2015 #103

I was pointing out the OP's recomendation that we attack actions not people. I am working on Vincardog Aug 2015 #108

I don't think the offense was unintended. smokey nj Aug 2015 #111

What I posted was just fine, thanks. Your advice is unnecessary and unwelcome. smokey nj Aug 2015 #138

Uh, just curious LiberalElite Aug 2015 #68

Not Bernie when you check out the posts. Smokey blocked them Autumn Aug 2015 #72

That's what I was just looking at - LiberalElite Aug 2015 #75

Strange how that happens Autumn Aug 2015 #76

I think your posts are find, but I am not in charge of this site. JDPriestly Aug 2015 #78

You said it well. "Democracy is about respectful dialog.? JDPriestly Aug 2015 #77

Good post. TexasMommaWithAHat Aug 2015 #139

it IS curiously easy to swamp them with CSPAN videos of Sanders talking about the issue MisterP Aug 2015 #62

Good advice libodem Aug 2015 #69

Love your visual. Great. Please post it as an OP. It is wonderful. JDPriestly Aug 2015 #156

I'd love to libodem Aug 2015 #168

HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Aug 2015 #70

Keep in mind too that outside of the DU bubble no one cares what DUers say. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #79

Somebody posted an article by Sarah Jones, called Berniacs "Elitist White Progressives". HappyPlace Aug 2015 #81

Update your jury blacklist. MerryBlooms Aug 2015 #82

Or better yet just call divisive bullshit nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #84

I have to remember that one, nadin... MrMickeysMom Aug 2015 #106

I know at one time we were able to discussi policy nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #107

Well, I'm ready to discuss policy� MrMickeysMom Aug 2015 #109

Shall we compare city budgets? nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #110

I think we should compare the folks in charge now who don't know how to read through one... MrMickeysMom Aug 2015 #112

Estimate from the United States Census for this fiscal year nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #113

Just imagine if everyone's race didn't matter� but it does MrMickeysMom Aug 2015 #114

And there is a lot of it that has to do with nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #115

Great article at the link. Thanks. JDPriestly Aug 2015 #162

Touche! jkbRN Aug 2015 #86

I think it's a real shame that we are forced to weigh every word carefully in an effort totodeinhere Aug 2015 #87

Post removed Post removed Aug 2015 #90

Good tips regardless of affiliation. blackspade Aug 2015 #91

And do not blow off fears about "electability" eridani Aug 2015 #93

I agree 100% relayerbob Aug 2015 #94

This was alerted on by a Hillary group member. They are alert trolling this group. L0oniX Aug 2015 #97

P.U.M.A. Zombies Back From The Dead! wolfie001 Aug 2015 #100

Zombeavers pretty much killed my interest in zombies of all type. L0oniX Aug 2015 #102

What a crazy thing to do, to alert on this post. Desperation. I'm really sorry for the people JDPriestly Aug 2015 #119

Excellent OP with lots of excellent posts. Thank you Catherina Aug 2015 #104

Just saw this not too long ago d_legendary1 Aug 2015 #105

Ooo. Look. Divide and Conquer now in the Greatest. McCamy Taylor Aug 2015 #117

Hopefully, Hillary supporters will also read my advice and then we will have more solidarity. JDPriestly Aug 2015 #118

Then take it up with Skinner, he can change that. This group is for supporters of Bernie Autumn Aug 2015 #136

This is so stupid... Chicago1980 Aug 2015 #120

Part of the way we do this... jeff47 Aug 2015 #137

Some good advice, not that it makes any difference to their campaigns. L. Coyote Aug 2015 #121

Much as I like Elizabeth Warren, I seriously doubt that Biden is going to attract very many JDPriestly Aug 2015 #165

I'm pretty sure I got hit with that about a month ago via DU mail. C Moon Aug 2015 #124

Perhaps utilizing the ignore feature or just not responding to her supporters may be the best Perry Smith Aug 2015 #125

Avoid the words "coronation" "entitled" "politician" "tool of the corporations" "self-anointed" CBGLuthier Aug 2015 #127

Thank you. classykaren Aug 2015 #128

I was banned from the Hillary group for pointing out the obvious 4dsc Aug 2015 #131

Great post! Bubzer Aug 2015 #132

Good advise karynnj Aug 2015 #133

No swearing? lonestarnot Aug 2015 #134

Some additional thoughts. Kurska Aug 2015 #135

Excellent advice! Please post it as a separate OP beacause a lot of people won't read it JDPriestly Aug 2015 #142

Huh? DownriverDem Aug 2015 #140

"maybe you are a repub"? Did you really just post that? arcane1 Aug 2015 #151

This really is not the place for The Pledge-y Thang. djean111 Aug 2015 #153

happened to me at Daily Kos ish of the hammer Aug 2015 #158

Worthwhile remembering this. eom Duval Aug 2015 #159

What does one do when they blatantly lie about Bernie? senz Aug 2015 #166

#1 will never work for me Le Taz Hot Aug 2015 #167

Thanks for the advices. mylye2222 Aug 2015 #169

Just focus on the fact that we have such a great candidate. JDPriestly Aug 2015 #172