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Kurska

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Mon Aug 24, 2015, 04:14 PM Aug 2015

Warning to Sanders supporters: How to identify alert baiting and avoid it. [View all]

Last edited Mon Aug 24, 2015, 06:49 PM - Edit history (2)

I am noticing this employed a lot against Pro-Bernie folks so I just wanted to pass on a word of warning. A lot of people are intentionally skirting the edge of what is hide-able to try and bait out a response. They can be very good at this and know where the line is for most juries. I've seen a lot of posters get baited like this, respond in kind with a personal attack and get hidden. Realize that if someone is just barely not engaging in personal attacks, it might be they are trying to bait you. Such people are the first ones to hammer the report button the minute you slip up. That is the end game and their argument "win condition", they want you to lose your cool and get hidden. The winning move is to ignore them and walk away. You can't reason with them, they are just waiting for that chance to slam the report button and see your post vanish.

A very classic tactic is that they'll find someone they agree with and talk very rudely about you. Obviously about you, but not mentioning you to avoid being hidden. You see this and you'll know, they are trying to troll you.

Don't rely on context to help you. Think of every post you make in isolation. Juries often won't look at the 7 rude responses to you, they'll see the one time you get mad and hide you. A lot of fine things will be hidden if they are taken out of context. The sad fact of the jury system is that juries often don't bother to read long comment trees and may just judge an individual post.

I think this is especially applicable here, because some of the absolute masters of this craft have taken to trolling Bernie Sanders supporters. Ain't gonna name names for obvious reasons, but just look out for it.

I have been on A LOT of juries where I see this and 90% of the time it is someone doing it to someone who supports Bernie sanders, so yes this is a real thing. They take advantage of the obvious passion of his supporters to twist it against them.

I posted this in another thread and someone suggested I make an OP. I hope this group is okay with that. If not, feel free to lock it.

on edit; oh god the horrible typos in the title, sorry about that.

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Ref's always pick-up.... daleanime Aug 2015 #1
Yup Kurska Aug 2015 #2
Done in the Gungeon a lot in the past, not as effective now. Eleanors38 Aug 2015 #29
Indeed. The other hallmark is one endless snark reply after another in a sub-thread villager Aug 2015 #3
Very much so, it is a huge part of the tactic. Kurska Aug 2015 #4
Another good point -- the "tag teaming" villager Aug 2015 #9
Yup and when they are talking to each other in a seperate but connected sub-thread Kurska Aug 2015 #11
My first and so far only one was just this exactly artislife Aug 2015 #12
Sometime the juries can't read anything about what else is going on because -none Aug 2015 #40
I call this the Robert Joseph strategy. n/t PowerToThePeople Aug 2015 #44
Thanks. Just stay cool. JDPriestly Aug 2015 #37
Good advice and worth taking to heart sarge43 Aug 2015 #5
In this case the pig runs to the cops and reports you for pig wrestling. Kurska Aug 2015 #6
And loves running to the cops. sarge43 Aug 2015 #7
100% Bullying Kurska Aug 2015 #8
Exactly! nt artislife Aug 2015 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author MerryBlooms Aug 2015 #48
Simple realy. If someone is raising your blood pressure they are just fucking with you OffWithTheirHeads Aug 2015 #10
I'm already missing 1/ 3 of the news, and more than 1/2 the comments...ignore has its limits HereSince1628 Aug 2015 #16
This is not a bug, but a feature nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #19
I scan for baiters... I Never reply to them V0ltairesGh0st Aug 2015 #13
Good op ...thanks. L0oniX Aug 2015 #14
Thanks, Kurska. eom Duval Aug 2015 #15
Good OP, K&R: (When you're ahead on points, you avoid the flailing opponent) Babel_17 Aug 2015 #17
Shiny :) n/t sarge43 Aug 2015 #22
lol (nt) Babel_17 Aug 2015 #24
Thanks so much. Great post. JDPriestly Aug 2015 #27
Agree 100%, I've been hidden twice for bullcrap Elmer S. E. Dump Aug 2015 #20
Same here. Enthusiast Aug 2015 #31
I have no idea. haikugal Aug 2015 #47
Not unless someone posts the results. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #50
Thanks Scottie... haikugal Aug 2015 #51
Alerting: Typos. klook Aug 2015 #21
Yes. JDPriestly Aug 2015 #26
Thanks. Good advice. We need every Bernie supporter on DU. JDPriestly Aug 2015 #23
Sociopathic passive-aggressiveness knows no political identity. Feeling the Bern Aug 2015 #25
good advice, and the thing to keep in mind is HFRN Aug 2015 #28
I don't think those should have been hidden. Enthusiast Aug 2015 #32
neither do I HFRN Aug 2015 #33
Excellent post, Kurska. Enthusiast Aug 2015 #30
Question in_cog_ni_to Aug 2015 #34
Answers for your questions Kurska Aug 2015 #36
Thank you! in_cog_ni_to Aug 2015 #43
How the jury system works: Curmudgeoness Aug 2015 #39
Thanks in_cog_ni_to Aug 2015 #42
Only one of a multitude of problems Curmudgeoness Aug 2015 #45
Know the ledge. frylock Aug 2015 #35
Thank you. 840high Aug 2015 #38
I don't usually get hidden or MuseRider Aug 2015 #41
Excellent OP. My approach is to totally ignore them Catherina Aug 2015 #46
Thank you Kurska. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #49
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