Bernie Sanders

JDPriestly

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76. Biden also has close ties to the banking and credit card industries. He is not a likely

Tue Aug 25, 2015, 03:13 AM

Aug 2015

winner of the Democratic nomination.

Someone compared Bernie to McGovern today.

I think Biden is more like McGovern, a nice guy, but lacking the strength to win the presidency.

Hillary is still drawing a lot of women's votes because we women would like to see a qualified woman president for once. (Hillary is, in my opinion, not qualified because of her record of mistakes of judgment.)

Biden would not even have that advantage for women.

Elizabeth Warren might make up for that, but Biden voted for the bankruptcy bill that has damaged the futures of students who can't pay their student loans off because the bankruptcy bill that Biden voted for blocks students from freeing themselves from their student loan debt in bankruptcy court.

Trump can take his corporations to Bankruptcy Court and dispose of his corporate debts, but students who owe on education loans cannot do that.

Biden voted for that. I don't think he is very believable when it comes to the disparity in wealth issue or regulating banks and creditors.

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Look at this hole the DNC has dug for itself [View all] fbc Aug 2015 OP

Like most simple solutions JackInGreen Aug 2015 #1

Well, we've got a ways to go. PatrickforO Aug 2015 #2

the media is so slow... fbc Aug 2015 #4

Don't kid yourself -- Warren is still a hugely popular whathehell Aug 2015 #32

She's popular because she is progressive. fbc Aug 2015 #33

That's the biggest, but not the only reason whathehell Aug 2015 #55

That's what I think zentrum Aug 2015 #85

Rumor is that Biden wants Warren for VP. merrily Aug 2015 #6

But how safely Dem is Warren's senate seat? thesquanderer Aug 2015 #18

Remember how long Scott Brown lasted. Kerry and Kennedy kept those seats for decades. merrily Aug 2015 #19

Oh, wait. The rumor is of a Biden-Warren ticket, not a Sanders-Warren ticket. merrily Aug 2015 #23

If Warren vacates Proud Liberal Dem Aug 2015 #28

True, which is one of many reasons Republican Governors are NOT okay, even if merrily Aug 2015 #60

I've been hoping Bernie could get her. Point. Set. Match. Elmer S. E. Dump Aug 2015 #34

Not I. I would rather see her in the Senate than as VP, be it Sanders' or Biden's. merrily Aug 2015 #62

If its required to win the presidency, I'd go with it. Elmer S. E. Dump Aug 2015 #65

I hope she turns him down. A VP does not have the kind of freedom jwirr Aug 2015 #58

+1 merrily Aug 2015 #63

Maybe thats the point, Mbrow Aug 2015 #69

Oh, I thought about that also. A way for the centrists to silence her. jwirr Aug 2015 #71

Given the strength and persistence of the Draft Warren Movement, she is attractive as a VP, merrily Aug 2015 #77

Biden also has close ties to the banking and credit card industries. He is not a likely JDPriestly Aug 2015 #76

That McGovern lost because he was too liberal to win the Presidency is untrue. merrily Aug 2015 #78

Ready for Warren endorsed Sanders 2 months ago jfern Aug 2015 #81

If the democratic party loses the WH and at least one house in Congress in 2016 no_hypocrisy Aug 2015 #3

Gerrymandering means we won't win the House in 2016. jeff47 Aug 2015 #5

And perhaps beyond, 2020 being the next census year. Remember, losing the House in merrily Aug 2015 #7

The difference between 2010 and 2020 ... aggiesal Aug 2015 #44

Good point and more reason than ever to work for Sanders. merrily Aug 2015 #50

What concerns me is that some states may have also gerrymandered their state legislative district StevieM Aug 2015 #74

A very good point and that is cause for optimism if we can survive this election and not have davidpdx Aug 2015 #83

Not all of the congressional districts the GOP holds now are impervious. Major Hogwash Aug 2015 #70

True, but enough of them are impervious to keep the majority jeff47 Aug 2015 #87

Yup. Completely agree. closeupready Aug 2015 #31

Agreed. jwirr Aug 2015 #59

The rumor is of a Biden-Warren ticket. merrily Aug 2015 #8

Do you choose a primary candidate..... daleanime Aug 2015 #10

I don't, but I think a good number of Warren fans might. merrily Aug 2015 #21

Carefully designed to peal off Sanders supporters. zeemike Aug 2015 #35

Yup! SoapBox Aug 2015 #42

Yep me too. zeemike Aug 2015 #49

True, but they can announce it and campaign together. merrily Aug 2015 #80

We'll see. After Bernstein floated the rumor that Biden is merrily Aug 2015 #51

Definitely. I am certain that if Hillary's stock was not dropping that Biden would not be exploring GoneFishin Aug 2015 #72

I'm a woman, Warren supporter. I wanted her as President. magical thyme Aug 2015 #43

Good to hear! merrily Aug 2015 #45

^^ This. And I don't see Warren going for this bait-and-switch attempt, either. winter is coming Aug 2015 #56

As much as I admire her - don't think she would win in general. 840high Aug 2015 #73

I'd go for that if Bernie falls Android3.14 Aug 2015 #11

I feel your pain. merrily Aug 2015 #13

P.S. The tag team approach, just to make sure a leftist does not win, is a huge turn off for me. merrily Aug 2015 #25

Yep, I'm with you. n/t haikugal Aug 2015 #29

Me too. Enthusiast Aug 2015 #67

Honestly, I don't envision Warren teaming with Biden. NorthCarolina Aug 2015 #36

Either she will or she won't. Either way, Bernie has my primary vote. merrily Aug 2015 #41

The real problems for the DNC randr Aug 2015 #9

dark horse. -- I think that is what's different about this election season: Hiraeth Aug 2015 #14

The poster seems to have a problem with the ages of Joe, Hillary and Bernie. merrily Aug 2015 #17

One could say that the poster made an ageist comment, yes. Hiraeth Aug 2015 #20

One tried not to say it, but one certainly could have said it. merrily Aug 2015 #26

Yes it was implied and this reader inferred that was what the OP was alluding. Hiraeth Aug 2015 #30

And probably not lifting a finger at Mom and Dad's, either. merrily Aug 2015 #46

Well, I have to admit, it wears me out writing the mortgage payment check every month. Hiraeth Aug 2015 #52

I have trouble with certain tasks, too. I procrastinate, zone out, etc. merrily Aug 2015 #53

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One could also say ageism goes both ways. U of M Dem Aug 2015 #57

This one agrees. My post was anecdotal not, indicative. Just stating my daily experience is all. Hiraeth Aug 2015 #61

And this one is glad for it. U of M Dem Aug 2015 #68

The poster is of the same age group as JH&B randr Aug 2015 #66

This is the Sanders Group. If you are looking for someone else, please don't look here. merrily Aug 2015 #16

Trump says: You're fired! Sanders replies: Feel the bern! Hiraeth Aug 2015 #12

At least she is imploding now instead of a year from now. Motown_Johnny Aug 2015 #15

lol ... good question. Time will tell. Been an interesting process this time, have to admit. Hiraeth Aug 2015 #22

If Biden is in, Hillary is toast. Hoppy Aug 2015 #24

Yes Rosa Luxemburg Aug 2015 #27

Because Bernie will win. fbc Aug 2015 #38

Given the electoral college, support in the red states is not a huge comfort in the general. merrily Aug 2015 #47

Maybe they tried to draft/proposition Elizabeth Warren, too Demeter Aug 2015 #37

I do not want any recycled candidates bigwillq Aug 2015 #39

They don't care what you want. That seems relatively obvious. merrily Aug 2015 #48

I'm waiting for them to claim Bernie will get ZERO support from Dems in Congress. Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2015 #40

The warnings about this were early on ...and ignored. L0oniX Aug 2015 #64

It's only logical. nm rhett o rick Aug 2015 #75

Maybe it was not ignored. Maybe it was anticipated, but they knew they had Biden in the wings, just merrily Aug 2015 #79

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Aug 2015 #88

With Biden entering the race(assuming he will) INdemo Aug 2015 #82

Not so sure. zentrum Aug 2015 #84

There was one vote that people may have .............................. turbinetree Aug 2015 #86