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djean111

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16. As I have posted elsewhere, it seems to me that the ONLY reason that Bernie was accepted by the DNC
Sat Aug 29, 2015, 09:18 AM
Aug 2015

was to pull in money and support from his supporters to the DNC and Hillary. And that his popularity, and the refusal of his supporters to accept the "but you will vote for Hillary, right?" mantra was not what they were expecting at all. That old "team player" thing does not work, because the results keep skewing towards Third Way Centrist. Which, of course, was intended, but we were not supposed to notice that. People who are just now taking an interest in politics, because of Bernie, see right through that.

And that is not an evil machination by Bernie supporters, it is the fact that the newly interested people look things up, they don't just accept what is shoved at them, they don't swallow the advertising and messaging like hungry baby birds. They don't just dutifully vote for the D. They see what the policies do to their lives.

Maybe both parties are due for an unraveling. Too bad both parties sold themselves to corporations and Wall Street, because it is clear to me that those entities hold the reins.

Oh, and anyone who could actually see DWS at work down here in Florida would not bother saying that if we elect Progressives locally, that would percolate up through the Party. DWS is there to put a stop to that; the DNC does influence the state organizations. DWS has even not supported Democrats in local elections because she was buddies with the GOP opponents. THAT is our DNC chair.

The Florida Progressive caucus here was threatened with losing its caucus standing if it persisted in backing Alan Grayson against just-turned-Dem in 2012 Patrick Murphy. He only turned Dem because the GOP would not back him against Allan West. NOT because he really wanted to be a Democrat. But he fits in well with the Third Way Centrists, who eagerly compromise downwards with the GOP.

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I have to laugh . . . [View all] Le Taz Hot Aug 2015 OP
The Entrenched are feeling a bit uncomfortable... SoapBox Aug 2015 #1
It's a control thing and it's a Hillary thing. Le Taz Hot Aug 2015 #2
There are plenty of Bernie supporters who believe he can win. Flying Squirrel Aug 2015 #8
I am too. Le Taz Hot Aug 2015 #10
People who say, I love Bernie but I am voting Hillary in the primary are not merrily Aug 2015 #13
Even the so-called Bernie supporters don't really believe he can win the nomination. left-of-center2012 Aug 2015 #11
Wow. That's the first time I fully understood that phrase. C Moon Aug 2015 #7
It is insane. nt malokvale77 Aug 2015 #3
the insanity is their desire to win that makes them loose olddots Aug 2015 #4
I wonder how many have been offered a nice six figure income. Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2015 #6
Sounds pretty par for the course with the DWS "we suck less" party jfern Aug 2015 #5
I'm sorry about that. Cleita Aug 2015 #9
Somehow this doesn't surprise me in the least. Enthusiast Aug 2015 #12
Attempts to deceive have marked this primary from the start. merrily Aug 2015 #14
Keep doing your thing - TBF Aug 2015 #15
As I have posted elsewhere, it seems to me that the ONLY reason that Bernie was accepted by the DNC djean111 Aug 2015 #16
^^^This^^^ SoapBox Aug 2015 #17
The second they named DWS as DNC Chair Le Taz Hot Aug 2015 #18
It has been pointed out elsewhere that we are just stoopids for saying DWS was appointed, because djean111 Aug 2015 #19
Well, in 2004, Le Taz Hot Aug 2015 #20
Thanks! That is exactly how I thought things got done. n/t djean111 Aug 2015 #21
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