Democratic Primaries
In reply to the discussion: Two maps showing what happens if we take WI, MI and PA. Go to the website make your own maps. [View all]Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)I started to respond about the Comey misconception which, despite evidence to the contrary, people still believe. There is no evidence that Comey impacted Clinton negatively. Jill Stein likely impacted her more. There is one late poll, right before the election, that showed Clinton ahead by 4 or so points with just Clinton vs. Trump, but Trump ahead by 2 or so points with Jill Stein in the mix.
I have a list of all the latest polls (11/7 & 11/8), with each poll result followed by the most recent same poll before that time (usu. 10/28). Comey's October surprise was 10/28. The comparisons show little difference between those two time periods. In some Clinton notched down a tad, in others she notched UP.
Because of those polls, immediately after the election results, I wondered if Russia had hacked some election results, because the results did not at all jive with the thrust of ALL of the polls. There was no reason to think that Comey had had any impact. I believe that people were tired of hearing about the emails and disregarded any further statements about them, whether the statements came from Trump or Comey or anyone else.
But I thought if I'd responded to your post, that we both might be alerted on. Because we are not supposed to be rehashing the 2016 election. Still, you threw in a misstatement of fact that needed to be corrected, IMO. If your post was really just about how it applies to 2020, there would have been no need to rehash the WHY of it all. There was criticism at the time that Clinton had not focused on the rust belt, and that had an impact on results. Like I said, though, my immediate impression was that Russia may have hacked results in certain key swing districts in those states, and since the election results were going to be close, that was enough to swing those districts.
The Russian interference has not been resolved, so it could happen again.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided