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In reply to the discussion: **Breaking Harvard Harris Democratic Primary Poll** Middle Class Joe 44% Sanders 14% Harris 9% [View all]Celerity
(54,249 posts)17. Not saying that Bernie isnt toast, BUT this is a dodgy online poll by Mark Penn often used by RWers

Little example of Mark Penn's work at Fox News
Mark Penn: Trump is not a dictator, Nadler is. Our political system is being weaponized against itself
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/mark-penn-trump-nadler-dictator-barr-house-hearing
The Harvard-Harris Poll Scam
On Dec 15, Mark Penn, the longtime political operative who is co-director of the Harvard CAPS-Harris Poll, declared in a piece published by The Hill (and reproduced in various ways Real Clear Politics, Fox Insider, and numerous right-wing and conspiracy theory sites) that Mueller, FBI face crisis in public confidence ! [I added the exclamation point to the headline in The Hill]. That such a crisis in confidence is what the Trump administration and some Trump-loyalist members of Congress have been claiming is or at least should be occurring does not of course mean that the Harvard-Harris poll, if it had actually shown such a crisis were occurring among those it surveyed, would have been wrong.
But a look inside the poll reveals something well, lets just say a little bit off. Confession: although I follow politics, elections, and polls closely, I am by no means an expert on polling methodology. On the other hand, I am not an expert in wildlife, but I can tell when there is a skunk nearby. Before I get into the polls actual and alleged findings, let me acknowledge the impressive academic positions of those who have associated with Mark Penn in producing it.
According to the Harvard-Harris Poll homepage, The co-directors of the poll are Stephen D. Ansolabehere Professor of Government & Director, Center for American Political Studies, Harvard University and Mark J. Penn Visiting Lecturer, Harvard University & Managing Partner, The Stagwell Group. The site also credits Dritan Nesho Fellow, Harvard Institute for Quantitative Social Science & CEO of HarrisX.
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A link to a poll favorable to Trump's policies
https://www.latimes.com/politics/la-pol-updates-everything-president-a-link-to-a-poll-favorable-to-trump-s-1487715242-htmlstory.html
WTF is the "Harvard-Harris Poll," anyway?
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/2/21/1636308/-WTF-is-the-Harvard-Harris-Poll-anyway
Im sure weve all been besieged by this barrage of information purporting to come from the Harvard-Harris Poll. Headlines like Poll: Americans overwhelmingly oppose sanctuary cities, and Poll reveals majority of Americans want Democrats to work with Trump, and Harvard Poll: Americans Brimming With Confidence on Jobs, Economy are drawing rapturous responses from the likes of Kellyanne Conway and Rush Limbaugh. According to one Hill article, Harvard-Harris Poll is a collaboration of the Harvard Center for American Political Studies and the Harris Poll. Its co-director appears to be Mark Penn, apparently of Hillary Clinton 2008 fame. The Harvard-Harris Poll offers a lot of slick graphics to go with its snazzy numbers, but lacks that most elementary of internet accoutrements: a website.
So I looked for information about the Harvard-Harris Poll on the Harvard Center for American Political Studies website. Not a peep about this epoch-making collaboration. The same is true of the Harris Poll website, which looks like it might have died last month. I also checked to see if the Hill itself had announced the rollout somewhere along the line, but no dice. The "Harvard-Harris Poll came online with no fanfare and just spouting some seriously strange looking numbers. I cant believe that a site of the Hills quality has been catfished. I know for a fact that Mark Penn exists. But I cant escape the feeling that something hinky is going on here. Somebody please clue me in.
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hard pass on this trash
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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**Breaking Harvard Harris Democratic Primary Poll** Middle Class Joe 44% Sanders 14% Harris 9% [View all]
DemocratSinceBirth
May 2019
OP
I can see a Biden/Harris ticket. If they won 20/20. it would be the happiest day of my life.
Doodley
May 2019
#8
Not saying that Bernie isnt toast, BUT this is a dodgy online poll by Mark Penn often used by RWers
Celerity
May 2019
#17
I am not even really taking issue with Bernie's numbers, it is all under him that are crazy outliers
Celerity
May 2019
#23
btw, just so you do not think me a Bernie fan, I am not taking issue with his numbers, it is many
Celerity
May 2019
#31
He's already hired Nina Turner, David Sirota, and Briahna Gray and been endorsed by...
George II
May 2019
#25