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uawchild

(2,208 posts)
Tue May 7, 2019, 02:07 AM May 2019

CNN Poll Showing Biden In The Lead Sampled Statistically Insignificant Number Of Voters Under 50 [View all]

Cenk Uygur, John Iadarola, and Maytha Alhassen, hosts of "The Young Turks," discuss a CNN poll conducted by research organization SSRS that showed Joe Biden with a resounding lead against Sen. Bernie Sanders in the Democratic presidential primary. However, it turns out that the poll had too few respondents in both the 18-34 and 35-49 age cohorts to be deemed statistically significant, and therefore polled mostly voters over 50.

Just days after announcing his candidacy, Joe Biden apparently got a big bump in the polls -- or did he? Because the headlines all seem pretty clear that he shot up, but when you look closer it's not as clear as the headlines make it seem.

On Tuesday there was a CNN poll showing Biden at 39, Sanders at 15, and Warren at 8. That is not only a big lead for Biden over Sanders, it is also a big jump for Biden, who had generally been in the high 20s, occasionally 30-31.

That's a big jump, but I want to show you the actual demographic breakdown in the poll. The text is very small and there's a lot of stuff there, but what you will notice immediately is there's a lot of N/As. And the N/As are in the category of people between the ages of 18-34 and 35-49. Now, a lot of people noticed that. That does not mean that they didn't have any respondents in those ages, they did. It just means that there weren't enough of them to consider it to be a representative sample for opinions held by those people, there just weren't enough of them. Overall it means that the results are going to be a good bit biased because what you are really polling is not people, it is the oldest age groups in America.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2019/05/05/tyts_john_iadarola_cnn_poll_showing_biden_in_the_lead_sample_statistically_insignificant_number_of_voters_under_50.html

I had no idea this was true. Makes me want to take a closer look at all the polls.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
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You lost me at ... NanceGreggs May 2019 #1
It's basically an attempt at "unskewing" the poll. BannonsLiver May 2019 #2
Yup, you noticed that to. Gee, perhaps the OP thinks that Biden will drop out of the race because still_one May 2019 #4
Has HA Goodman checked in on this? NurseJackie May 2019 #16
+++++++++++++ still_one May 2019 #19
... NYMinute May 2019 #28
Or Walter Bragman? KitSileya May 2019 #34
Same here! True Blue American May 2019 #5
+1 MrsCoffee May 2019 #23
Too early to poll anyway. elleng May 2019 #3
How so? Who says? Why is it "too early" to poll? NurseJackie May 2019 #17
Because Bernie isn't in front. MrsCoffee May 2019 #22
I believe you've nailed it. That's what I was thinking too. NurseJackie May 2019 #25
eh, it is pretty early for polling qazplm135 May 2019 #30
Thanks for the practical response, qazplm135. elleng May 2019 #32
Baloney elleng May 2019 #33
I don't think so. Cha May 2019 #36
Hmmmmmm... interesting!!! InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #6
Roflmfao. MrsCoffee May 2019 #21
You need a gif to go with that nt NYMinute May 2019 #29
I ignore all polls whether good or bad, watoos May 2019 #7
46% is within the MOE of several other polls. TwilightZone May 2019 #14
You STILL have "no idea this is true." I couldn't find any analysis Hortensis May 2019 #8
Cenk Uygur and Tim Hains... lapucelle May 2019 #9
Cenk has a certificate ucrdem May 2019 #10
Cenk Uygur? NYMinute May 2019 #11
I didn't watch the entire video dsc May 2019 #12
Very good post NYMinute May 2019 #27
There are four other polls showing him with similar leads. TwilightZone May 2019 #13
Cenk is a deceptive right winger with a very sordid history of ratfucking and sexism. WeekiWater May 2019 #15
Bingo! R B Garr May 2019 #18
But... but... he is consoling and soothing to some ... NYMinute May 2019 #26
I guess the OP didn't Cha May 2019 #37
And lately he's praising Tucker Carlson: highplainsdem May 2019 #45
Screw Cenk and the Russians he rode in on. MrsCoffee May 2019 #20
+1 dalton99a May 2019 #24
Exactly! So perfectly stated! R B Garr May 2019 #35
Three polls came out that same day..All were trending largely in Biden's favor... Kahuna7 May 2019 #31
But Cenk drones on. Cha May 2019 #38
From Nate Silver Gothmog May 2019 #39
Thanks, Gothmog! I like Nate's description of their nonsense: "their full-of-shit unskewing." highplainsdem May 2019 #40
I trust Nate on polling issues Gothmog May 2019 #41
Hey! Nate Silver.. "To start with the basics, The Young Turks are full of shit about this," Cha May 2019 #42
Again I trust Nate on polling issues Gothmog May 2019 #43
I like his Cha May 2019 #44
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