Democratic Primaries

Eliot Rosewater

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98. And yet most of what we hear and read about Warren or Harris or Biden or Booker or

Reply to ehrnst (Reply #92)

Tue May 7, 2019, 08:23 PM

May 2019

Buttigeg etal is either unsubstantiated BULLSHIT or marginal or old stuff.

amazing

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Bernie Says Immigration Threatens the Social Safety Net. Research Shows Otherwise [View all] George II May 2019 OP

Keep digging, Bernie. The Velveteen Ocelot May 2019 #1

Isolationism leads to war. yardwork May 2019 #2

Not to mention being core components of a free society LongtimeAZDem May 2019 #103

Honestly, it doesn't feel as though Bernie has reexamined his positions since well before 2016... hlthe2b May 2019 #3

You're correct. NurseJackie May 2019 #34

No it doesn't. Cha May 2019 #110

Fascinating. Democrats are now for open borders? Autumn May 2019 #4

Nobody is for open borders. But claiming that we can't afford to admit immigrants The Velveteen Ocelot May 2019 #10

He was discussing open borders. Like Obama he understands that we need to have border security, Autumn May 2019 #18

But nobody is advocating for open borders, so it's a straw man argument. The Velveteen Ocelot May 2019 #19

Did you even read the OP? Bernie was at Iowa town hall and asked why he is FOR open borders. Autumn May 2019 #24

Thanks Autumn, for trying to bring some sense to the DU. rgbecker May 2019 #48

It's a waste of time and I'm done with it. Autumn May 2019 #53

Bernie's actual words getting fact checked? (nt) ehrnst May 2019 #65

Please notify me when some actual checking of facts about Bernie is done. Minus the bias spin Autumn May 2019 #79

It's in the OP- there's a link to the full article. No bias spin. Try reading it. ehrnst May 2019 #80

You can't point to any bias - other than it's not supporting your bias. (nt) ehrnst May 2019 #90

Did someone here ask about FACT CHECKING or VETTING of a candidate, boy what I would Eliot Rosewater May 2019 #91

SHHHHHHH!!!!!! ehrnst May 2019 #92

And yet most of what we hear and read about Warren or Harris or Biden or Booker or Eliot Rosewater May 2019 #98

It has direct, unedited quotes. George II May 2019 #63

Taken out of context and a lot left out. Autumn May 2019 #66

What context did the author of the OP leave out concerning Bernie's statement on the ehrnst May 2019 #68

Nothing about threatening the social safety net. rgbecker May 2019 #73

Juan Pedroza, an immigration expert disagrees. ehrnst May 2019 #76

Does that mean that the Mexican and Central American economies are weakened by emmigration? MichMan May 2019 #88

What was my point exactly? rgbecker May 2019 #89

In what way? Remember, the link to the entire article was included in the OP. George II May 2019 #72

Nobody is attacking BS. NurseJackie May 2019 #77

"We don't have room for immigrants, they will cost too much" is a RW talking point. ehrnst May 2019 #23

Here you go. Read it or don't. Autumn May 2019 #28

Does not address my point about him being wrong about immigrants and the social safety net. ehrnst May 2019 #30

Read it or don't. I didn't respond to any post of yours making a point Autumn May 2019 #32

Listen to what he actually said, and read the OP, or don't. (nt) ehrnst May 2019 #37

Where have I heard that straw man attacked before...OH, right. ehrnst May 2019 #16

Where have I heard Bernie is wrong because he's against open borders...OH, right. Autumn May 2019 #22

You don't repeat RW talking points... ehrnst May 2019 #26

Sort of like, when Republicans say a policy is socialism, don't come out and say you're a socialist brooklynite May 2019 #33

You don't let them drive the conversation. You don't give in to their narrative. ehrnst May 2019 #38

You seem to have a lot of rules about what to talk about. rgbecker May 2019 #55

Just stating Democratic strategy that's worked. Basic strategy. (nt) ehrnst May 2019 #56

So putting the spotlight on Bernie's statements, like any other POTUS candidate is "bashing." ehrnst May 2019 #60

Straw man. rgbecker May 2019 #69

Why don't you take it up with the author of the study? ehrnst May 2019 #74

Here. Cant help you beyond that. Autumn May 2019 #43

Here. Can't help you beyond that. ehrnst May 2019 #44

What's the point of this? George II May 2019 #40

Wow awesomerwb1 May 2019 #39

Nah, we're not for bullshit ass'd reasoning against immigration. uponit7771 May 2019 #94

I haven't seen that. Just Bernie answering a question that he's for immigration but Autumn May 2019 #95

Unnnnnn, Sanders said we can't afford open borders ... that's the right wing reason for not uponit7771 May 2019 #96

And who exactly is calling for open borders? peggysue2 May 2019 #5

EXACTLY what a TRUMPER would FUCKING SAY Eliot Rosewater May 2019 #11

I don't think any of our Democratic candidates are MineralMan May 2019 #6

Could it be he brought it up because he was asked a question about it at a town hall? Autumn May 2019 #51

It doesn't matter, really. He said it. MineralMan May 2019 #52

Yeah he should have told the guy he didn't "have the time to completely lay out all the details." Autumn May 2019 #57

When you speak to a reporter, you have to expect your words to MineralMan May 2019 #58

He didn't speak to a reporter, as I told you, he answered a question by an attendee. nt Autumn May 2019 #64

Apparently, it was recorded, then. MineralMan May 2019 #67

Candidates get fact checked. Apparently when it's Bernie's turn, then it's 'bashing,' ehrnst May 2019 #70

I suppose the rule every candidate has to follow is: "Be careful. You're on camera." MineralMan May 2019 #71

So What Are We Seeing Here? Me. May 2019 #7

yes and yet kit gloves treatment required on some message boards Eliot Rosewater May 2019 #12

OT and no shaming KitSileya May 2019 #20

It was a misprint...my bad. It is kid Eliot Rosewater May 2019 #47

Ah. So no fascinating linguistic anomaly. Too bad ;) NT KitSileya May 2019 #49

When I first started doing message boards the word spelled out that I use all the Eliot Rosewater May 2019 #50

Bernie's obsession with wooing Trump voters NYMinute May 2019 #8

Trump voters are hopeless. They worship Trump like he's their God, and The Velveteen Ocelot May 2019 #13

From your link. sheshe2 May 2019 #9

Oh, but we can't let a few pesky FACTS get in the way of our OPINIONS, can we? groundloop May 2019 #15

Good God--What threatens zentrum May 2019 #14

Well, that's quite a difference between Bernie and the Democratic Party. (nt) ehrnst May 2019 #17

America doesn't have an Open Border now... billpolonsky May 2019 #21

This. nt. Skidmore May 2019 #85

So why would he say such a thing if the data and evidence says otherwise? NurseJackie May 2019 #25

Post removed Post removed May 2019 #27

I'm so happy relieved to see him imploding at a much faster rate than I though lunamagica May 2019 #29

+1000 Thekaspervote May 2019 #35

This message was self-deleted by its author brandnewday2009 May 2019 #42

Preach it! NurseJackie May 2019 #62

Septuagenarian and still hasn't learned the rule of holes. nt fleabiscuit May 2019 #31

If I was in attendance at that rally sdfernando May 2019 #36

UNCONTROLLED immigration, he's right. Look at Europe & see their programs getting cut due to it. oldsoftie May 2019 #41

No one is talking about uncontrolled immigration but the GOP misrepresenting Democrats' positions. ehrnst May 2019 #45

As i read your headline i thought "And Bernie". Then i opened your comment! oldsoftie May 2019 #59

He voted against a pathway to citizenship... WeekiWater May 2019 #46

It's always something...."there's a comma out of place, I can't vote for that!!" George II May 2019 #81

Only Norwegians need apply dalton99a May 2019 #54

Heh! You're not the only one to notice that! NurseJackie May 2019 #78

Well, maybe Swedes and Russians. And Ukrainians. (nt) ehrnst May 2019 #82

Actually Bernie did not say immigration threatens the social safety net. rgbecker May 2019 #61

You keep saying that, but you don't ever rebut the Juan Pedroza's case. ehrnst May 2019 #75

Still haven't read the article? ehrnst May 2019 #99

Followed all the links and can't find his article. rgbecker May 2019 #101

The link to the article with Pedroza's responses is in the OP ehrnst May 2019 #102

Is it under paywall or something? rgbecker May 2019 #104

I'm seeing the article linked in the OP just fine. No paywall. ehrnst May 2019 #105

Could you copy and paste the link? rgbecker May 2019 #106

Here you go again. Same one as in my previous response: ehrnst May 2019 #107

Sorry for the confusion. rgbecker May 2019 #108

You seem to be keep looking for a 'separate' article that doesn't exist. ehrnst May 2019 #109

Is he TRYING to lose? NastyRiffraff May 2019 #83

I don't know, but something is up. This morning he was complaining that his fundraising.... George II May 2019 #84

... mcar May 2019 #86

EU countries didn't have uncontrolled immigrations and open borders johannsyah May 2019 #87

Damn, smdh ... I need a video of this ... I just can't believe this Trump level sophistry. uponit7771 May 2019 #93

Thanks for posting this! Always a good reminder of who he R B Garr May 2019 #97

maybe next, he can support Trumps wall. Amimnoch May 2019 #100