Democratic Primaries

Vogon_Glory

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118. I Think Joe Will Do As Well As Hillary Or Better

Wed May 15, 2019, 11:59 PM

May 2019

Joe Biden might seem like a Bolshevik to the MAGA Magoos or a race-mixer to the Trump-loving white supremacist bigots, but he not only represents our values and he also signals a return to sanity, something I think would not only hearten our now-aroused and angry base but also enough of the folks who were bamboozled by Donnie to get Team Donkey over the finish line.

Bless Bernie Sanders, but his appeal seems to center around idealistic young pale-faces of the sorts who lacked enough political maturity to stand against Donnie last time around and instead took their marbles and went home instead of voting.

Bless Bernie Sanders, God love him, but he seems to do better in small whitebread states than in the multi-racial lelectoral vote-rich states that could sink Orange Julius.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Sorry DownriverDem May 2019 #1

14% of DUers support him. That's not a majority. denverbill May 2019 #17

Wait!! You mean 14% is LESS than 50+%?! Let me check on that & I'll get back to you. InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #35

14% is 175% more than 8%.... George II May 2019 #53

No one disputes Biden is currently winning the "DU primary"... never said otherwise. InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #83

In most polls, both nationally and individually by state, he's roughly 2-3 to 1.... George II May 2019 #117

Um, 14% isn't even 100% more than 8% Fiendish Thingy May 2019 #87

DU is not representative of the Democratic party, though. Dr Hobbitstein May 2019 #50

Right!!! Thekaspervote May 2019 #86

"Right!!" is your response to DU "skews older and white"? DemocracyMouse May 2019 #147

The majority of voters are in fact not DUers Instant Liberal May 2019 #65

WHY ARE YOU BASHING VP BIDEN. You didn't even offer any FACTS to back up your bashing. trueblue2007 May 2019 #107

And, on DU ... Sanders ranks below BUTTIGIEG left-of-center2012 May 2019 #119

And falling. nt ucrdem May 2019 #157

There there. ucrdem May 2019 #2

Holding back a snort here. sheshe2 May 2019 #115

He had a good run but . . . ucrdem May 2019 #156

This is a radical view. zaj May 2019 #3

the Russians propped up Trump and Sanders in 2016 JI7 May 2019 #4

Then which candidate can "totally unite" us? oasis May 2019 #5

That be a unicorn. Nt BootinUp May 2019 #18

The Tooth Fairy???? LovingA2andMI May 2019 #29

Santa! Most everbody likes Santa! 😄 eom sprinkleeninow May 2019 #42

hmmmm sheshe2 May 2019 #104

One of my physics professors sang with the Irish Rovers back in the early 60s. comradebillyboy May 2019 #121

Too cool. sheshe2 May 2019 #126

I had a job in the physics department working for him and a couple of classes. comradebillyboy May 2019 #138

I loved listening to them. sheshe2 May 2019 #139

I was feelin' the OP's sentiment True Dough May 2019 #31

You and me both. Haggis for Breakfast May 2019 #41

I guess there's no candidate who can "totally unite" us. So.... oasis May 2019 #72

i want to see HIS FACTS ..... NOT BASHING. trueblue2007 May 2019 #110

Yes. Like all the facts in this one. Autumn May 2019 #125

You got a point there!! InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #146

ditto. n/t MBS May 2019 #159

What do you exactly expect to accomplish with this OP? still_one May 2019 #6

Post removed Post removed May 2019 #10

Won't work; Biden isn't Sanders LongtimeAZDem May 2019 #12

Well, YOU have cooties. Haggis for Breakfast May 2019 #44

Ut-oh. Forgive me for a possible thread derail. sprinkleeninow May 2019 #68

I'm sorry for your loss. Haggis for Breakfast May 2019 #75

I thank you for your kindness. No, you did not make me sad. sprinkleeninow May 2019 #91

All the best to you. Haggis for Breakfast May 2019 #95

💛 you. sprinkleeninow May 2019 #116

Grief is a roller coaster. Shock sets in. We don't even know it until much much later. So sorry! emmaverybo May 2019 #90

Yes, it does this. sprinkleeninow May 2019 #113

Evenings are the toughest emmaverybo May 2019 #123

And sprinkleeninow May 2019 #129

No worries... sorry to hear that. Just remember, it wouldn't hurt so much InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #136

Oh, stop. My sides are splitting. emmaverybo May 2019 #80

Appreciate the straight forward answer, and believe it or not I understand your point still_one May 2019 #57

Recent polling has shown that the thread you referenced is accurate Gothmog May 2019 #64

Well played sir. rusty quoin May 2019 #127

We feel your pain NYMinute May 2019 #133

What did this one accomplish? Sometimes an OP is just an opinion. Autumn May 2019 #11

Biden's well ahead in the polls with every age group except the youngest. That minority does not highplainsdem May 2019 #7

Are you mocking HA Goodman? WeekiWater May 2019 #8

He'd be running against Trump so I don't see a McGovernesque outcome BeyondGeography May 2019 #9

No matter our nominee, There will be record turnout to oust Trump. Funtatlaguy May 2019 #19

Suffering Jesus. TomSlick May 2019 #13

Well, and He did weep. eom sprinkleeninow May 2019 #47

I appreciate your forbearance. TomSlick May 2019 #89

I honor you and appreciate you for your service. sprinkleeninow May 2019 #102

Addendum. sprinkleeninow May 2019 #105

A "corporate owned Democrat?" Fuck that bullshit. W_HAMILTON May 2019 #14

Republicans have INdemo May 2019 #15

It's not dirt. It's voting records. denverbill May 2019 #25

No Bernie helped to cost is the election. Just as you are doing here. wasupaloopa May 2019 #39

I have MANY reasons to vote FOR Bernie and his revolutionary progressive agenda. InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #40

Suuure....and just what IS that "revolutionary progressive agenda"? I've never seen it articulated. George II May 2019 #46

Then I hope you enjoy trump's second term. Haggis for Breakfast May 2019 #49

Oh look- the other one showed up. NBachers May 2019 #100

Do you believe that no one radical noodle May 2019 #94

This message was self-deleted by its author InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #92

Thank,you for your input. pangaia May 2019 #16

Anton? BeyondGeography May 2019 #37

Is there another? pangaia May 2019 #66

Oh man, I love Celi's stately Bruckner interpretations BeyondGeography May 2019 #85

Another great one..... pangaia May 2019 #99

I have been a member since Kobe and Shaq were a thing DemocratSinceBirth May 2019 #20

Thanks for reminding us that John Fante May 2019 #21

+1 DemocratSinceBirth May 2019 #22

+1 LongtimeAZDem May 2019 #30

+ 1 more Haggis for Breakfast May 2019 #54

Most Excellent Reply! NBachers May 2019 #103

Well, you know what they say about opinions.... The Velveteen Ocelot May 2019 #23

Hiya! sprinkleeninow May 2019 #56

Back atcha! The Velveteen Ocelot May 2019 #59

Regardless, sprinkleeninow May 2019 #70

I tend to agree with you. Merlot May 2019 #24

What we saw in the mid terms was a lot of center left candidates winning purple seats. DemocratSinceBirth May 2019 #26

Looks like three: LongtimeAZDem May 2019 #45

Not all of them were competitive districts DemocratSinceBirth May 2019 #60

I bolded the three that were; I went by the presence of primary challengers LongtimeAZDem May 2019 #62

I like Ilhan Omar but the reality is that any Democrat with a pulse would've won MN CD-5. The Velveteen Ocelot May 2019 #122

And Ayanna Pressley ran unopposed in the general. n/t namahage May 2019 #153

Biden is not my least favorite candidate...he's currently 9th on my winnowed down Top-10 list. InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #98

whittled George II May 2019 #112

maybe yaesu May 2019 #27

Interesting view... LovingA2andMI May 2019 #28

If Charlie Manson rose from the grave he would be competitive against Trump. DemocratSinceBirth May 2019 #32

If the election came down to those two, I'd certainly vote for Charles Manson if he were still alive InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #106

Well I am not impressed considering the source. wasupaloopa May 2019 #33

You're really afraid......of Biden, aren't you? slingsam May 2019 #34

Trump is going to get 62% of the popular vote and win 49% states? DemocratSinceBirth May 2019 #36

I Support Sanders But Am Forced To Concur corbettkroehler May 2019 #155

I have the same feeling about Biden. Times have changed and we're running someone who jalan48 May 2019 #38

Why so salty?... SidDithers May 2019 #43

... DemocratSinceBirth May 2019 #48

Kick because of the ridiculous Sanders thread...nt Autumn May 2019 #51

Yes, I wish people here didn't feel so obligated to bash Sanders. gtar100 May 2019 #52

Here we go with the "corporate" label again. ecstatic May 2019 #55

in 2016 the democrat got about 3 MILLION more votes than trump - just in the wrong areas nt msongs May 2019 #58

it is time that kozar May 2019 #61

If we can argue, then your proposition is probably not true, at least no more true than our emmaverybo May 2019 #63

That's very good. It's practically poetic. DemocratSinceBirth May 2019 #67

I do know my line breaks... emmaverybo May 2019 #71

Three questions DemocratSinceBirth May 2019 #88

Sounds like a fan with a true crush. Love is blind. I was getting stuck too, but trying to let go emmaverybo May 2019 #96

I don't buy that for a second Jarqui May 2019 #69

They won't. Trump's MAGAS, potential domestic terrorists, neo-Nazis, and generalist haters emmaverybo May 2019 #76

I don't agree. n/t GP6971 May 2019 #73

Damn that was good. emmaverybo May 2019 #77

Barack Obama thought Joe Biden would be a good president and that's good enough for me. DemocratSinceBirth May 2019 #74

Go back to the abyss! IADEMO2004 May 2019 #78

Bernie is unelectable. Hassler May 2019 #79

Totally redstateblues May 2019 #84

"We need to be totally united to beat them"??? PatSeg May 2019 #81

This is who we are now. We are cautious and a no waves Laura PourMeADrink May 2019 #82

So-called "progressives" gonna vote for trump, Stein or stay home again? Hoyt May 2019 #93

Oh, if only half of your attacks on Biden's positions were true.... George II May 2019 #97

Dear OP. . . Collimator May 2019 #101

Sorry, I prefer candidates whose supporters DID NOT boo Elijah Cummings and Hillary Clinton. NBachers May 2019 #108

Amen to that EveHammond13 May 2019 #111

I also prefer candidates who don't fill their staff with Jill Stein voters. John Fante May 2019 #130

ugh EveHammond13 May 2019 #109

Thanks for the laugh left-of-center2012 May 2019 #114

I Think Joe Will Do As Well As Hillary Or Better Vogon_Glory May 2019 #118

This message was self-deleted by its author emmaverybo May 2019 #120

Biden is winning by a mile. Deal with it. Doodley May 2019 #124

For now, but it's early. You have to admit that. rusty quoin May 2019 #128

Democrats are coalescing around Biden. They know him. They trust him. They see he's a heavy hitter. Doodley May 2019 #131

I don't support any of them (yet), but you have to admit that Biden is FAR FAR ahead. Honeycombe8 May 2019 #137

I don't support Biden. But I don't see anyone who can for sure win. Honeycombe8 May 2019 #132

Some folks really need to grow up, THERE IS NO PERFECT CANDIDATE that meets all of iluvtennis May 2019 #134

Consolation post NYMinute May 2019 #135

Beautiful. Looks like a harlequin Great Dane emmaverybo May 2019 #152

Cool Story, Bro , ! stonecutter357 May 2019 #140

no point in arguing for one simple reason. quickesst May 2019 #141

I prefer promoting a candidate vs trashing others. 33taw May 2019 #142

If The Bern Doesn't Make It This Time, He Still Has a Couple of Tries Left Before Age 100! DoctorJoJo May 2019 #143

The electorate was 90% white in 1972. DemocratSinceBirth May 2019 #144

Sanders' Supporters Have No Idea How Much Bernie is Loathed by Many Dems Indykatie May 2019 #145

This guy Bullock looks interesting. Pepsidog May 2019 #148

Well that settles it then. RelativelyJones May 2019 #149

I didn't think Trump was electable. secondwind May 2019 #150

"You Can Argue," a poem: emmaverybo May 2019 #151

McGovern was wiped out 'cause he was a Establishment Corporate ConservaDem crazytown May 2019 #154

Words of wisdom LiberalLovinLug May 2019 #158