Democratic Primaries

marylandblue

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58. Not everything can be blamed on Russia.

Reply to LibFarmer (Reply #54)

Sat Jun 15, 2019, 05:03 PM

Jun 2019

Millions of people made unusual choices all by themselves. Millions of others were unhappy with the options given them.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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In the primaries it doesn't matter a lick what your "major issue" is or [View all] redstatebluegirl Jun 2019 OP

Hear ya. n/t Beartracks Jun 2019 #1

yep, how did that work out in 2016? AlexSFCA Jun 2019 #2

He can excite the blue collar workers in Ohio, Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania. redstatebluegirl Jun 2019 #3

How did what work out in 2016? Cha Jun 2019 #4

I don't, I speak always for myself. redstatebluegirl Jun 2019 #10

I know you always speak for yourself, redstatebluegirl! Cha Jun 2019 #16

I need to say more about the fact that I am speaking for Biden supporters. redstatebluegirl Jun 2019 #12

I believe Cha's comment was in response to AlexSFGCA's comment, not yours. thesquanderer Jun 2019 #13

Thanks I really like her. redstatebluegirl Jun 2019 #14

Yes.. Thank you.. Cha Jun 2019 #19

I would never say that to you, redstatebluegirl.. Cha Jun 2019 #18

Thank you! You are one of my favorites here ! redstatebluegirl Jun 2019 #21

I volunteered also. Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #93

+1 -K&R onetexan Jun 2019 #84

Excitement didn't seem to help Butterflylady Jun 2019 #5

Bernie did pretty well for an unknown crusty socialist without minority support. marylandblue Jun 2019 #11

There was Russian help nt LibFarmer Jun 2019 #54

Not everything can be blamed on Russia. marylandblue Jun 2019 #58

Robert Mueller's indictment of IRA agents LibFarmer Jun 2019 #59

yup 3 campaigns coordinated together to attack Clinton JI7 Jun 2019 #69

Not EVERYTHING can be attributed to Russia, or marylandblue Jun 2019 #70

How does one go from Bernie to Trump LibFarmer Jun 2019 #71

the support for Russian influence in the elections is part of the problems JI7 Jun 2019 #72

How many ways are there to say we have serious, deep, dangerous, and potentially unsolvable problems marylandblue Jun 2019 #74

it's all about racism and other bigotry. the Russian attack JI7 Jun 2019 #75

Well at least you got part of it. But it isn't just racism and we seem blind to the root causes marylandblue Jun 2019 #76

root causes of racism ? JI7 Jun 2019 #77

Sigh. Never mind. marylandblue Jun 2019 #78

that's becsuse it was the same people at his crowds. even when he was in large minority areas JI7 Jun 2019 #28

There were thousands of Bernie groupies LibFarmer Jun 2019 #55

I sat in the Moda Center in Portland, Oregon with 20,000 other supporters with 8,000 more outside CentralMass Jun 2019 #79

How many of them were booing John Lewis in Philly? nt LibFarmer Jun 2019 #80

I'm not from nor do I live in Philly and have no clue. Philadelphia was rated the angriest city in CentralMass Jun 2019 #81

That "angriest city in America" rating is based primarily on the attitude of their sports fans, not George II Jun 2019 #87

I was at the National Convention during the planned stunt to boo Congressman Lewis Gothmog Jun 2019 #91

I must be the only one then. I am excited and inspired by his candidacy. All in for Joe. nt emmaverybo Jun 2019 #6

I'm sure there are others who share your enthusiasm. hedda_foil Jun 2019 #23

Age shows. It's not a character defect though and often a wisdom. That you think him a emmaverybo Jun 2019 #39

That seems to be the trendy, manufactured narrative being used. LanternWaste Jun 2019 #94

You're not the only one.. Cha Jun 2019 #61

This morning when my sister and I were having our weekly political discussion underthematrix Jun 2019 #26

but Hillary got more votes than Sanders and Trump. i know some don't think JI7 Jun 2019 #27

no, they don't count at all cause of electoral college AlexSFCA Jun 2019 #29

that's right. so lets not pretend it's about anything other than white racists JI7 Jun 2019 #30

no one is trying to pretend AlexSFCA Jun 2019 #31

people pretend all the time as if it's about anything else. JI7 Jun 2019 #33

I find Biden exciting...he is a great guy and I mean no offense but Mayor Pete will not win a Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #45

Tell us why again. cwydro Jun 2019 #73

Two reasons...not enough experience and i dont believe homophobic Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #92

I find Biden exciting LibFarmer Jun 2019 #53

Hillary got millions more votes and the KGOP stole it from her and us. MrsCoffee Jun 2019 #57

+1 -K&R. Why people seem to forget that and say the Idiot onetexan Jun 2019 #86

I think it depends on what those white swing state blue collar workers really want marylandblue Jun 2019 #7

those white people are going for Biden in huge numbers JI7 Jun 2019 #32

Has to do with a lot of things, not just the economy, and maybe they do want Biden marylandblue Jun 2019 #37

you are comparing different primaries. trump was not a surprise JI7 Jun 2019 #41

"one thing that i can see hurting Biden is he doesn't like to campaign. " marylandblue Jun 2019 #42

Biden is a great campaigner and you are wrong to say that. He is a smart campaigner and if you Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #46

I was quoting JI7. Hence the quote marks. Please pay attention. marylandblue Jun 2019 #50

I can't imagine a blue collar voter who voted for trump will vote for Biden AlexSFCA Jun 2019 #34

Well that's what I think, but we'll have to wait and see. marylandblue Jun 2019 #35

there are misogynist racist leaning type democrats who like the economic policies JI7 Jun 2019 #43

Yeah I live in Ohio...so I know a number of them. Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #47

Polls show Biden is the leader in those states. Turin_C3PO Jun 2019 #64

There is only a handful of states in play. Florida first among them. That's where trump Kurt V. Jun 2019 #8

we have very recent data on FL: gillum and nelson AlexSFCA Jun 2019 #36

I'm with you on electability being numero uno.. VarryOn Jun 2019 #9

I am not in favor of Medicare for all...and don't believe it to be a winning issue. Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #48

I agree with you, but I think a number of candidates can win WI/PA/MI and therefore beat Trump. thesquanderer Jun 2019 #15

Getting rid of Trump Turin_C3PO Jun 2019 #17

You're quite right. But that doesn't automatically inaugurate Biden. hedda_foil Jun 2019 #24

Didn't say it did. Turin_C3PO Jun 2019 #25

Nobody is saying that it would ".. automatically inaugurate Biden" Cha Jun 2019 #38

I do not believe Warren can carry the states we need. Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #49

He has the best chance. Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #65

My only litmus test is voting for the strongest candidate who can beat underthematrix Jun 2019 #20

Yes Biden and any of the other candidates except Bernie. redstatebluegirl Jun 2019 #22

Sheer intelligence, savvy and wit will beat him. Not sure Laura PourMeADrink Jun 2019 #40

Way overstated. OF COURSE, issues matter. Hortensis Jun 2019 #44

No. This is the opposite of what a primary is about. TCJ70 Jun 2019 #51

Some people's major issue is LibFarmer Jun 2019 #52

Free stuff. Turin_C3PO Jun 2019 #63

Bernie does say "free college education" LibFarmer Jun 2019 #67

Nothing's ultimately free of course. Turin_C3PO Jun 2019 #68

Biden can kick Trump's ass NYMinute Jun 2019 #56

Trump won his primaries with immigration KayF Jun 2019 #60

Lets refine that - the Idiot didnt win, he stole the election onetexan Jun 2019 #85

i'm talking about the primaries KayF Jun 2019 #90

Voting is not an objective exercise loyalsister Jun 2019 #62

According to recent polls, we have numerous candidates that can beat Trump. earthshine Jun 2019 #66

Issues do matter IMO, since winning still requires a strong campaign. BlueWI Jun 2019 #82

Pro Life, Pro Fossil Fuels, Pro Deregulation. crazytown Jun 2019 #83

Here here! The platform is the platform. They will all mostly agree to it. Kahuna7 Jun 2019 #88

But they have to win in the general to execute any of the platform. BlueWI Jun 2019 #89