Democratic Primaries

mopinko

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120. yeah, no. you missed my point.

Thu Jun 20, 2019, 06:58 PM

Jun 2019

we arent indicative of general voting populations, because we are better educated than most.

which is to say that the debate here is among people who know what they are talking about, for the most part, and many real concerns have been expressed.
the info is out there if you want to look. i put a higher value on educated critics than generic voters who may or may not be paying any attention.
it's early. this stuff will become more widely known, more incidents will almost certainly follow.

i'm not talking about people who are predicting the future, guessing who will beat trump. i am talking about people who are recounting the past, and looking at the present, and have real issues.

too many other good choices this time.
this is no time to be toting biden's baggage around.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Joe Biden is a seriously flawed candidate. [View all] Voltaire2 Jun 2019 OP

So vote for someone else then? BannonsLiver Jun 2019 #1

I will. You should too. We all should. Voltaire2 Jun 2019 #2

You are entitled to your opinion I don't share it. redstatebluegirl Jun 2019 #6

Thanks, but I can figure it out for myself. BannonsLiver Jun 2019 #8

LOL, so no matter what "WORDS" you here about Biden, you would never not vote for him??? nt USALiberal Jun 2019 #105

No.. I don't consider your opinion on Joe Biden. Cha Jun 2019 #72

You are entitled to your opinion. redstatebluegirl Jun 2019 #126

we're not at the voting stage. We're deliberating our picks and this is a thoughtful post robbedvoter Jun 2019 #11

Meh not really BannonsLiver Jun 2019 #13

I can stand Biden qazplm135 Jun 2019 #51

So is Bernie, Warren, Harris, Buttigieg, O'Rourke, Booker, Hickenlopper - need I go on? Skya Rhen Jun 2019 #83

Ok then qazplm135 Jun 2019 #94

Name the last "surefire candidate" to win on the Democratic side... Moostache Jun 2019 #3

Nobody is sure fire. Voltaire2 Jun 2019 #17

I agree. LuvNewcastle Jun 2019 #67

This is the time for vetting candidates. irisblue Jun 2019 #4

In looking at all of your posts it sure appears that you are on a mission redstatebluegirl Jun 2019 #5

How he can he destroy anyone on a site with maybe 2,000 partcipants? marylandblue Jun 2019 #12

Apparently I have super powers. Voltaire2 Jun 2019 #16

Nope you don't, but you are bashing a democrat. redstatebluegirl Jun 2019 #24

What issues about Biden (or any other candidate) do you feel are acceptable to bring up? brooklynite Jun 2019 #34

No he isn't Lordquinton Jun 2019 #103

Teh destruction of Biden must stop! BeyondGeography Jun 2019 #53

truth. Kurt V. Jun 2019 #106

Yes, and definitely not Undecided. Pro Sanders per previous posts. nt R B Garr Jun 2019 #21

You are entitled to your own opinions, but you need to NOT bash Democrats on this page. secondwind Jun 2019 #7

The primary forum is expressly for Voltaire2 Jun 2019 #10

And when the opinion is 2+25, expect both your agenda and bias to be noticed. LanternWaste Jun 2019 #23

Now that you've posted opinions against a candidate, when will you get around to posting FOR one? George II Jun 2019 #39

Whatever the Vermont propaganda algorithm says LibFarmer Jun 2019 #118

And this no apology thing...could be part of a strategy. UniteFightBack Jul 2019 #135

Dunno why you're saying this, no bashing goin on Lordquinton Jun 2019 #104

When did he joke about sexual abuse? SouthernProgressive Jun 2019 #9

Ok. Numerous times. Voltaire2 Jun 2019 #14

Post removed Post removed Jun 2019 #15

Where is the "joking about sexual abuse" part? BannonsLiver Jun 2019 #25

He's joking about people having to lock up Voltaire2 Jun 2019 #30

Ah BannonsLiver Jun 2019 #37

That's how you interpreted "keep the guys away from your sister"?! mac56 Jun 2019 #56

His other phrase in the same repertoire Voltaire2 Jun 2019 #58

So "no dating before you're 30" you equate with statutory rape. Or that he wants women controlled. UniteFightBack Jul 2019 #137

This post is so embarrassing you should delete it. Yes it's that bad. nt UniteFightBack Jul 2019 #138

Thankfully, the little girl wasn't low-income and hanging out on street corners LanternWaste Jun 2019 #26

That's the way some people LIKE to interpret that. My youngest sister grew up with four.... George II Jun 2019 #41

Have heard a variation of it many times before BannonsLiver Jun 2019 #45

I have never heard that used in a protective way and I find it bizarre that one would UniteFightBack Jul 2019 #140

It's so absurd I had to read that twice to make sure I was comprehending. nt UniteFightBack Jul 2019 #139

My uncle used to say that about me and his daughter all the time. OhZone Jun 2019 #68

And another: Voltaire2 Jun 2019 #47

Obviously if she whispered something in his ear mac56 Jun 2019 #57

He's joking about the repeated allegations Voltaire2 Jun 2019 #60

You must be a blast at a party. mac56 Jun 2019 #62

This was a political event not a party. Voltaire2 Jun 2019 #99

You're entitled to your incorrect opinions. The polls show that he's the current favorite highplainsdem Jun 2019 #18

"The polls show that he's the current favorite" - and THAT is the reason for a lot of this. George II Jun 2019 #43

You'll of course, ignore with righteousness Sanders' many, many gaffes. LanternWaste Jun 2019 #19

Sanders is also gaffe prone. Voltaire2 Jun 2019 #22

Another unsupported allegation. LanternWaste Jun 2019 #28

Oh so Sanders is not gaffe prone? Voltaire2 Jun 2019 #32

The opening post would be music to the ears of Republicans. Doodley Jun 2019 #20

he isn't my first choice but i would vote for him over JI7 Jun 2019 #27

As Daniel Patrick Moynihan said.... LibFarmer Jun 2019 #29

Today's smear "flawed" NYMinute Jun 2019 #31

I think he's a great candidate WA-03 Democrat Jun 2019 #33

This this and so much this! ha OhZone Jun 2019 #69

+1000 UniteFightBack Jul 2019 #141

Why is it that I suspect you never would have supported Biden, regardless. Your bias seems to be hlthe2b Jun 2019 #35

I disagree with Biden on many issues. Voltaire2 Jun 2019 #49

Funny how such a "disastrous" candidate was elected to the Senate at 29, sop Jun 2019 #127

Not really. Voltaire2 Jun 2019 #129

You're really invested in this, aren't you? sop Jun 2019 #130

To borrow a line from Trump's playbook... FBaggins Jun 2019 #36

Not a favorable comparison Lordquinton Jun 2019 #96

Hardly FBaggins Jun 2019 #116

He did not joke about sexual abuse. You are simply repeating a highly suspect response Linda emmaverybo Jun 2019 #38

Your explanation makes it even worse. Voltaire2 Jun 2019 #42

Done with you. NT emmaverybo Jun 2019 #63

While I disagree with that customerserviceguy Jun 2019 #40

Joe Biden is the most electable candidate that the Democratic Party has available Gothmog Jun 2019 #44

at the moment, according to the polls. AtheistCrusader Jun 2019 #46

Ugh. That is what is holding up our party. gldstwmn Jun 2019 #84

I think the media bears a large part of the responsibility for that. AtheistCrusader Jun 2019 #89

We need a candidate who can work the media. Obama did it. Clinton did it. marylandblue Jun 2019 #100

So I guess the question is, which candidate can do it best for the long haul. AtheistCrusader Jun 2019 #113

Buttigieg seems best to me. But we'll have to see how it plays out. marylandblue Jun 2019 #114

'Electable'. By what metric? WoonTars Jun 2019 #75

He has said he's not sorry about anything he's ever done. Demit Jun 2019 #48

Do you have a link for that? BannonsLiver Jun 2019 #50

Video at the link-- Demit Jun 2019 #52

Ah BannonsLiver Jun 2019 #59

What? He says it right there in the video! You can watch him say it! Demit Jun 2019 #74

Tone deaf Joe has been in public life Progressive dog Jun 2019 #54

Biden blew up two presidential campaigns. Voltaire2 Jun 2019 #55

Biden has lost in primaries Progressive dog Jun 2019 #61

Joe never lost in a general election Progressive dog Jun 2019 #123

Joe was elected to the Senate in a post-Watergate election against a doddering incumbent jberryhill Jun 2019 #82

Biden has never lost in a general election Progressive dog Jun 2019 #124

Yes, I'm familiar with the statistics jberryhill Jun 2019 #125

lol fail ! stonecutter357 Jun 2019 #64

Yup! OhZone Jun 2019 #66

Which candidate is best treestar Jun 2019 #65

+1. Tired of negative campaigning against our candidates. They are all good people emulatorloo Jul 2019 #134

Without commenting on any perceived flaw about Biden, my concern is this: Say Biden becomes in2herbs Jun 2019 #70

That's an interesting question... WoonTars Jun 2019 #73

Maybe Biden will say he asked Obama not to campaign for him. Demit Jun 2019 #76

I'm thinking MSM is going to do to Joe what they did to Howard Dean, they will pick out a Dean yaesu Jun 2019 #71

those are not serious flaws in the big scheme of things. The Wielding Truth Jun 2019 #77

Agreed. I groaned when he entered the race. gldstwmn Jun 2019 #78

Not to mention.. zentrum Jun 2019 #88

Agreed BigOleDummy Jun 2019 #90

We are saying ourselves way short gldstwmn Jun 2019 #93

I will decide on the best candidate in my own good time. ECL213 Jun 2019 #79

Agreed. zentrum Jun 2019 #80

I agree with your assessment (BUT) harumph Jun 2019 #81

I suggest you stop bashing our likely nominee. honest.abe Jun 2019 #85

My opinion is that selecting Biden will be Voltaire2 Jun 2019 #87

My opinion is that the biggest risk of a disaster will come from.. honest.abe Jun 2019 #121

Agree somewhat... phandancer917 Jun 2019 #86

Unfortunately DallasNE Jun 2019 #91

PLEASE name the candidate with NO flaws........ ProudMNDemocrat Jun 2019 #92

I have never suggested that other candidates Voltaire2 Jun 2019 #98

Donald Trump even more so and look where he is right now. ProudMNDemocrat Jun 2019 #101

He is lockstep with the GOP. Voltaire2 Jun 2019 #102

this thread is the proof. mopinko Jun 2019 #95

DU is not representative of the real world. TwilightZone Jun 2019 #119

yeah, no. you missed my point. mopinko Jun 2019 #120

He's a decent man who has done some good work. He should not be president. WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2019 #97

So was Trump. sarabelle Jun 2019 #107

Sure. Voltaire2 Jun 2019 #111

No worries. If other voters ecstatic Jun 2019 #108

Says you onetexan Jun 2019 #109

Yes. I did not cut and paste somebody else's opinion. Voltaire2 Jun 2019 #110

Interesting how these Biden bashing posts stay Nuggets Jun 2019 #112

We have heard the same stuff about Hillary NYMinute Jun 2019 #115

According to Symone Sanders, Biden did not praise a segregationist Gothmog Jun 2019 #117

Yes he is and he shouldn't be running. BlueStater Jun 2019 #122

You have to admit he had a lot of encouragement. nt UniteFightBack Jul 2019 #142

Yep. gtar100 Jun 2019 #128

And all the others are just so perfect ValidateThis Jun 2019 #131

Is that you Vlad? maxrandb Jun 2019 #132

Keep telling yourself that. NT. GulfCoast66 Jun 2019 #133

I'd post something derogatory about your candidate... Midwestocrat Jul 2019 #136