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Honeycombe8

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22. Governing requires compromise, as a rule.
Sat Jun 22, 2019, 02:02 PM
Jun 2019

You have 10 people...5 on this side, 5 on that side. If you want to pass a bill that requires a vote of 7, then you either don't pass the bill, or you work with the other side to get 2 votes. That will require an amendment or two to the bill, probably.

Because of that, the country goes forward, assured that one party has not run ramshod over the country, just because they had a majority for a few years. The advantage to a party is that when one party wins more than another, it is the one that gets the bills passed...the winning party's agenda, the bills that the winning party wants.

BUT, times have changed. We no longer have an opposite party that has any ethics or any desire to govern. All it wants to do is rob the country and line their pockets with it, while they can. And WIN elections. As many elections as possible, by any means necessary. It changes the rules impromptu to benefit itself, with no regard for the opposing party or half of the country's citizens. Laughing while demeaning the other party and refusing to follow the law and its own rules, daring the other party to try to do something about it.

The Republican Party is no longer, for the time being, a party that we can work with. They don't WANT to work with us. They WANT foreign interference. They WANT a tax cut bill that screws the working class and lines their pockets. They WANT to not confirm Justices and Judges that the other side appoints. They WANT to support a President who destroys relationships with allies and praises murdering dictators.

I think Biden hasn't caught on that there has been a significant, basic change in the Republican Party. It's not like they went a little too far in supporting a Reagan or even a George Bush. It's far worse than that. IMO, they have sold their souls to the devil, willing to have children caged and shipped off from their parents to parts unknown, never to be returned to their parents. Willing to accept lies about the conclusions of the Mueller Report, and to lie about it themselves. Willing to support a treasonous President.

As for compromise selling out minorities, I don't think that's any more of a concern than women's issues or worker's issues. The Democratic Party has solid cred for standing up for, and passing, bills that protect the rights of Af. Americans and other minorities. It was white men who passed the Civil Rights Act, and who passed the Voting Rights Act. It was white men who voted to allow black men to vote over a century ago, and later voted to allow women to vote.

That's not to say that they won't compromise on some bills that matter to Af. Americans or women or another group. But that doesn't mean they shouldn't compromise, because it is likely that the deal is...you either compromise, or there is no bill at all. The goal is sometimes to push the country toward a certain goal, as much as it can, rather than accomplishing the goal in one bill. Because if they need votes from conservatives, that's the choice: a compromise or nothing. For the Repubs, too. The glitch, now, though, is the Republicans do NOT bend or compromise, any more. So I have a problem with someone who wants to "work with" them, knowing that what that may mean is....WE compromise and bend toward them, while the Repubs stand strong in their position.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
lol LibFarmer Jun 2019 #1
Your "lol" is insulting and inappropriate EffieBlack Jun 2019 #26
lol Laughing out loud(ly) LibFarmer Jun 2019 #27
Speaks volumes EffieBlack Jun 2019 #28
Actually, I agree with the OP and it is thoughtfully written LibFarmer Jun 2019 #29
I guess all of the "lols" and "purity argument reduxes" smears made it hard to see that you agree EffieBlack Jun 2019 #37
I don't find this funny. sacto95834 Jun 2019 #38
Thank you for your thoughts on this issue. Turin_C3PO Jun 2019 #2
Thank you. Baitball Blogger Jun 2019 #3
Yes, I think he'll learn and change a lot before Turin_C3PO Jun 2019 #6
I don't think it will hurt him. This level of criticism is child's play Politicub Jun 2019 #9
Yes, I get that he's not immune to criticism. Turin_C3PO Jun 2019 #11
What you see as a personal attack often isn't. Except when it is. Politicub Jun 2019 #12
Good post. Turin_C3PO Jun 2019 #14
I've observed the same coming from some Biden supporters. marylandblue Jun 2019 #20
The lifeboat analogy is perfect Politicub Jun 2019 #21
Biden wins. BootinUp Jun 2019 #4
They hear it but still maliciously and disingenuously spin it NYMinute Jun 2019 #5
Not what I was referring to, BootinUp Jun 2019 #10
Next up in the batters box.. Sirota is just spinning right now Peacetrain Jun 2019 #13
Both parties have to be negotiating in good faith. Voltaire2 Jun 2019 #7
Yeah. It is our reality. Republicans do not negotiate in good faith. Baitball Blogger Jun 2019 #15
Corey's problem Pantagruel Jun 2019 #8
Could you explain this, please: George II Jun 2019 #16
White perspectives vs ethnic ones. Baitball Blogger Jun 2019 #17
Perspectives ode2joi1 Jun 2019 #31
Living in Florida, getting bulldozed by incredibly unethical behavior by community leaders, Baitball Blogger Jun 2019 #33
Well said loyalsister Jun 2019 #18
I don't disagree with anything you've said. Baitball Blogger Jun 2019 #19
Piggyback ode2joi1 Jun 2019 #32
Governing requires compromise, as a rule. Honeycombe8 Jun 2019 #22
I believe you. aikoaiko Jun 2019 #23
Thank you. Baitball Blogger Jun 2019 #24
This is a truly excellent OP EffieBlack Jun 2019 #25
Thank you, Effie! Baitball Blogger Jun 2019 #34
The "moderate" white... PETRUS Jun 2019 #30
Thank you for reciting a quote from Martin Luther King Jr. Baitball Blogger Jun 2019 #35
:) PETRUS Jun 2019 #36
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