Democratic Primaries

marylandblue

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77. Warren is trying to move the center to the left, the same way Reagan moved it right.

Mon Jun 24, 2019, 04:45 PM

Jun 2019

We've been living in Reagan's country so long, we've forgotten how he did it. He did it by correctly guessing that regular, ordinary voters (that is not, political junkies or nutjobs) were sick of the economic and political problems of the seventies and were ready to go a new way. Pundits thought he was too far right to win.

We are underestimating Warren the same way.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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How Warren's supporters plan to poach Biden backers [View all] bluewater Jun 2019 OP

If she wants to win, she can't just overtake Bernie, Tiggeroshii Jun 2019 #1

Both BS and Warren are not going to overtake Biden unless something drastic happens. George II Jun 2019 #4

Both BERNIE SANDERS and Warrren will overtake Biden Tiggeroshii Jun 2019 #5

Good on you. nt KPN Jun 2019 #7

Bernie will not ever overtake Biden katmondoo Jun 2019 #19

... NurseJackie Jun 2019 #38

"...by your inconsistency it is clear of your intent." Tiggeroshii Jun 2019 #39

Actually I did finished the sentence. NurseJackie Jun 2019 #46

If you are only using his intitials and not anybody else's, there has to be a reason if it is not Tiggeroshii Jun 2019 #53

Much as the inconsistency by referring to Jimmy Carter and JFK. LanternWaste Jun 2019 #54

Difference is his supporters referred to him as JFK affectionately Tiggeroshii Jun 2019 #60

Oh dear! NurseJackie Jun 2019 #66

That is a no. You will not refer to him as such if he wins the nomination Tiggeroshii Jun 2019 #67

Yes I would. Of course I would. NurseJackie Jun 2019 #78

Oh? Tiggeroshii Jun 2019 #79

I'll bet you he's got thicker skin that you imagine. NurseJackie Jun 2019 #83

We know what you mean by BS NJ LiberalLovinLug Jun 2019 #111

Ha! Good one! Thank you! NurseJackie Jun 2019 #128

So BS doesn't mean anything else to you? Tiggeroshii Jun 2019 #117

It's just a coincidence, I'm sure. NurseJackie Jun 2019 #129

That's the biggest load of BS I've ever heard. Tiggeroshii Jun 2019 #143

Uppercase letters are his initials. Lowercase letters mean "bullshit". NurseJackie Jun 2019 #144

This is hilarious. cwydro Jun 2019 #133

Sure the EW supporters aren't as sensitive either. :) Tiggeroshii Jun 2019 #142

No reason for anyone to be sensitive. NurseJackie Jun 2019 #145

Cheers. Tiggeroshii Jun 2019 #147

Gerne! Sicher! NurseJackie Jun 2019 #148

Ha! NurseJackie Jun 2019 #65

Well you certainly dont have to, but your motives are clear. Tiggeroshii Jun 2019 #68

They are? NurseJackie Jun 2019 #80

Your motives are clear. Tiggeroshii Jun 2019 #81

Not really, but someone's are. MrsCoffee Jun 2019 #84

... Tiggeroshii Jun 2019 #85

... NurseJackie Jun 2019 #87

Yet you won't say what you think they are. NurseJackie Jun 2019 #86

.. Tiggeroshii Jun 2019 #91

Thanks for proving my point. You can't have it both ways. NurseJackie Jun 2019 #92

... Tiggeroshii Jun 2019 #94

An veiled accusation was made about me, and I called it out. NurseJackie Jun 2019 #95

Well call out whatever mysterious accusation you think is made about you. Tiggeroshii Jun 2019 #101

It is a transparent juvenile effort... tonedevil Jun 2019 #112

Thank you! Tiggeroshii Jun 2019 #116

Aww. cwydro Jun 2019 #134

What would make you say that bull shit. /nt tonedevil Jun 2019 #137

Bwhaha! cwydro Jun 2019 #139

No it's not. NurseJackie Jun 2019 #130

As convincing as a chocolate covered three year old... tonedevil Jun 2019 #138

Ha! NurseJackie Jun 2019 #146

Try "Your inconsistency only makes your intent clear." This revision makes your sentence more clear emmaverybo Jun 2019 #57

I said what I meant and I meant what I said. Tiggeroshii Jun 2019 #59

The revision preserves your meaning without the sentence errors which serve to distort. Better yet, emmaverybo Jun 2019 #71

Fair enough. Tiggeroshii Jun 2019 #103

You berry welcome. You a good sport. Berry gracious. 👋 emmaverybo Jun 2019 #119

Lol! That hit me the same way too! cwydro Jun 2019 #132

What "intent" is that? (nt) ehrnst Jun 2019 #136

One or the other will though LiberalLovinLug Jun 2019 #24

That sounds very plausible. Tiggeroshii Jun 2019 #29

Polling has suggested Sanders' supporters second choice is Biden. emmaverybo Jun 2019 #58

This message was self-deleted by its author OilemFirchen Jun 2019 #90

lol.. you've been told, George! Cha Jun 2019 #75

. MrsCoffee Jun 2019 #88

Either Warren or Sanders must get out or...they split the vote...so I hope they both Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #12

Nah they will simply add to the proportion of like minded Democrats through persuasion. Tiggeroshii Jun 2019 #15

Biden will have an unbreakable lead in my opinion on super Tuesday. Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #16

Well he has almost year to get that to happen Tiggeroshii Jun 2019 #17

I don't see it as fragile...there are moderate Democrats who will vote for Biden... Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #18

It is fragile only at this point. Tiggeroshii Jun 2019 #40

How can you tell his lead is fragile? Measuring its strength by his opponents' swift-boating only emmaverybo Jun 2019 #55

Certainly is fear here. Coming from a certain camp. cwydro Jun 2019 #140

With sanders holding a 33% negativity and 20% of Americans wanting him to drop out of the race Thekaspervote Jun 2019 #42

It won't happen, but if Sander's supporters switched to Warren that would be a game changer still_one Jun 2019 #21

Nice fantasy .... LibFarmer Jun 2019 #25

Good luck with that Green Line Jun 2019 #2

Ammmmmmmeeennnnnn Butterflylady Jun 2019 #6

The only movement of support will be from BS to Warren, and we've already seen it starting. George II Jun 2019 #11

.. Cha Jun 2019 #126

Poach? That's a loaded word. It implies a nefarious approach to gain support. Politicub Jun 2019 #3

The week doesn't usually use loaded words like these. hedda_foil Jun 2019 #8

UK English usage? bluewater Jun 2019 #9

Good point customerserviceguy Jun 2019 #69

I think some are trying to use Warren's momentum to attack other Dems blm Jun 2019 #20

I think you are right Andy823 Jun 2019 #34

👍🏼 blm Jun 2019 #37

Never switch to Warren or anyone else...He is the only one who can win. I won't back anyone else Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #10

They won't "poach", or "snag", or "snatch" me or any other sincere Biden voters.... George II Jun 2019 #100

They wish...the next set of polls will show nothing has changed in my opinion...and I believe Biden Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #108

I don't think it's a bad idea for her to pitch to Biden supporters kcr Jun 2019 #13

Never happen quickesst Jun 2019 #14

I don't think this is really Warren's team - blm Jun 2019 #36

Okay quickesst Jun 2019 #107

I have a different view on this.. all the candidates should be pitching to everyone! Peacetrain Jun 2019 #22

Well said and plus 1 emulatorloo Jun 2019 #26

Yes... nailed that one Thekaspervote Jun 2019 #43

Mahalo, Peacetrain! Cha Jun 2019 #76

The assessment that Biden supporters are getting ready to bolt I don't think is correct still_one Jun 2019 #23

Yep. Scurrilous Jun 2019 #72

I like Elizabeth Warren. BUT . . . peggysue2 Jun 2019 #27

Thank you... finally some sanity!! Thekaspervote Jun 2019 #45

Point by point, an excellent analysis, one that explains his lead, and the basis of his support. The emmaverybo Jun 2019 #61

Warren is trying to move the center to the left, the same way Reagan moved it right. marylandblue Jun 2019 #77

Gracias, Peggysue, for laying out Cha Jun 2019 #96

lol fail ! stonecutter357 Jun 2019 #28

Warren could win the primary but not the General redstateblues Jun 2019 #30

My biggest fear DrToast Jun 2019 #32

We'll see how that works in the first debate customerserviceguy Jun 2019 #70

She doesn't have baggage. She's a clean, straight-shooter blm Jun 2019 #35

I like Elizabeth, but Hillary pulverized trump in the debates..and here we are lunamagica Jun 2019 #56

I asked that question in a response post to that claim. What "baggage"? nt Blue_true Jun 2019 #114

I have friend that live in Massachusetts. Blue_true Jun 2019 #113

The whole ancestry thing was badly bungled redstateblues Jun 2019 #121

She did bungle it, but now she recovered. As long as she stays on message, she's good. marylandblue Jun 2019 #149

Trump tried that Pocahontas thing against her when she campaigned for Hillary in 2016. Blue_true Jun 2019 #152

The Massachusetts people say that was tried against her in the General of her Blue_true Jun 2019 #151

Or Progressive Change could speak to her strengths and accomplishments. emulatorloo Jun 2019 #31

This stream of divisive posts feels more like an undermining of Warren blm Jun 2019 #33

Doesn't it thou!! Thekaspervote Jun 2019 #47

The post kicking off this discussion is the problem. It certainly doesn't express anything positive emmaverybo Jun 2019 #63

I concur blm Jun 2019 #73

It will be interesting to see where the Biden supporters go when he eventually withdraws. DCofVA Jun 2019 #41

Really??? I didn't sense that all Thekaspervote Jun 2019 #49

If Joe goes, I have a feeling most of us will be taking a second look at Kamala Harris. I will. nt Tarheel_Dem Jun 2019 #89

Poach? NYMinute Jun 2019 #44

That's because Biden's backers "are ready to bolt," progressoid Jun 2019 #48

Biden has the best chance to beat Trump Vegas Roller Jun 2019 #50

We'll have to agree to BlueMTexpat Jun 2019 #64

thats the funny part...biden never had any support in a presidental primary, either time he ran questionseverything Jun 2019 #82

This message was self-deleted by its author TwilightZone Jun 2019 #98

Disagree. TwilightZone Jun 2019 #99

the progressive vote isnt just sanders and warren, you would have to include anyone that was backing questionseverything Jun 2019 #102

Friends from Massachusetts said that when she first announced for the US Senate, Blue_true Jun 2019 #115

What's funny is that they really have no idea who is switching. MineralMan Jun 2019 #51

Go for it! Faux pas Jun 2019 #52

Well, Biden isn't even among my top five for the BlueMTexpat Jun 2019 #62

They don't have to poach Biden's supporters, just have to wait till he implodes. Autumn Jun 2019 #74

Another nasty and insulting anti-Biden comment, but also offensive to his supporters here. NT emmaverybo Jun 2019 #97

Everything is nasty and insulting to you. Sorry but Biden is 24 on my list. Autumn Jun 2019 #110

I will just refrain from commenting on your comments. emmaverybo Jun 2019 #118

That works for me. nt Autumn Jun 2019 #120

I am not the first on DU to call you on your offensive attitude, and I will not be the last. NT emmaverybo Jun 2019 #122

Here you go emmaverybo, let me help you out. Autumn Jun 2019 #131

Yeah, it's pretty obvious isn't it? cwydro Jun 2019 #135

Good idea. Thanks. emmaverybo Jun 2019 #141

Biden Supporters are more likely to support Beto O'Rourke JI7 Jun 2019 #93

Joe Biden is the most electable candidate that the Democratic Party has available Gothmog Jun 2019 #104

LOL at Green's fantasy that Biden supporters are "ready to bolt." highplainsdem Jun 2019 #105

I'm not "ready to bolt". BlueTsunami2018 Jun 2019 #106

how about Beto ? JI7 Jun 2019 #123

I thought he ran a great campaign against Cruz. BlueTsunami2018 Jun 2019 #124

i think he may have a better ground game and GOTV than Biden JI7 Jun 2019 #125

this is a mistake KayF Jun 2019 #109

Promise to lock up trump and the election is yours. nt ecstatic Jun 2019 #127

"The two big honeypots for Warren are actually Biden supporters and undecided voters" marylandblue Jun 2019 #150