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emmaverybo

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394. He was not responsible for damaging Hill or even trying to. Clarence Thomas, ironically, used

Mon Jul 1, 2019, 03:03 PM

Jul 2019

a claim of racial injustice to deflect from her case against him. Biden got a hearing for her grievance, launched no attack on her credibility, but tested Thomas’s.

He voted against Thomas twice. He has always supported Hill’s case against Thomas and praised her throughout the years.

Never was a case of Biden vs. Hill. Thomas, by lying, and conservatives, through smears, attacked her credibility and reputation.

At the time, Hill had little support from the African-American public who believed that the hearing was racist as Thomas claimed. Dems on the committee were cowed, politically in a bind, with Kennedy snd others, except for Biden, playing softball with Thomas, or not playing at all.

Anyone wanting to weigh in should either get a video of proceedings or a full transcript.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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It bothers me that Harris's attack on Biden was apparently coldly calculated in advance, [View all] highplainsdem Jun 2019 OP

What a hurtful thing to say... RHMerriman Jun 2019 #1

LOL. That was a gotcha. nt emmaverybo Jun 2019 #24

The black community has EVERY right to confront insensitivity in any way that works. DemocracyMouse Jun 2019 #206

Oh my gawd. Biden needs to be stronger, but he does not represent represent the panoply emmaverybo Jun 2019 #211

I wasn't "flaming" - I'm genuinely sick of this "get Kamala" bullying, when the problem was... DemocracyMouse Jun 2019 #215

Well, ok. Yes, you were writing in caps. You feel anger on behalf of Harris. Every person here will emmaverybo Jun 2019 #222

Your thoughts are beautifully expressed and I agree with much of it... DemocracyMouse Jun 2019 #256

Hillary grew up middle class. Trump grew up rich. Your "class superiority" theory can't be emulatorloo Jun 2019 #320

I see what you did there! cannabis_flower Jun 2019 #357

Much of AA Community was behind the crime bill. Progressive Senator Bernie Sanders voted for it emulatorloo Jun 2019 #387

What about a more recent time when Sen. Harris was the DA and AG ? Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #392

Well considering that cannabis_flower Jul 2019 #396

It is the reason I support your candidate if for some reason Biden isn't in it...and I think he will Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #398

Also, frankly, who gets called "coldly calculating" ? dawg day Jun 2019 #311

Right. And thats proven by AA support for Joe going up 18% onetexan Jun 2019 #254

Oh please that was not what went on...a political hit...lets not pretend this was a profound moment. Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #271

Obama is the epitome True Blue American Jun 2019 #282

I adore Pres. Obama. He was the best president of my lifetime... Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #319

What an excellent response. guillaumeb Jun 2019 #336

+1 n/t ariadne0614 Jun 2019 #360

Harris does not strike me as angry, she strikes me as both emotional and cynical... RHMerriman Jun 2019 #302

Sorry, Biden has no one to blame but himself. brush Jun 2019 #275

Undoubtedly, but it says a lot about Harris that her team seized on RHMerriman Jun 2019 #303

Politics is not bean bags. IMO it shows that she manages to display her skills and shine... brush Jun 2019 #309

Kavanaugh and Barr, however, are our enemies... RHMerriman Jun 2019 #312

Mixed record? Seriously? Sorry, but Joe was defending "states rights" as his response to her... brush Jun 2019 #326

Do you have anything Biden did on race in the last 20 years that's objectionable? emulatorloo Jun 2019 #338

Again, Joe is the one who bought up segregationists from 40 years ago. brush Jun 2019 #341

Are you really arguing that supporting federally-ordered mandatory busing of public school children RHMerriman Jun 2019 #354

I don't get it either. Nt BootinUp Jul 2019 #397

There are some pretty good old-fashioned words that come to mind... RHMerriman Jul 2019 #416

He was not responsible for damaging Hill or even trying to. Clarence Thomas, ironically, used emmaverybo Jul 2019 #394

Biden unfortunately as chairman of the committee didn't allow other women... brush Jul 2019 #399

One woman refused to. He weighed calling on her as a hostile witness. Counsel to the emmaverybo Jul 2019 #412

She created this 'opportunity' And it was dishonest too...facts don't add up...t-shirt ready to Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #363

You're blaming her for Joe's misstep? He inexplicably bought up the incident... brush Jun 2019 #371

He'd mentioned it before so she probably had it ready to go before that fundraiser. ucrdem Jun 2019 #372

He is known to be gaffe-prone but this was way more than a gaffe. Hope he gets past it... brush Jun 2019 #373

She.. harris has said herself "they" she and campaign staff had been planning this for months Thekaspervote Jul 2019 #401

Yeah, that t-shirt thing did kinda make people wonder. InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2019 #430

Smack! LongtimeAZDem Jun 2019 #298

Says a lot about Harris that her team RHMerriman Jun 2019 #305

And playing the "you hurt my feelings" card is not exactly presidential LongtimeAZDem Jun 2019 #317

Nope ... it's actually pretty much an admission of weakness. RHMerriman Jun 2019 #356

Hope she doesn't do that if she ever debates that crude lump. He'd hurt 'em some more. emmaverybo Jun 2019 #381

why do you put quotation marks around things she didn't say? tishaLA Jul 2019 #414

It seems weird to me that DU is projecting Donald Trump's very real racism onto Biden emulatorloo Jun 2019 #321

Nothing like self-righteousness to make weak people feel strong... RHMerriman Jun 2019 #358

Very strange. Biden wants to defeat the White Supremacist enabler. He rolled out his campaign emmaverybo Jun 2019 #382

Indeed!! Thekaspervote Jul 2019 #402

That's exactly what's happening. RelativelyJones Jul 2019 #427

Every candidate preplans a "Gotcha moment" left-of-center2012 Jun 2019 #2

Preplanned gotcha moments aren't IMO half as effective as genuine, spontaneous reactions. highplainsdem Jun 2019 #4

You know what also works....humor...but it's easier to just go low. nt UniteFightBack Jun 2019 #158

One person did their homework, the other one blew off their debate prep as reported by his aids. TheBlackAdder Jun 2019 #160

His aides say he "blew off" debate prep? cwydro Jun 2019 #224

Yup, per TBOGG directly. TheBlackAdder Jun 2019 #240

This is troubling on a number of levels. cwydro Jun 2019 #263

She lost me ...I never thought she could win a general...but as VP maybe...hell if Biden was gone, Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #322

Well, it worked I guess.. she's "the star" of Cha Jun 2019 #3

If it's any help to you, it turned me off her. Honeycombe8 Jun 2019 #17

if Kamala attacked Biden to gain AA support, she did just the opposite onetexan Jun 2019 #29

It means something.. Thank You, Honeycombe! Cha Jun 2019 #42

Indeed! Pollsters keep saying SC is the bellwether for the AA vote Thekaspervote Jul 2019 #403

Thank You, Thekaspervote! Cha Jul 2019 #408

Moi aussi! Mme. Defarge Jun 2019 #57

I was pretty impressed with Harris's PatSeg Jun 2019 #128

Do white candidates ever play the race card? people Jun 2019 #185

No, because they're white and don't have a race. They're just "people." StarfishSaver Jun 2019 #195

the entire republican party is is about playing the race card in favor of white people JI7 Jun 2019 #202

I read Kamala's book a few months ago FakeNoose Jun 2019 #194

She has a great story PatSeg Jun 2019 #260

Post removed Post removed Jun 2019 #389

"The race card?" You mean referring to her own experience? dawg day Jun 2019 #313

There is a reason I put "race card" in quotes PatSeg Jun 2019 #366

She misrepresented her own story. She was not bused under Federal mandate. NT emmaverybo Jul 2019 #395

I agree with you 1,000%. She showed me the real Kamala, last night. I am disgusted. Skya Rhen Jun 2019 #5

So you're not buying a T shirt? dem4decades Jun 2019 #8

Agree that the rush to sell the t-shirt was also bad, and also probably planned highplainsdem Jun 2019 #11

Yeah, I have to agree with you there... t-shirts, really?! InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2019 #54

A crass and blatant giveaway Mme. Defarge Jun 2019 #66

Re the t-shirt -- check out the replies to the CBS News tweet and story about it: highplainsdem Jun 2019 #134

LOVE the t-shirt, LOVE the debate smackdown. Kamala's got the smarts and moxie to chimpymustgo Jun 2019 #369

That photo took no time to find because it has been out there for MONTHS, pnwmom Jun 2019 #13

T-shirts take a little longer. The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2019 #20

So? She's been telling that personal story for months now. Nicolle Wallace said that pnwmom Jun 2019 #45

"....succeeded in life in part because of advances in civil rights...." 3Hotdogs Jun 2019 #111

President Obama's parents luvtheGWN Jun 2019 #117

Yeah. Well I just hope it ain't her. 3Hotdogs Jun 2019 #118

Oh I have to agree!! Thekaspervote Jul 2019 #404

I said, "in part." She could only attend the public school she did because of pnwmom Jun 2019 #137

She was not an inner city kid...educated parents...lived in Berkley...wait until the oppo research Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #323

I am familiar with Berkeley, are you? pnwmom Jun 2019 #328

We were there when I was little, it was a very nice place as I remember it... Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #329

Parts of it weren't so nice. Your parents might not have taken you there. pnwmom Jun 2019 #335

Yeah...and what year was that picture taken? I went to schools that were not that great to...my Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #364

Were you forced to go to a certain school or prevented from living in a nicer neighborhood pnwmom Jun 2019 #365

They can be printed to order jberryhill Jun 2019 #48

I'm not disgusted by her, but I was disappointed to realize how calculated what I'd first thought highplainsdem Jun 2019 #16

So... techne7319 Jun 2019 #153

Biden was showing his integrity and character by honoring the agreement friend of m and j Jun 2019 #210

I have no doubt... techne7319 Jun 2019 #213

I have a problem with insincerity and emotional manipulation, which was my takeaway from highplainsdem Jun 2019 #249

Mining one's own painful and personal history for its political advantage is not a good thing. NT emmaverybo Jun 2019 #27

Oh my jberryhill Jun 2019 #52

LOL. None of the other candidates ever mention their own stories of struggle, do they? pnwmom Jun 2019 #58

It's the seemingly "calculated" part that's the objection as well stated in the OP. Cha Jun 2019 #79

But the OP is wrong about the photo. It's been all over the Internet since January, pnwmom Jun 2019 #95

So she's worried that advances in Civil Rights are threatened. 3Hotdogs Jun 2019 #113

No. But he constantly talks about how he's willing to work with the other side. pnwmom Jun 2019 #132

Biden voted True Blue American Jun 2019 #237

Biden was chair of the Judiciary Committee. We needed him to do more than just vote no. StarfishSaver Jun 2019 #245

So? He made decisions that made it easier for other Dems to vote yes. pnwmom Jun 2019 #291

But Harris said she agreed with Biden on working with the other side though emulatorloo Jun 2019 #340

We have decades of Biden's career showing us how he's worked pnwmom Jun 2019 #343

But Harris explicitly said to Biden that she agreed with him on working with the other side. emulatorloo Jun 2019 #347

Clarence Thomas is my main argument. pnwmom Jun 2019 #349

The issue is HOW you work with the other side. And whether Biden's compromises pnwmom Jul 2019 #410

Yes it should... Americans by overwhelming poll approval want the 2 sides to work together Thekaspervote Jul 2019 #405

It matters HOW you work with the other side. In his eagerness to work with the other side, pnwmom Jul 2019 #411

You can recognize it's her even as a little girl. Ligyron Jun 2019 #135

I love that photo. What a strong little girl. n/t pnwmom Jun 2019 #138

And when do Democrats ever accuse white male Democrats of being "calculating"? pnwmom Jun 2019 #101

IKR mobeau69 Jun 2019 #133

I don't think they will attack rivals in service of their own ambitions, armed with personal emmaverybo Jun 2019 #353

And you, personally, would never support a candidate who did such a thing, would you? pnwmom Jun 2019 #60

It's the seemingly "calculated" part that is objectionable.. Cha Jun 2019 #71

Uh, Joe Biden does that frequently, and I don't mind it at all. dawg day Jun 2019 #314

He has never used personal pain to bring down another candidate not responsible for it, to advance emmaverybo Jun 2019 #331

I wish she had used some of that prosecutorial know-how COLGATE4 Jun 2019 #119

I remember her being the best interrogator of Barr tishaLA Jun 2019 #179

She didn't go after Sanders last night on the issue, even though HE was against busing in the 1970s. George II Jun 2019 #6

Good point. highplainsdem Jun 2019 #7

I'm sure she'll have a way of using his record against him, too tishaLA Jun 2019 #12

She won't have to go after Bernie customerserviceguy Jun 2019 #99

I wonder if she will try the same thing twice Beringia Jun 2019 #103

If her poll numbers go up customerserviceguy Jun 2019 #115

I actually agree re: the junior senator from VT tishaLA Jun 2019 #110

Not necessarily customerserviceguy Jun 2019 #120

That would be unfortunate if she did that tishaLA Jun 2019 #143

We'll have to wait and see customerserviceguy Jun 2019 #149

Unfortunately, some people are going to be considering how this will play nationally. 58Sunliner Jun 2019 #188

That's a prosecutor trick customerserviceguy Jun 2019 #191

I would bet most won't forget and she doesn't get the nomination. She is not playing to a jury. 58Sunliner Jun 2019 #207

She's acting like she is. customerserviceguy Jun 2019 #208

I think she miscalculated. 58Sunliner Jun 2019 #362

She indeed has to fair well in the SC primary, right now it doesn't look like it's going her way Thekaspervote Jul 2019 #407

It looks like customerserviceguy Jul 2019 #409

Worse and worser. Fine for the courtroom, but not for a candidate who leads America out of emmaverybo Jun 2019 #36

Sanders support has already reached its ceiling, and it's dropping. pnwmom Jun 2019 #61

You're kidding!? OMG.. BS was against busing, too..Wow.. Cha Jun 2019 #102

Bazinga! George II Jun 2019 #106

Sanders has... techne7319 Jun 2019 #154

Sanders does not have much support among minorities JI7 Jun 2019 #204

That childhood photo has long been out there. I found it in SECONDS. pnwmom Jun 2019 #9

Why do you keep repeating this? Out there already, but not used in this manipulative context emmaverybo Jun 2019 #114

Because the whole premise of the OP was that the fact they could quickly tweet out the photo pnwmom Jun 2019 #124

No-it was that the exact phrase she used last night was on a t-shirt with the photo, 58Sunliner Jun 2019 #192

Where was it on her twitter feed? I just looked through her Twitter all day June 27 and 28th pnwmom Jun 2019 #212

Sorry, it was picked up by CBS news twitter the night of the debate from her campaign Instagram. 58Sunliner Jun 2019 #296

Politicians prepare for debates. tishaLA Jun 2019 #10

Oh ok... techne7319 Jun 2019 #14

She's too ambitious StarfishSaver Jun 2019 #155

Unladylike too Hekate Jun 2019 #216

She didn't plan his response melman Jun 2019 #15

I'm sure that he never thought that she would insinuate that he was a racist. Anyone would be taken Skya Rhen Jun 2019 #21

I mean, it was a story just last weekend. tishaLA Jun 2019 #23

Kamala: "I don't believe that you are a racist, but..." In essence, she called him a racist. Skya Rhen Jun 2019 #30

You're actually misquoting her. She never said "I don't believe you're a racist, but" tishaLA Jun 2019 #40

She didn't call him a racist. Blue_true Jun 2019 #83

No putdown. I am a black woman and proud of it. This is why I speak with cred when I say Skya Rhen Jun 2019 #178

Then I defer to you. Blue_true Jun 2019 #361

I'm remind of this quote: "Nothing someone says before the word 'but' really counts" hlthe2b Jun 2019 #238

Not in this personal a way, with an entire scene played out, using self-revelation to score points. emmaverybo Jun 2019 #43

Actually, Sen Booker was quite personal about it too tishaLA Jun 2019 #50

I'm actually surprise by how many she did turn off.. Cha Jun 2019 #112

i dont want a prosecutor in general questionseverything Jun 2019 #37

Oh how true! Thekaspervote Jun 2019 #74

Hear hear! defacto7 Jun 2019 #130

I think a 70-something white career politician would not need to be handled with kid gloves RockRaven Jun 2019 #49

This StarfishSaver Jun 2019 #156

BINGO!!!!!! nt Blue_true Jun 2019 #72

I beg to differ. Mme. Defarge Jun 2019 #88

His responsive was too reactive womanofthehills Jun 2019 #139

He reacted to it in proportion to the Mme. Defarge Jun 2019 #151

What is up with everyone... techne7319 Jun 2019 #18

Quit whining about who you perceive as whining. LakeArenal Jun 2019 #33

Deny deny deny... attack techne7319 Jun 2019 #73

Harris uses identity politics to attack her opponents. Galraedia Jun 2019 #175

And I'll argue that... techne7319 Jun 2019 #183

Team Trump will destroy Kamala Harris. Galraedia Jun 2019 #198

You are the attacker. Not I... LakeArenal Jun 2019 #193

Round and round... techne7319 Jun 2019 #203

YOU brought up whining. And still you whine. LakeArenal Jun 2019 #261

It's the tactic. It's the low blow. It's what this says about character. Aside from a killer emmaverybo Jun 2019 #67

Your right to your opinion techne7319 Jun 2019 #80

I wholeheartedly agree with your statement. defacto7 Jun 2019 #145

I also respect Buttigieg for his honest answers about Southbend, his having done a tough thing emmaverybo Jun 2019 #176

white male privilege, in part Skittles Jun 2019 #78

Perhaps techne7319 Jun 2019 #86

oh I have noticed Skittles Jun 2019 #187

Thank you techne7319 Jun 2019 #197

Lighten up, Francis. Not everything is a conspiracy. emulatorloo Jun 2019 #332

This message was self-deleted by its author techne7319 Jun 2019 #346

Making up nasty names for a candidate's supporters is frowned on around here n/t emulatorloo Jun 2019 #351

She benefited from a voluntary busing program that she accused Biden of opposing. ucrdem Jun 2019 #19

Actually, I think her point was that more students could have benefited tishaLA Jun 2019 #26

She said "that was hurtful to me" in an emotional tone. ucrdem Jun 2019 #32

Yes, that's called empathy. tishaLA Jun 2019 #41

It was a false accusation on top of a false accusation. ucrdem Jun 2019 #51

Honestly, I don't expect his supporters to like it tishaLA Jun 2019 #53

I hadn't analyzed it completely until now but it was thoroughly disgraceful. ucrdem Jun 2019 #59

The optics frequently differ... tonedevil Jul 2019 #393

Never - I know a few neighbors of mine who are convinced that she can win the general. I do not Skya Rhen Jun 2019 #56

Biden was the perfect target because he IS empathetic, and older, and male. ucrdem Jun 2019 #70

Im Kind of the flip side of DU on this FreeState Jun 2019 #84

Okay but where was the pain? She went to a good school in Berkeley. ucrdem Jun 2019 #87

In her voice when she spoke n/t FreeState Jun 2019 #89

Yes, but that's what we're objecting to. ucrdem Jun 2019 #91

I disagree FreeState Jun 2019 #98

I felt it. It was effective. But it was wrong to accuse Biden of hurting her. nt ucrdem Jun 2019 #104

She even tried to link Joe to the fact that a little white girl was told by her mother not to Skya Rhen Jun 2019 #167

She lived in northwest Berkeley it turns out ucrdem Jun 2019 #223

omg. Cha Jun 2019 #234

She is a lawyer. 58Sunliner Jun 2019 #196

Her pain? Gimme a break. She is a highly successful attorney with a tough personality redstateblues Jun 2019 #180

That's not a world I would want to live in FreeState Jun 2019 #184

Joe shows empathy. Kamala not so much redstateblues Jun 2019 #189

Are you serious? angrychair Jun 2019 #163

Sadly I agree. Hillary has said more than once that Americans are not ready for a woman president Thekaspervote Jun 2019 #85

Sooooo angrychair Jun 2019 #166

It was faked and the 'I was that girl'...implying Biden hurt her...really disgusting. Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #273

I don't buy that for one small second. Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #325

You've replied to this one post of mine twice tishaLA Jun 2019 #330

Sorry...missed that. Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #337

If it were me, I'd be more sorry tishaLA Jun 2019 #339

I didn't call her liar...now did I? But you know Sen. Harris did imply in her pre-planned attack Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #342

to fake something is, in fact, to lie tishaLA Jun 2019 #348

You can't be hurt that easily treestar Jun 2019 #100

Your reasoning is sounding like whats going on with abortion and the states womanofthehills Jun 2019 #144

This reminds me of the 2016 debate with Sec Clinton tishaLA Jun 2019 #22

I have nothing against preparing for debates. As I said in the OP, I was on debate teams for years. highplainsdem Jun 2019 #39

I go back to what I said: politicians prepare attack lines tishaLA Jun 2019 #47

You understand debate. Corgigal Jun 2019 #257

I want more than just debate skill, which is partly acting skill and partly logic and rhetoric, from highplainsdem Jun 2019 #258

It's part of the show. Corgigal Jun 2019 #259

I think after 8 years of GWB, then 8 of Obama, then 4 of Trump, it's be nice for RockRaven Jun 2019 #25

Not when it is cooked up nonsense... prepared would have been to argue issues...50 year old Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #327

and lord knows being cold and calculating is just for boys. mopinko Jun 2019 #28

Got it in one, mopinko Hekate Jun 2019 #217

You have to understand why all those candidates are there. Each one wants to WIN! napi21 Jun 2019 #31

Sometimes the best thing to do is apologize mountain grammy Jun 2019 #44

That's partly because his current schtick is "working across the aisle." localroger Jun 2019 #92

They all want to win. StarfishSaver Jun 2019 #164

Biden should have seen that coming from two weeks away BeyondGeography Jun 2019 #34

yup. Not ready not electable floppyboo Jun 2019 #109

Joe just needs to get his "sea legs" under him. Im sure he'll be better prepared for the next debate InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2019 #429

His staff knew it was coming but DURHAM D Jun 2019 #121

He also didn't listen to them when they told him not to use his relationship with Eastland BeyondGeography Jun 2019 #129

I found that unsettling as well Raven123 Jun 2019 #35

Oh man jcgoldie Jun 2019 #38

That photo has been on the internet for months now and is in her book Kaleva Jun 2019 #46

Yes, it has. Thanks for posting. n/t pnwmom Jun 2019 #63

or the author of that article is just trying to be divisive. Thomas Hurt Jun 2019 #55

Exactly why shouldn't she be prepared? Blue_true Jun 2019 #62

This message was self-deleted by its author Aaron Pereira Jun 2019 #64

coldly calculated or she was well planned and prepared IronLionZion Jun 2019 #65

Swalwell was calculating but not cold. Had he suggested that Biden was a racist then he would Skya Rhen Jun 2019 #77

Like it or not, politics is a dirty business... ADX Jun 2019 #68

Oh, you mean her... UncleTomsEvilBrother Jun 2019 #69

Harris and Booker are still making hay as are many posters. And MSM is running a decent man into emmaverybo Jun 2019 #81

I don't see it as Biden and supporters harping, but the other way round. He is the outstanding Thekaspervote Jun 2019 #96

Thanks for pointing out the sexism. yardwork Jun 2019 #286

or Skittles Jun 2019 #75

HE SAID IT.. own it or get off the stage. N/T NO Gotchas. JustFiveMoreMinutes Jun 2019 #76

I disagree. FoxNewsSucks Jun 2019 #82

I didn't see her defeating Trump. Biden is chivalrous in an old school way. He is also empathetic emmaverybo Jun 2019 #90

That's true, FoxNewsSucks Jun 2019 #108

They should play cold, hard, even dirty with Republicans, Damaging any candidate's reputation emmaverybo Jun 2019 #201

She won't beat Trump...so we have to hope that Biden can win...I think he can. Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #274

Cold and calculating is not what voters are after. Yes, removing the dotard is top priority Thekaspervote Jun 2019 #107

Call it what you will, FoxNewsSucks Jun 2019 #116

More than anything, this election depends on votes, on an electoral college pathway, on those votes. emmaverybo Jun 2019 #205

Well, I agree with your post more than mine. No reason debates can't be civil. NT emmaverybo Jun 2019 #225

Prior to the debate, Biden was polling 50% of the black vote in South Carolina. hay rick Jun 2019 #93

If Biden hadn't opened the door last week by mentioning segregationists, this wouldn't have happened Hoyt Jun 2019 #94

Yes it would have...the t-shirts and all the other crap show this was planned for a while... Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #324

Yeah, it would have been a lot better if she hadn't prepared and let your guy win, eh? Wounded Bear Jun 2019 #97

she is a former prosecutor and a skillful one at that AlexSFCA Jun 2019 #105

I wouldn't applaud. I like him because he has shown political skill without sacrificing integrity. emmaverybo Jun 2019 #123

all I am saying that this was a smart move for her AlexSFCA Jun 2019 #126

Exactement! Mme. Defarge Jun 2019 #147

Here comes the spin machine, desperately trying to do damage control Tarc Jun 2019 #122

Meh Thekaspervote Jun 2019 #131

You are gloating prematurely. She tarnished herself a bit and tipped her hand too early in the game. emmaverybo Jun 2019 #136

or double down AlexSFCA Jun 2019 #140

Someone needs to pull up his big-boy pants Tarc Jun 2019 #264

Frankly, if she were a man Bettie Jun 2019 #125

She saw it as an effective debate move... it doesn't seem to be playing well Thekaspervote Jun 2019 #141

The point is that you seem very angry Bettie Jun 2019 #142

Not angry at all. She saw what she did as a way to go after her opponent Thekaspervote Jun 2019 #146

fyi, fivethirtyeight released a poll today shanny Jun 2019 #186

I predict that will be a temporary bump and she will drop back down soon Pachamama Jun 2019 #219

She might. The first debate may turn out to be shanny Jun 2019 #267

Amen! DesertRat Jun 2019 #214

Seems to me that her lady parts are being taken into DURHAM D Jun 2019 #127

She used a bid for sympathy for the "little girl" Biden had hurt, emoting righteous indignation emmaverybo Jun 2019 #157

+1,000,000. It was a very emotional "you hurt me" plea for sympathy, which IS effective highplainsdem Jun 2019 #181

Why? It bothers you that Dems Plan and Have a Strategy to Win? bitterross Jun 2019 #148

Meh. BlueWI Jun 2019 #150

Most politicians calculate every move they make and everything they say. ... spin Jun 2019 #152

The real Kamala was revealed last night. Skya Rhen Jun 2019 #159

I was impressed too. /nt tonedevil Jul 2019 #406

Are Male Politicians Ever Labeled as Calculating? dlk Jun 2019 #161

The repukes sure are. I often see calculating ascribed to McConnell. 58Sunliner Jun 2019 #199

I would label Swalwell as calculating Bayard Jun 2019 #270

Swallwell Merely Repeated Biden's Own Words dlk Jun 2019 #278

Last night Kamala Harris gave us a preview of the knockout punch she'll deliver to Donald Trump mtnsnake Jun 2019 #162

Biden Isn't Very Deft In Such Matters DallasNE Jun 2019 #165

Whether her attack was right or wrong, depending on how you feel, calguy Jun 2019 #168

Agreed. BlueWI Jun 2019 #370

Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2019 #169

As a woman, I completely disagree with your generalization Pachamama Jun 2019 #220

Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2019 #241

10 days on DU and in single post to me, a member for 15 years, you manage to accuse me of sexism, Pachamama Jun 2019 #242

Post removed Post removed Jun 2019 #243

Now you say DU is full of Bigots? Pachamama Jun 2019 #247

I agree with you StarfishSaver Jun 2019 #246

It's called debate prep StarfishSaver Jun 2019 #170

If Kamala's attack was to get more POC on her side it doesn't Cha Jun 2019 #171

Me too Pepsidog Jun 2019 #172

I like Harris, but I said last night she was relying on yanking peoples chain emotionally. 58Sunliner Jun 2019 #173

Thank you. Mme. Defarge Jun 2019 #218

+1000 Thekaspervote Jun 2019 #380

Makes me wonder what Pics she has ready for her debate with Trump!! aeromanKC Jun 2019 #174

I would not bet on Trump agreeing to debate any Democrat. highplainsdem Jun 2019 #182

So.. Ztolkins Jun 2019 #177

Cue the crickets. BlueWI Jun 2019 #368

Booker has been all over him on the race issue Ztolkins Jul 2019 #390

Interesting angrychair Jun 2019 #190

Yeah, 'cause that's a first in politics... Hekate Jun 2019 #200

+1 SunSeeker Jun 2019 #233

+2 MrsCoffee Jun 2019 #250

It was pretty awesome and effective. aikoaiko Jun 2019 #209

What should bother you about that exchange is that Biden was not prepared for it. SunSeeker Jun 2019 #221

He defended his civil rights record forcefully. He corrected Harris on her key points. ucrdem Jun 2019 #226

He should have had a better response than defending state's rights. SunSeeker Jun 2019 #228

Biden didn't defend states rights and it's just plain lazy to claim that he did. nt ucrdem Jun 2019 #229

Yes he did. How is it "lazy" to point out what he said? Come on. SunSeeker Jun 2019 #230

He didn't say it or allude to it last night. ucrdem Jun 2019 #231

He didn't say he opposed it because it was "massively hated," you did. SunSeeker Jun 2019 #232

Cory didn't say it either. And if he does he'll be wrong. ucrdem Jun 2019 #235

If Biden doesn't acknowledge his mistakes, he can't fix them. SunSeeker Jun 2019 #295

The point is that the press can call it states rights but Biden didn't and we shouldn't. ucrdem Jun 2019 #297

It's not a "lazy characterization." He clearly invoked a states rights argument. SunSeeker Jun 2019 #300

No, he did not. And you haven't provided any quotes to show otherwise. nt ucrdem Jun 2019 #301

Yes I did. See posts 232 above. Here, I'll give it to you again: SunSeeker Jun 2019 #304

Those are press accounts, not Biden statements. nt ucrdem Jun 2019 #306

Biden QUOTE: "...what I opposed is busing ordered by the Department of Education." SunSeeker Jun 2019 #307

No mentions of states rights. As I think I've pointed out once or twice. ucrdem Jun 2019 #308

Biden used the argument, not the term. SunSeeker Jun 2019 #334

The term he used is "local decision made by your city council." ucrdem Jul 2019 #413

Opposing federal mandate in favor of "local decision" is a states rights argument. SunSeeker Jul 2019 #415

School districts are not states. nt ucrdem Jul 2019 #417

School districts are part of the local/state govt states rights advocates wanted trumping the feds. SunSeeker Jul 2019 #418

Her staged "moment" completely changed my opinion of her. democratisphere Jun 2019 #227

I've become undecided Lulu KC Jun 2019 #236

VP Biden must be able to handle the sudden, off the grid attacks... FarPoint Jun 2019 #239

You should be more bothered that Biden was unprepared... SidDithers Jun 2019 #244

If this was planned for months on her part it wouldn't have mattered what his answer was Thekaspervote Jun 2019 #379

Oh come on. MrsCoffee Jun 2019 #248

I like Harris and Biden. The proper thing is to attack Rump's constant racism. Mc Mike Jun 2019 #251

Nothing wrong with having a plan underpants Jun 2019 #252

"coldly calculated" vs "more sympathetic and likeable" ehrnst Jun 2019 #253

Nailed it... SidDithers Jun 2019 #255

Yep. It's the same mistreatment Hillary got. nt. SunSeeker Jul 2019 #420

As a woman, I find it amusing that you think my opinion here is sexist. I supported highplainsdem Jun 2019 #266

Straw man, anyone? ehrnst Jun 2019 #268

I agree Bev54 Jun 2019 #318

+1000 Thekaspervote Jun 2019 #378

Please, McConnell is also cold and calculating. This Atlantic article even described him as such... Skya Rhen Jun 2019 #269

"Also"? McConnell is evil, and coldly conspired to illegally deprive Obama of a SCOTUS seat. SunSeeker Jul 2019 #421

She's a prosecutor. She comes prepared MaryMagdaline Jun 2019 #262

Has anyone asked Senator Harris if she will campaigning on reinstating busing? emulatorloo Jun 2019 #345

Biden's support with AA voters following the debate jumped 18% Thekaspervote Jun 2019 #377

It made Warren the big winner of the night, to be honest. Eom tarheelsunc Jun 2019 #265

Post removed Post removed Jun 2019 #272

She's a career prosecutor, of course she is cold and calculating madville Jun 2019 #277

I have been saying, I am way more Perry Mason than Hamilton Burger. LakeArenal Jun 2019 #279

Somebody's Got to Say It yellowwoodII Jun 2019 #276

Didn't Hillary vote the same on the Iraq war? LakeArenal Jun 2019 #280

Yes, She Did yellowwoodII Jun 2019 #283

The Iraq war vote debate thing with him happened Thursday (and will again) It just got lost in the Celerity Jun 2019 #316

You are being sarcastic, right? Trueblue Texan Jun 2019 #281

I want candidates who are strategic and effective. yardwork Jun 2019 #284

Me, too. And ruthless in their attacks. Politicub Jun 2019 #287

Absolutely! This is not a tea party. yardwork Jun 2019 #289

It bothers me that Biden made a states rights argument Politicub Jun 2019 #285

same here..i even told hubby that now i feel harris will step all over others to get ahead.. samnsara Jun 2019 #288

Step over others? DU is driving me bananas this morning. Politicub Jun 2019 #292

"We need democrats to be more aggressive!!" Blue_Adept Jun 2019 #290

It was obviously planned, and at first I was taken aback with what seemed like crocodile tears... TreasonousBastard Jun 2019 #293

You honestly think Trump would care if he "hurt" her or that she could shame him? He'd just mug emmaverybo Jun 2019 #384

That is all too true, but shaming him isn't really the point, since... TreasonousBastard Jun 2019 #386

Good point. But her effectiveness to challenge Biden relied in part on discombobulating emmaverybo Jun 2019 #388

LOL @ "coldly calculated" vs "planned" Iggo Jun 2019 #294

Joe walked straight into a left hook in the main event slugfest, down for the count! Baclava Jun 2019 #299

I find it hard to believe that Joe Biden is so sensitive that the other candidates have to make nice dawg day Jun 2019 #310

He can't be tough...why she was a 'hurting little girl'...she played it so a gentleman like Biden's Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #333

Me too. And I was bussed around town to get to school. Rene Jun 2019 #315

Enough with the "coldly calculated" BS. shanny Jun 2019 #344

Yes, a man would be called "machiavellian" emulatorloo Jun 2019 #352

Doesn't bother me one bit. I'm bothered more by Biden not being ready Bucky Jun 2019 #350

It Was What It Was colsohlibgal Jun 2019 #355

Shows me she could deal with kim jung un very well. Irishxs Jun 2019 #359

Nah, he'd just say something hurtful LongtimeAZDem Jun 2019 #367

By saying he hurt her? Trying to make him say sorry to "that little girl?" And how much does emmaverybo Jun 2019 #383

Let me get this straight: a career prosecutor prepares a "gotcha" Recursion Jun 2019 #374

To compare how biden did against harris and how he will do against dotard is not a good comparison Thekaspervote Jul 2019 #400

Too bad Biden wasn't coldly calculating all the attacks that would be coming his way. He was TeamPooka Jun 2019 #375

He was caught being a gentleman that agreed not to attack other dems Thekaspervote Jun 2019 #376

This is politics not patty-cake... BlueJac Jun 2019 #385

Her story was misleading. She made herself the poster-girl for Federally mandated busing, but emmaverybo Jul 2019 #391

She did not "misrepresent herself." Nothing she said was a lie. SunSeeker Jul 2019 #419

Yes. Berkley Ca. for the past 150 years has been a liberal bastion. In fact, it has a emmaverybo Jul 2019 #422

Oh come on. The Bay Area has a long history of segregation. SunSeeker Jul 2019 #423

The free speech movement was about civil rights, not just saying the F word. Harris's school board emmaverybo Jul 2019 #425

As Harris pointed out, Berkeley did not integrate until 2 decades after Brown v. Bd. Of Ed. SunSeeker Jul 2019 #428

Gives me a lot to think about. Thanks. More fed money for schools, but people need housing help, emmaverybo Jul 2019 #431

This message was self-deleted by its author SunSeeker Jul 2019 #424

It was unnecessary wiley Jul 2019 #426