Democratic Primaries

SouthernProgressive

(1,810 posts) Tue Jul 2, 2019, 08:46 AM Jul 2019

Kamala Harris wants to bring busing back. [View all]

Sen. Kamala Harris (D-Calif.) is standing by her support for busing as an effective tool the federal government should use to help desegregate schools.

The 2020 presidential candidate doubled down on her busing comments Sunday in San Francisco after participating in the city’s Pride Parade, according to Bloomberg.

“I support busing,” she told reporters outside city hall. “Listen, the schools of America are as segregated, if not more segregated today than when I was in elementary school. And we need to put every effort, including busing, into play to desegregate the schools.”

NY Mag

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Kamala Harris wants to bring busing back. [View all] SouthernProgressive Jul 2019 OP

That is a sure loser of an idea. madaboutharry Jul 2019 #1

Those of us who lived through it, even in its "best" incarnation know this is handing RW a gift. hlthe2b Jul 2019 #10

Between busing and slavery reparations..trump will win as... Kahuna7 Jul 2019 #30

Busing and reparations aside, Turin_C3PO Jul 2019 #52

The new CNN poll shows otherwise regarding MFA - the majority of the respondents opposed Skya Rhen Jul 2019 #54

Maybe it was universal healthcare then, Turin_C3PO Jul 2019 #56

Universal healthcare is definitely a winner peggysue2 Jul 2019 #90

I think Turin_C3PO Jul 2019 #92

Agreed! peggysue2 Jul 2019 #95

That is a winner The Mouth Jul 2019 #123

This is a great example of how the wording and specifics matter Amishman Jul 2019 #121

Make Sure We Have This Correct: LovingA2andMI Jul 2019 #14

I said IN THE PRIMARIES. madaboutharry Jul 2019 #20

Uh huh.... LovingA2andMI Jul 2019 #22

Um it's pretty clearly written in his post. tymorial Jul 2019 #83

You couldn't have been more clear....not that it prevents your words from being twisted by some. InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2019 #78

Your quote includes the word primaries so it was clear what the poster meant...I agree. I won't Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #48

Perhaps Kamala thinks the best way to achieve racial equality is through busing... InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2019 #63

Thank you Senator Harris ucrdem Jul 2019 #2

more likely people wo go to someone other than both Harris and Biden JI7 Jul 2019 #3

Biden was prepared. ucrdem Jul 2019 #4

so this was all the plan ? JI7 Jul 2019 #7

Call it an unintended consequence. ucrdem Jul 2019 #12

Agree onetexan Jul 2019 #28

Biden intentionally held back during the debates Dream Girl Jul 2019 #128

Losing one debate is not going to knock him out. The persistent smear campaign from fellow emmaverybo Jul 2019 #120

I think Warren is going to be a greater beneficiary. SouthernProgressive Jul 2019 #6

Where? ucrdem Jul 2019 #8

Warren supports a grant program to pay for voluntary busing marylandblue Jul 2019 #18

Warren also supports busing. nt Kahuna7 Jul 2019 #33

I didn't see where that was included in one of her plans. Do you have a link? SouthernProgressive Jul 2019 #36

Yep... Kahuna7 Jul 2019 #40

Rock star. SouthernProgressive Jul 2019 #43

I think you're right about that!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2019 #74

God I hope so... Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #50

I'll bet anything that she tries to walk this back just as she is doing with MFA Skya Rhen Jul 2019 #58

Wouldn't surprise me... Kamala is obviously highly intelligent and has well-paid advisors. InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2019 #84

It's going to be hard to walk back either after Thursday. ucrdem Jul 2019 #86

Yeah right, even if Kamala is off base on the issue of busing... InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2019 #73

EVERYONE needs to be vetted on EVERYTHING The Mouth Jul 2019 #124

Agree 100% No problem with vetting candidates so long as the same standard is applied to all of them InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2019 #134

Well, as much as I agree The Mouth Jul 2019 #136

Without a doubt, which is why I don't see Biden making it to the end... InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2019 #140

And to yours. The Mouth Jul 2019 #142

That is not good.. not a good idea at all.. Peacetrain Jul 2019 #5

We have much bigger, more pressing issues to deal with onetexan Jul 2019 #31

Honest to God.. I am Peacetrain Jul 2019 #35

likewise. I think Kamala got herself into a pickle by opening a can of worms here, and she now has onetexan Jul 2019 #62

Pass the torch...... Bayard Jul 2019 #98

Only took couple of days Watchfoxheadexplodes Jul 2019 #9

Epic bungle. ucrdem Jul 2019 #19

Warren grew up in Oklahoma. Demit Jul 2019 #27

Right, I meant Harris, thanks. nt ucrdem Jul 2019 #34

Wow, the number one reason buyers cite in home purchases is location/access to the best schools. riverine Jul 2019 #11

Harris won't win with busing, but it could help Biden. marylandblue Jul 2019 #16

and you don't think that's a problem? jaceaf Jul 2019 #132

Let the "Backtrack Countdown" begin. oasis Jul 2019 #13

Exactly. crazytown Jul 2019 #96

Certainly wouldn't surprise me to hear Kamala backtrack... if she does InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2019 #135

I don't think she does owe own Joe an apology crazytown Jul 2019 #137

This is getting like "Back to the Future" Jersey Devil Jul 2019 #15

I kinda wish this whole issue had never come up. Turin_C3PO Jul 2019 #17

This. SouthernProgressive Jul 2019 #21

It's a winner for Biden. ucrdem Jul 2019 #23

If I were him, I wouldn't go after her for this. Turin_C3PO Jul 2019 #26

Oh he won't but he doesn't need to. ucrdem Jul 2019 #29

Agreed BeyondGeography Jul 2019 #32

All he has to do as talk about modern things that will help civil rights...and say this is an Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #53

Yes this might be a distraction tactic but boy did she step in it. ucrdem Jul 2019 #55

I agree completely...she is supposed to be the future...you know and she advocates a policy Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #104

She boxed herself in Dream Girl Jul 2019 #129

I agree. The media is doing a deep dive on the topic... Kahuna7 Jul 2019 #69

I agree peggysue2 Jul 2019 #85

This is true. Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #41

Yeah, supporting state's rights in a Dem debate is a sure-fire winner. Cuthbert Allgood Jul 2019 #51

He didn't do that first of all and no offense but Mayor Pete was a two term elected official Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #61

He totally said that he didn't support federal mandated action in busing. Cuthbert Allgood Jul 2019 #72

Thus winning the war while Harris won a Pyhrric victory. ucrdem Jul 2019 #81

That is not the same thing as opposing integration...There is a new CNN poll out that supports Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #106

White people (of which I am one) need to realize we are all racist. Cuthbert Allgood Jul 2019 #122

If you say so...Bullshit...being a racist does make you a bad person and I for one do Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #126

Or reparations The Mouth Jul 2019 #125

We can't afford to scare away voters with these issues. Trump's exit oasis Jul 2019 #133

There is no question it is a LOSE-LOSE issue. riverine Jul 2019 #25

Normally I don't give a shit what the GOP says Turin_C3PO Jul 2019 #47

They can't attach this one to Joe. Kamala already called him out publicly about being against Skya Rhen Jul 2019 #66

No he's not. Turin_C3PO Jul 2019 #76

That is a very good article. It lays out the central problem of how more should be done to integrate Demit Jul 2019 #24

It is a losing topic...and will lose us the general...do you think voters in the rustbelt give a Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #39

I think there are people in the rustbelt who would like schools to be less segregated. Demit Jul 2019 #57

In the rustbelt, we have school choice...and here in Ohio kids can attend schools not in their Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #64

You can drop it if you like. But it is a real issue. Demit Jul 2019 #88

It is not a real issue. I promise you no one supports it...and Kamala continues down this road at Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #107

You can't promise to speak for everyone. Demit Jul 2019 #111

Neither can you...I have an opinon as do you...agree or disagree-your choice. Have a nice day. Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #115

I don't try to. That's the difference between us. Demit Jul 2019 #116

Between MFA where private insurance goes away (very unpopular) and Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #37

Yep. ucrdem Jul 2019 #38

most of the candidates do not want to get rid of private insurance JI7 Jul 2019 #45

But the 3 below him all support ditching private insurance. nt ucrdem Jul 2019 #60

The top tier candidates all raised their hands about the private insurance question except Biden. Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #65

What you said plus, busing and slavery reparations...Oy! Kahuna7 Jul 2019 #71

It adds up to a big loss and we simply can't lose to Trump...he is dangerous. Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #108

I'm disgusted mainly with the MSM media folks and their on air commenters who Kahuna7 Jul 2019 #112

I am too...they helped elect Trump and beat up Hillary over the email...and encouraged divisions Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #113

And doing the same damn thing again...nt Kahuna7 Jul 2019 #114

The right fears Kamala, watoos Jul 2019 #42

From Gabbard to Harris right when a controversy erupts. SouthernProgressive Jul 2019 #46

Gaffes don't get any bigger than reviving busing. ucrdem Jul 2019 #49

They are panting for Kamala...they know they can beat her...between her supporting losing issues Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #68

That's what they want you to believe. This election won't Kahuna7 Jul 2019 #75

I used to trust her judgement, but no more. RelativelyJones Jul 2019 #44

she is correct. mopinko Jul 2019 #59

Serious flaw in perception. SouthernProgressive Jul 2019 #70

How did that work out? Was it voluntary or mandated?... Kahuna7 Jul 2019 #77

No clue how this is a response to my post. NT SouthernProgressive Jul 2019 #79

Sorry. I missed the quotation around your statement. nt. Kahuna7 Jul 2019 #80

I was just reading yours too.. and then I realized your quotes were in Peacetrain Jul 2019 #82

the court ordered that there be a system for integrating the schools. mopinko Jul 2019 #145

no, it's the truth. mopinko Jul 2019 #89

Great point about Michelle Obama StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #139

yup. i believe she took a bus. the school is downtown. mopinko Jul 2019 #143

Supporting this makes her unelectable - OhZone Jul 2019 #67

I agree...are you in Ohio? Many who live in blue areas or on the coasts misunderstand the Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #109

No, I'm on the Jersey Shore! OhZone Jul 2019 #117

This comment from article shows why equal education is so important, yet we have people screaming Hoyt Jul 2019 #87

you can't force different districts to bus kids between them, Harris seems out of touch on how it beachbum bob Jul 2019 #91

Maybe, but you can pay teachers better, ensure minority schools are truly equal, locate schools Hoyt Jul 2019 #93

Busing never went away. It has evolved over time. MineralMan Jul 2019 #94

Millions of children are bused in cities and towns across the country every day and no one cares StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #97

Involuntary busing always gets a lot of blowback, and from all sides. MineralMan Jul 2019 #101

The busing was "involuntary" because the desegregation was involuntary. StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #102

I grew up in the 1950s in a small California agricultural town. MineralMan Jul 2019 #110

A lot of times the poor planing... tonedevil Jul 2019 #119

Interesting.... Bayard Jul 2019 #99

Not really, and which are the "best" schools in St. Paul is sort of hard to determine. MineralMan Jul 2019 #100

On a related note, schools are more segregated then they were 40 years ago. CentralMass Jul 2019 #103

Well if you want to throw rocks, Bernie Sanders has an ambitious antisegregation plan as well. CentralMass Jul 2019 #105

Wow, what continued poor judgment. I voted for her because R B Garr Jul 2019 #118

Then she's not going to be President...and will not be the nominee ElementaryPenguin Jul 2019 #127

I was bused jaceaf Jul 2019 #130

Busing never "ended" dawg day Jul 2019 #131

True...I (a child of the 70's) wasn't "bussed" Chitown Kev Jul 2019 #141

Frankly... Chitown Kev Jul 2019 #138

Good for her.. "doubling down". Cha Jul 2019 #144