Democratic Primaries

ucrdem

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23. It's a winner for Biden.

Tue Jul 2, 2019, 09:20 AM

Jul 2019

I doubt if he was planning to bring it up but now that it's out there this could be all he needs.

p.s. busing is about the most toxic electoral poison I can think of short of military conscription a.k.a the draft.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Kamala Harris wants to bring busing back. [View all] SouthernProgressive Jul 2019 OP

That is a sure loser of an idea. madaboutharry Jul 2019 #1

Those of us who lived through it, even in its "best" incarnation know this is handing RW a gift. hlthe2b Jul 2019 #10

Between busing and slavery reparations..trump will win as... Kahuna7 Jul 2019 #30

Busing and reparations aside, Turin_C3PO Jul 2019 #52

The new CNN poll shows otherwise regarding MFA - the majority of the respondents opposed Skya Rhen Jul 2019 #54

Maybe it was universal healthcare then, Turin_C3PO Jul 2019 #56

Universal healthcare is definitely a winner peggysue2 Jul 2019 #90

I think Turin_C3PO Jul 2019 #92

Agreed! peggysue2 Jul 2019 #95

That is a winner The Mouth Jul 2019 #123

This is a great example of how the wording and specifics matter Amishman Jul 2019 #121

Make Sure We Have This Correct: LovingA2andMI Jul 2019 #14

I said IN THE PRIMARIES. madaboutharry Jul 2019 #20

Uh huh.... LovingA2andMI Jul 2019 #22

Um it's pretty clearly written in his post. tymorial Jul 2019 #83

You couldn't have been more clear....not that it prevents your words from being twisted by some. InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2019 #78

Your quote includes the word primaries so it was clear what the poster meant...I agree. I won't Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #48

Perhaps Kamala thinks the best way to achieve racial equality is through busing... InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2019 #63

Thank you Senator Harris ucrdem Jul 2019 #2

more likely people wo go to someone other than both Harris and Biden JI7 Jul 2019 #3

Biden was prepared. ucrdem Jul 2019 #4

so this was all the plan ? JI7 Jul 2019 #7

Call it an unintended consequence. ucrdem Jul 2019 #12

Agree onetexan Jul 2019 #28

Biden intentionally held back during the debates Dream Girl Jul 2019 #128

Losing one debate is not going to knock him out. The persistent smear campaign from fellow emmaverybo Jul 2019 #120

I think Warren is going to be a greater beneficiary. SouthernProgressive Jul 2019 #6

Where? ucrdem Jul 2019 #8

Warren supports a grant program to pay for voluntary busing marylandblue Jul 2019 #18

Warren also supports busing. nt Kahuna7 Jul 2019 #33

I didn't see where that was included in one of her plans. Do you have a link? SouthernProgressive Jul 2019 #36

Yep... Kahuna7 Jul 2019 #40

Rock star. SouthernProgressive Jul 2019 #43

I think you're right about that!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2019 #74

God I hope so... Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #50

I'll bet anything that she tries to walk this back just as she is doing with MFA Skya Rhen Jul 2019 #58

Wouldn't surprise me... Kamala is obviously highly intelligent and has well-paid advisors. InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2019 #84

It's going to be hard to walk back either after Thursday. ucrdem Jul 2019 #86

Yeah right, even if Kamala is off base on the issue of busing... InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2019 #73

EVERYONE needs to be vetted on EVERYTHING The Mouth Jul 2019 #124

Agree 100% No problem with vetting candidates so long as the same standard is applied to all of them InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2019 #134

Well, as much as I agree The Mouth Jul 2019 #136

Without a doubt, which is why I don't see Biden making it to the end... InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2019 #140

And to yours. The Mouth Jul 2019 #142

That is not good.. not a good idea at all.. Peacetrain Jul 2019 #5

We have much bigger, more pressing issues to deal with onetexan Jul 2019 #31

Honest to God.. I am Peacetrain Jul 2019 #35

likewise. I think Kamala got herself into a pickle by opening a can of worms here, and she now has onetexan Jul 2019 #62

Pass the torch...... Bayard Jul 2019 #98

Only took couple of days Watchfoxheadexplodes Jul 2019 #9

Epic bungle. ucrdem Jul 2019 #19

Warren grew up in Oklahoma. Demit Jul 2019 #27

Right, I meant Harris, thanks. nt ucrdem Jul 2019 #34

Wow, the number one reason buyers cite in home purchases is location/access to the best schools. riverine Jul 2019 #11

Harris won't win with busing, but it could help Biden. marylandblue Jul 2019 #16

and you don't think that's a problem? jaceaf Jul 2019 #132

Let the "Backtrack Countdown" begin. oasis Jul 2019 #13

Exactly. crazytown Jul 2019 #96

Certainly wouldn't surprise me to hear Kamala backtrack... if she does InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2019 #135

I don't think she does owe own Joe an apology crazytown Jul 2019 #137

This is getting like "Back to the Future" Jersey Devil Jul 2019 #15

I kinda wish this whole issue had never come up. Turin_C3PO Jul 2019 #17

This. SouthernProgressive Jul 2019 #21

It's a winner for Biden. ucrdem Jul 2019 #23

If I were him, I wouldn't go after her for this. Turin_C3PO Jul 2019 #26

Oh he won't but he doesn't need to. ucrdem Jul 2019 #29

Agreed BeyondGeography Jul 2019 #32

All he has to do as talk about modern things that will help civil rights...and say this is an Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #53

Yes this might be a distraction tactic but boy did she step in it. ucrdem Jul 2019 #55

I agree completely...she is supposed to be the future...you know and she advocates a policy Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #104

She boxed herself in Dream Girl Jul 2019 #129

I agree. The media is doing a deep dive on the topic... Kahuna7 Jul 2019 #69

I agree peggysue2 Jul 2019 #85

This is true. Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #41

Yeah, supporting state's rights in a Dem debate is a sure-fire winner. Cuthbert Allgood Jul 2019 #51

He didn't do that first of all and no offense but Mayor Pete was a two term elected official Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #61

He totally said that he didn't support federal mandated action in busing. Cuthbert Allgood Jul 2019 #72

Thus winning the war while Harris won a Pyhrric victory. ucrdem Jul 2019 #81

That is not the same thing as opposing integration...There is a new CNN poll out that supports Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #106

White people (of which I am one) need to realize we are all racist. Cuthbert Allgood Jul 2019 #122

If you say so...Bullshit...being a racist does make you a bad person and I for one do Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #126

Or reparations The Mouth Jul 2019 #125

We can't afford to scare away voters with these issues. Trump's exit oasis Jul 2019 #133

There is no question it is a LOSE-LOSE issue. riverine Jul 2019 #25

Normally I don't give a shit what the GOP says Turin_C3PO Jul 2019 #47

They can't attach this one to Joe. Kamala already called him out publicly about being against Skya Rhen Jul 2019 #66

No he's not. Turin_C3PO Jul 2019 #76

That is a very good article. It lays out the central problem of how more should be done to integrate Demit Jul 2019 #24

It is a losing topic...and will lose us the general...do you think voters in the rustbelt give a Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #39

I think there are people in the rustbelt who would like schools to be less segregated. Demit Jul 2019 #57

In the rustbelt, we have school choice...and here in Ohio kids can attend schools not in their Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #64

You can drop it if you like. But it is a real issue. Demit Jul 2019 #88

It is not a real issue. I promise you no one supports it...and Kamala continues down this road at Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #107

You can't promise to speak for everyone. Demit Jul 2019 #111

Neither can you...I have an opinon as do you...agree or disagree-your choice. Have a nice day. Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #115

I don't try to. That's the difference between us. Demit Jul 2019 #116

Between MFA where private insurance goes away (very unpopular) and Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #37

Yep. ucrdem Jul 2019 #38

most of the candidates do not want to get rid of private insurance JI7 Jul 2019 #45

But the 3 below him all support ditching private insurance. nt ucrdem Jul 2019 #60

The top tier candidates all raised their hands about the private insurance question except Biden. Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #65

What you said plus, busing and slavery reparations...Oy! Kahuna7 Jul 2019 #71

It adds up to a big loss and we simply can't lose to Trump...he is dangerous. Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #108

I'm disgusted mainly with the MSM media folks and their on air commenters who Kahuna7 Jul 2019 #112

I am too...they helped elect Trump and beat up Hillary over the email...and encouraged divisions Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #113

And doing the same damn thing again...nt Kahuna7 Jul 2019 #114

The right fears Kamala, watoos Jul 2019 #42

From Gabbard to Harris right when a controversy erupts. SouthernProgressive Jul 2019 #46

Gaffes don't get any bigger than reviving busing. ucrdem Jul 2019 #49

They are panting for Kamala...they know they can beat her...between her supporting losing issues Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #68

That's what they want you to believe. This election won't Kahuna7 Jul 2019 #75

I used to trust her judgement, but no more. RelativelyJones Jul 2019 #44

she is correct. mopinko Jul 2019 #59

Serious flaw in perception. SouthernProgressive Jul 2019 #70

How did that work out? Was it voluntary or mandated?... Kahuna7 Jul 2019 #77

No clue how this is a response to my post. NT SouthernProgressive Jul 2019 #79

Sorry. I missed the quotation around your statement. nt. Kahuna7 Jul 2019 #80

I was just reading yours too.. and then I realized your quotes were in Peacetrain Jul 2019 #82

the court ordered that there be a system for integrating the schools. mopinko Jul 2019 #145

no, it's the truth. mopinko Jul 2019 #89

Great point about Michelle Obama StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #139

yup. i believe she took a bus. the school is downtown. mopinko Jul 2019 #143

Supporting this makes her unelectable - OhZone Jul 2019 #67

I agree...are you in Ohio? Many who live in blue areas or on the coasts misunderstand the Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #109

No, I'm on the Jersey Shore! OhZone Jul 2019 #117

This comment from article shows why equal education is so important, yet we have people screaming Hoyt Jul 2019 #87

you can't force different districts to bus kids between them, Harris seems out of touch on how it beachbum bob Jul 2019 #91

Maybe, but you can pay teachers better, ensure minority schools are truly equal, locate schools Hoyt Jul 2019 #93

Busing never went away. It has evolved over time. MineralMan Jul 2019 #94

Millions of children are bused in cities and towns across the country every day and no one cares StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #97

Involuntary busing always gets a lot of blowback, and from all sides. MineralMan Jul 2019 #101

The busing was "involuntary" because the desegregation was involuntary. StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #102

I grew up in the 1950s in a small California agricultural town. MineralMan Jul 2019 #110

A lot of times the poor planing... tonedevil Jul 2019 #119

Interesting.... Bayard Jul 2019 #99

Not really, and which are the "best" schools in St. Paul is sort of hard to determine. MineralMan Jul 2019 #100

On a related note, schools are more segregated then they were 40 years ago. CentralMass Jul 2019 #103

Well if you want to throw rocks, Bernie Sanders has an ambitious antisegregation plan as well. CentralMass Jul 2019 #105

Wow, what continued poor judgment. I voted for her because R B Garr Jul 2019 #118

Then she's not going to be President...and will not be the nominee ElementaryPenguin Jul 2019 #127

I was bused jaceaf Jul 2019 #130

Busing never "ended" dawg day Jul 2019 #131

True...I (a child of the 70's) wasn't "bussed" Chitown Kev Jul 2019 #141

Frankly... Chitown Kev Jul 2019 #138

Good for her.. "doubling down". Cha Jul 2019 #144