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41. Polls at this point are almost meaningless

Tue Jul 2, 2019, 11:12 AM

Jul 2019

Biden hasn't even debated vs Trump and we have NO idea how that would go. I also worry that the Trump campaign has had a ton of time to prepare their smear campaign vs him, similar to what happened vs Hillary.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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CNN just reported in their new poll that Biden still has the best chance to beat Trump...not even [View all] Demsrule86 Jul 2019 OP

This extrapolation can not be made. SouthernProgressive Jul 2019 #1

It is true...the rightwing is salivating for either Warren or Harris who have taken positions that Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #8

This is an opinion based in personal understanding. SouthernProgressive Jul 2019 #29

An opinion based on polls ...the states we need...an informed opinion if you will. Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #56

"an informed opinion if you will." SouthernProgressive Jul 2019 #57

Its an opinion I think a lot of people share. ooky Jul 2019 #82

Telling 130 million people the NRA is okay is equally as dangerous. gldstwmn Jul 2019 #105

What leads you to allege "equally"? LanternWaste Jul 2019 #111

My brother in law belongs to the NRA...and votes Democratic every election...separating members Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #119

Bless his and your hearts... gldstwmn Jul 2019 #123

So funny...well bless you heart too honey...got to add the honey. Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #128

The NRA is a money laundering front for Russia and God knows who else. gldstwmn Jul 2019 #131

No one is arguing that!! Most members are skeet shooters, hunters and competition shooters Thekaspervote Jul 2019 #135

Great point...my brother in law is a doll ...and a loyal Democrat and a hunter who is a member of Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #143

Purity? Like those rings the Jonas Brothers used to wear? gldstwmn Jul 2019 #150

Had to add from the last century, didn't you? We can have strong gun control without emmaverybo Jul 2019 #167

Does Biden accept the findings of the Mueller Report? gldstwmn Jul 2019 #168

Because we accept that higher-ups in the Catholic Church covered up for pedophile priests, emmaverybo Jul 2019 #170

Good analogy. Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #179

That is kind of a silly comment as he has called for impeachment. Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #178

Busing espoused by your candidate is from the last century...and I dislike the organization but that Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #175

If you give them your time and money you are complicit and support their agenda. gldstwmn Jul 2019 #147

Exactly...purity at its best or worst... Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #176

+1! Cha Jul 2019 #187

I don't disagree...have told my brother in law that...but the people that are members like my Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #140

You're alienating more. It's a net loss. gldstwmn Jul 2019 #155

So we should only go for certain people...you know without the Senate we get no judges and Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #159

We should embrace candidates that most closely align with our 21st century values. gldstwmn Jul 2019 #163

The country is center left and we will lose every election as we did in the 80's . Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #177

He did NOT say nra is okay. He said it's members.. there is a difference even if you don't think so Thekaspervote Jul 2019 #134

Exactly right...he is trying to expand our numbers in terms of voters...Kicking everyone out of the Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #145

We can look at the states we need and see who has won there recently...and consider what it Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #87

Gene Robinson had a good column taking issue with that, today: spooky3 Jul 2019 #50

I don't agree at all.... I see little support for MFA or other issues that many of our candidates Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #60

Seriously!! When has CNN been reliable when it comes to polling?! InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2019 #30

Today, Biden would be our best bet to take on Trump. SouthernProgressive Jul 2019 #33

I have no idea which polls are valid or better than other polls...just posted what was out there. Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #65

Sure did, thanks. That's really all you can do is post information... the only poll that matters InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2019 #144

So true. Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #180

Thank you. Biden's people seem to think if they repeat over and over gldstwmn Jul 2019 #103

Biden's supporters have made the case more than once. I have yet to see Harris supporter make Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #120

It helps to read their posts. gldstwmn Jul 2019 #122

Granted my life has been hectic...but I certainly didn't miss all of them if they were as abundent Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #129

Obama won the Rust Belt. gldstwmn Jul 2019 #130

Obama's authenticity won them over. nt oasis Jul 2019 #132

I would agree with that...and Obama was a rock star...few have his political talent. Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #138

Biden's personal history played large part in molding his oasis Jul 2019 #151

Ooooh!!! Skya Rhen Jul 2019 #173

Harris, Warren, Buttigieg, Sanders, Beto all come across as pretty authentic to me. gldstwmn Jul 2019 #133

I think Warren's stunt with the busing was not authentic. Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #139

"TeeShirtgate" nt oasis Jul 2019 #157

That is too funny and true! Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #158

Biden helped with the rust belt...I believe that is part of why he was chosen.Hillary did better in Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #137

If the national popular vote interstate compact gldstwmn Jul 2019 #146

You think it will be in place in 20? So your reply as to how Harris and others win the rust belt Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #148

I thought the DU line was that the judiciary was going to be the thing to save gldstwmn Jul 2019 #152

Yeah, It is highly doubtful the compact will be in place in 20...and we have a 5-4 court at the Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #162

Biden couldn't even get a hearing for Merrick Garland. gldstwmn Jul 2019 #164

Everything is Biden's fault I guess...how dare he not get a hearing for Merrick Garland! Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #165

Garland will get redress under President Biden. Skya Rhen Jul 2019 #174

There will be no redress under any nominee...and if we don't take the Senate, it will happen again. Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #182

True... Skya Rhen Jul 2019 #183

Yes...the idea that anyone could have gotten Garland a haearing is ridiculous...McConnell made Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #189

The only president we will have that is not 'president' Trump is President Biden...because he can Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #185

Agree!! Thekaspervote Jul 2019 #136

Yes, the OP completely misinterprets the poll. thesquanderer Jul 2019 #160

This is what the person polled believes I M Charlie Jul 2019 #181

Harris may have won the perception battle on Thursday ucrdem Jul 2019 #2

I think so...she wanted an apology so she could continue her assault...let her run on busing... Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #7

Kamala wanting an apology for a manufactured issue onetexan Jul 2019 #35

Exactly. The chatter after the debate was inane. ucrdem Jul 2019 #45

I am so proud of Joe for refusing to apologize for things that he is falsely accused of doing. Skya Rhen Jul 2019 #52

He's a pro, no doubt about it. ucrdem Jul 2019 #59

If someone had told me one of our serious candidates would bring up busing, I would have laughed Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #61

Yeah Busing? Are you kidding Kamala? Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #66

Looks like you may be right... I'm a little surprised by the push back, but, such is politics. InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2019 #32

hey thanks ucrdem Jul 2019 #48

Indeed...you never know. Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #67

So true!! At first, I thought ol' Joe was toast after that exchange over busing... now I'm thinkin' InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2019 #86

And to yours whom I believe has a better chance to win the rust belt than Harris. Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #149

They sure are: gldstwmn Jul 2019 #114

A week ago it was Warren, a month ago it was Pete. ucrdem Jul 2019 #116

+1000 Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #117

I was going to say "get back to me on Super Tuesday" ucrdem Jul 2019 #118

Yeah...I love that snark...I know what you mean...I have been just roasted for stating that I think Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #121

Canvassers on the ground tell a far different story Indygram Jul 2019 #3

I don't agree with that. Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #6

Beto canvassers talk to EVERYONE and in Texas, Beto is beating Trump w/moderate Republicans Indygram Jul 2019 #42

I like Beto and had high hopes for him, but he is not winning the polls...and he lost in Texas in 18 Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #69

Don't agree w/ the no support for Biden statement. I'm in Tx, and i know plenty of people who do onetexan Jul 2019 #78

I agree with that. Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #96

Gracias for speaking up for Biden in Texas, Cha Jul 2019 #110

That's a great photo. We can take Texas this time I think. gldstwmn Jul 2019 #107

It's too early to predict SunsetDreams2 Jul 2019 #4

I am hoping Biden emerges on super Tuesday...we don't need a drawn out battle...we need to Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #11

I support Pete, for the time being. Honeycombe8 Jul 2019 #5

I like Pete...I hope he works on repairing his problems with the AA community. He is very Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #15

They're not going to go for him. Honeycombe8 Jul 2019 #19

Yeah, you are right...I have seen some truly ugly things on twitter...you Know my daughter is Gay... Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #23

I didn't know it was that bad. Honeycombe8 Jul 2019 #34

I don't get it either...Hud has put an anti-gay policy in place...right wing thugs Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #43

I feel same way marlakay Jul 2019 #93

You think Warren could beat Trump? Honeycombe8 Jul 2019 #171

I have watched her and liked her a long time marlakay Jul 2019 #186

His time will come, he is still young katmondoo Jul 2019 #161

True. If he can make Governor, it's a hop, skip & a jump to the Presidency. nt Honeycombe8 Jul 2019 #172

I know. 43%, 30% over the next highest, Bernie at 13%...So... Kahuna7 Jul 2019 #9

This is why I think Harris's numbers are temporary. Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #12

A sugar high. nt Kahuna7 Jul 2019 #14

That is a great way to put it...hehe Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #16

Hello... Kahuna7 Jul 2019 #18

good let's go Joe ! stonecutter357 Jul 2019 #10

Yep...he is the best candidate to evict Trump the madman wannabe dictator. Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #13

I think that's the poll where 43% of the people thought Biden had the best chance, marylandblue Jul 2019 #17

That is not true...and if you think this than only 12% of people will vote for Harris and or Warren. Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #21

Well I don't know if it's a temporary or permanent bump and neither do you. marylandblue Jul 2019 #40

Why do some always say this...no one said anyone knows anything for sure...we deal in opinions here Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #44

Because you often state your opinions as absolute facts marylandblue Jul 2019 #58

I state my opinon same as you ...you take them that way...anything I post unless it is a direct Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #71

You ask why some people point out you don't know something. marylandblue Jul 2019 #80

Ah, Now that is just rude...I don't agree with you so I have a lack of 'knowledge'. whatever. Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #83

Your choice as to responding, but I thought it was clear that marylandblue Jul 2019 #91

Fair enough...I always respond but I have missed a few posts that last week or two... Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #97

Sorry you've been going through such a difficult time. I hope everyone gets better. marylandblue Jul 2019 #142

Oh God, it looks like I was asking for sympathy...I wasn't . We all have our crosses to bear...I Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #154

Thx for pointing out the numbers.. it's overlooked! Thekaspervote Jul 2019 #141

Thanks for your great points! Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #156

Nobody likes Biden? emmaverybo Jul 2019 #89

Well it's a hypothetical, and perhaps stated in too extreme terms, so marylandblue Jul 2019 #109

Christ, sounds like we ought to dredge up some old Dixiecrat who is not quite as abrasive as trump. Hoyt Jul 2019 #20

No, I think they are mostly dead...but Biden can win...I know people want to believe, we are so Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #22

Sorry, I'm not ready to give up and go back. I'll re-evaluate when my primary approaches in March. Hoyt Jul 2019 #28

You pick your battles...this is a losing issue and this is one article also...how will minority kids Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #46

The essence of the Democratic Party is equality. eom Hoyt Jul 2019 #49

That is your opinion...and maybe it is even true...but running on equality will not win elections... Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #72

He would humilliate Trump. IluvPitties Jul 2019 #24

Yes he would humiliate Trump. Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #47

Right now, the Democratic Party Iliyah Jul 2019 #25

Really, Than why do we not have a good shot at the Senate? Why did moderates win the House back? Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #51

This is not the 1980s and Trump is not Reagan. marylandblue Jul 2019 #70

He is like Reagan...he took Obama's former supporters (Reagan Democrats), He ran on completely Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #73

CNN poll almost exactly 4 years ago: Clinton 59%, Trump 34%. motorcity Jul 2019 #26

The election was stolen. I'm glad Pres Carter confirmed that. Iliyah Jul 2019 #31

Well then I guess the ones showing Harris winning the debate should be discarded as well. Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #54

I will vote for the Democratic nominee, enthusiastically, whoever it is! n/t ginnyinWI Jul 2019 #27

Me too. Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #98

In some out of the box thinking: the news the last few days seems to indicate that Trump's in2herbs Jul 2019 #36

I don't think that's a big worry treestar Jul 2019 #39

That same poll showed that only Biden and Buttigieg had net favorable ratings when all voters highplainsdem Jul 2019 #37

If Harris is the nominee the right will use this busing issue against her treestar Jul 2019 #38

Polls at this point are almost meaningless Calculating Jul 2019 #41

CNN wants Biden to be the nominee because smooth64 Jul 2019 #53

No they don't...they have been savaging him along with MSNBC. Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #55

Headline is inaccurate and misleading Bradshaw3 Jul 2019 #62

I consider that nitpicking. Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #74

Headline is still misleading Bradshaw3 Jul 2019 #90

Today is July 2, 2019 True Dough Jul 2019 #63

I would prefer a rockstar like Pres. Obama...I still only see Biden winning the states we need. Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #75

That's nice True Dough Jul 2019 #79

I hope we win in 20...that is my one and only goal. Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #84

Is there a single DUer (other than a possible Russian bot or three) True Dough Jul 2019 #92

I doubt it...we just have different idea on how we can do this. Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #99

I understand that some people stop considering anything past "BEAT TRUMP" this time around... TCJ70 Jul 2019 #64

Most of our candidates do not have a good chance to beat Trump...that is the problem...oh sure they Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #76

I'm starting to wonder about a Biden/Warren ticket Bayard Jul 2019 #68

I like Warren better than Harris...but that is two east coast candidates. Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #77

I think Biden can bring in the Midwest Bayard Jul 2019 #95

That is a good point...he helped Obama win the Mid West in 08 and 12...saw him Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #100

In a year, everything might have changed. dawg day Jul 2019 #81

No one said it was 'over'. Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #85

You do realize Andy823 Jul 2019 #88

I base my belief on who can win the general on who can win in three states MI, WI and PA...Trump Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #102

Joe Biden is the most electable candidate that the Democratic Party has available Gothmog Jul 2019 #94

I agree. Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #106

270 to win has our top 8 last I checked beating Orange. gldstwmn Jul 2019 #101

In what polls? We need to look at state polls...because we don't elect a president directly...who Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #104

There's more debates coming, and Biden still has time to snatch defeat from victory's jaws. nt zackymilly Jul 2019 #108

I expect he will...the candidates agreed not to attack as I remember...but obviously that is no long Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #124

Biden gives us the best chance of winning the all important rust belt and possibly Florida world wide wally Jul 2019 #112

If we win Florida Trump is toast...and Biden is the only one tied or up in Florida as I recall. Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #125

Quinnipiac has Biden at 22% and Harris at 20% in a poll released today. gldstwmn Jul 2019 #113

But that number doesn't translate to rising poll numbers or strong support. Kaleva Jul 2019 #115

We shall see. Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #126

More polls causing more division among Democrats. My thread of the same title should be Eliot Rosewater Jul 2019 #127

Today Renew Deal Jul 2019 #153

Huh. I clicked your link and here's what it actually says: gldstwmn Jul 2019 #166

I used quotations as well ...and Biden still leads in AA vote...wait until AG and DA history comes Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #188

or they are massaging the sheeple like in 2016. they wanted hillary vs trump, but it looked like she pansypoo53219 Jul 2019 #169

We'll see if her debate performance Cha Jul 2019 #184

Thanks, Dems! Cha Jul 2019 #190

Brutally honest: Kamala is an excellent prosecutor. Politician? Not so much ecstatic Jul 2019 #191