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Demsrule86

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76. Most of our candidates do not have a good chance to beat Trump...that is the problem...oh sure they

Tue Jul 2, 2019, 12:00 PM

Jul 2019

could rack up the popular vote maybe, but we need three states to win the electoral college WI, MI and PA...and the positions taken in the primary by many of our candidates will be a huge issue for them in a general in the states we need to win. Biden remains the best person to beat Trump and it won't be easy...those of you who think otherwise are wrong. Trump is going to be tough to beat. When we lost the blue wall, we lost our path to the presidency.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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CNN just reported in their new poll that Biden still has the best chance to beat Trump...not even [View all] Demsrule86 Jul 2019 OP

This extrapolation can not be made. SouthernProgressive Jul 2019 #1

It is true...the rightwing is salivating for either Warren or Harris who have taken positions that Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #8

This is an opinion based in personal understanding. SouthernProgressive Jul 2019 #29

An opinion based on polls ...the states we need...an informed opinion if you will. Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #56

"an informed opinion if you will." SouthernProgressive Jul 2019 #57

Its an opinion I think a lot of people share. ooky Jul 2019 #82

Telling 130 million people the NRA is okay is equally as dangerous. gldstwmn Jul 2019 #105

What leads you to allege "equally"? LanternWaste Jul 2019 #111

My brother in law belongs to the NRA...and votes Democratic every election...separating members Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #119

Bless his and your hearts... gldstwmn Jul 2019 #123

So funny...well bless you heart too honey...got to add the honey. Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #128

The NRA is a money laundering front for Russia and God knows who else. gldstwmn Jul 2019 #131

No one is arguing that!! Most members are skeet shooters, hunters and competition shooters Thekaspervote Jul 2019 #135

Great point...my brother in law is a doll ...and a loyal Democrat and a hunter who is a member of Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #143

Purity? Like those rings the Jonas Brothers used to wear? gldstwmn Jul 2019 #150

Had to add from the last century, didn't you? We can have strong gun control without emmaverybo Jul 2019 #167

Does Biden accept the findings of the Mueller Report? gldstwmn Jul 2019 #168

Because we accept that higher-ups in the Catholic Church covered up for pedophile priests, emmaverybo Jul 2019 #170

Good analogy. Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #179

That is kind of a silly comment as he has called for impeachment. Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #178

Busing espoused by your candidate is from the last century...and I dislike the organization but that Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #175

If you give them your time and money you are complicit and support their agenda. gldstwmn Jul 2019 #147

Exactly...purity at its best or worst... Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #176

+1! Cha Jul 2019 #187

I don't disagree...have told my brother in law that...but the people that are members like my Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #140

You're alienating more. It's a net loss. gldstwmn Jul 2019 #155

So we should only go for certain people...you know without the Senate we get no judges and Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #159

We should embrace candidates that most closely align with our 21st century values. gldstwmn Jul 2019 #163

The country is center left and we will lose every election as we did in the 80's . Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #177

He did NOT say nra is okay. He said it's members.. there is a difference even if you don't think so Thekaspervote Jul 2019 #134

Exactly right...he is trying to expand our numbers in terms of voters...Kicking everyone out of the Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #145

We can look at the states we need and see who has won there recently...and consider what it Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #87

Gene Robinson had a good column taking issue with that, today: spooky3 Jul 2019 #50

I don't agree at all.... I see little support for MFA or other issues that many of our candidates Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #60

Seriously!! When has CNN been reliable when it comes to polling?! InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2019 #30

Today, Biden would be our best bet to take on Trump. SouthernProgressive Jul 2019 #33

I have no idea which polls are valid or better than other polls...just posted what was out there. Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #65

Sure did, thanks. That's really all you can do is post information... the only poll that matters InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2019 #144

So true. Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #180

Thank you. Biden's people seem to think if they repeat over and over gldstwmn Jul 2019 #103

Biden's supporters have made the case more than once. I have yet to see Harris supporter make Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #120

It helps to read their posts. gldstwmn Jul 2019 #122

Granted my life has been hectic...but I certainly didn't miss all of them if they were as abundent Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #129

Obama won the Rust Belt. gldstwmn Jul 2019 #130

Obama's authenticity won them over. nt oasis Jul 2019 #132

I would agree with that...and Obama was a rock star...few have his political talent. Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #138

Biden's personal history played large part in molding his oasis Jul 2019 #151

Ooooh!!! Skya Rhen Jul 2019 #173

Harris, Warren, Buttigieg, Sanders, Beto all come across as pretty authentic to me. gldstwmn Jul 2019 #133

I think Warren's stunt with the busing was not authentic. Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #139

"TeeShirtgate" nt oasis Jul 2019 #157

That is too funny and true! Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #158

Biden helped with the rust belt...I believe that is part of why he was chosen.Hillary did better in Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #137

If the national popular vote interstate compact gldstwmn Jul 2019 #146

You think it will be in place in 20? So your reply as to how Harris and others win the rust belt Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #148

I thought the DU line was that the judiciary was going to be the thing to save gldstwmn Jul 2019 #152

Yeah, It is highly doubtful the compact will be in place in 20...and we have a 5-4 court at the Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #162

Biden couldn't even get a hearing for Merrick Garland. gldstwmn Jul 2019 #164

Everything is Biden's fault I guess...how dare he not get a hearing for Merrick Garland! Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #165

Garland will get redress under President Biden. Skya Rhen Jul 2019 #174

There will be no redress under any nominee...and if we don't take the Senate, it will happen again. Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #182

True... Skya Rhen Jul 2019 #183

Yes...the idea that anyone could have gotten Garland a haearing is ridiculous...McConnell made Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #189

The only president we will have that is not 'president' Trump is President Biden...because he can Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #185

Agree!! Thekaspervote Jul 2019 #136

Yes, the OP completely misinterprets the poll. thesquanderer Jul 2019 #160

This is what the person polled believes I M Charlie Jul 2019 #181

Harris may have won the perception battle on Thursday ucrdem Jul 2019 #2

I think so...she wanted an apology so she could continue her assault...let her run on busing... Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #7

Kamala wanting an apology for a manufactured issue onetexan Jul 2019 #35

Exactly. The chatter after the debate was inane. ucrdem Jul 2019 #45

I am so proud of Joe for refusing to apologize for things that he is falsely accused of doing. Skya Rhen Jul 2019 #52

He's a pro, no doubt about it. ucrdem Jul 2019 #59

If someone had told me one of our serious candidates would bring up busing, I would have laughed Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #61

Yeah Busing? Are you kidding Kamala? Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #66

Looks like you may be right... I'm a little surprised by the push back, but, such is politics. InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2019 #32

hey thanks ucrdem Jul 2019 #48

Indeed...you never know. Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #67

So true!! At first, I thought ol' Joe was toast after that exchange over busing... now I'm thinkin' InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2019 #86

And to yours whom I believe has a better chance to win the rust belt than Harris. Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #149

They sure are: gldstwmn Jul 2019 #114

A week ago it was Warren, a month ago it was Pete. ucrdem Jul 2019 #116

+1000 Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #117

I was going to say "get back to me on Super Tuesday" ucrdem Jul 2019 #118

Yeah...I love that snark...I know what you mean...I have been just roasted for stating that I think Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #121

Canvassers on the ground tell a far different story Indygram Jul 2019 #3

I don't agree with that. Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #6

Beto canvassers talk to EVERYONE and in Texas, Beto is beating Trump w/moderate Republicans Indygram Jul 2019 #42

I like Beto and had high hopes for him, but he is not winning the polls...and he lost in Texas in 18 Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #69

Don't agree w/ the no support for Biden statement. I'm in Tx, and i know plenty of people who do onetexan Jul 2019 #78

I agree with that. Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #96

Gracias for speaking up for Biden in Texas, Cha Jul 2019 #110

That's a great photo. We can take Texas this time I think. gldstwmn Jul 2019 #107

It's too early to predict SunsetDreams2 Jul 2019 #4

I am hoping Biden emerges on super Tuesday...we don't need a drawn out battle...we need to Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #11

I support Pete, for the time being. Honeycombe8 Jul 2019 #5

I like Pete...I hope he works on repairing his problems with the AA community. He is very Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #15

They're not going to go for him. Honeycombe8 Jul 2019 #19

Yeah, you are right...I have seen some truly ugly things on twitter...you Know my daughter is Gay... Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #23

I didn't know it was that bad. Honeycombe8 Jul 2019 #34

I don't get it either...Hud has put an anti-gay policy in place...right wing thugs Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #43

I feel same way marlakay Jul 2019 #93

You think Warren could beat Trump? Honeycombe8 Jul 2019 #171

I have watched her and liked her a long time marlakay Jul 2019 #186

His time will come, he is still young katmondoo Jul 2019 #161

True. If he can make Governor, it's a hop, skip & a jump to the Presidency. nt Honeycombe8 Jul 2019 #172

I know. 43%, 30% over the next highest, Bernie at 13%...So... Kahuna7 Jul 2019 #9

This is why I think Harris's numbers are temporary. Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #12

A sugar high. nt Kahuna7 Jul 2019 #14

That is a great way to put it...hehe Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #16

Hello... Kahuna7 Jul 2019 #18

good let's go Joe ! stonecutter357 Jul 2019 #10

Yep...he is the best candidate to evict Trump the madman wannabe dictator. Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #13

I think that's the poll where 43% of the people thought Biden had the best chance, marylandblue Jul 2019 #17

That is not true...and if you think this than only 12% of people will vote for Harris and or Warren. Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #21

Well I don't know if it's a temporary or permanent bump and neither do you. marylandblue Jul 2019 #40

Why do some always say this...no one said anyone knows anything for sure...we deal in opinions here Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #44

Because you often state your opinions as absolute facts marylandblue Jul 2019 #58

I state my opinon same as you ...you take them that way...anything I post unless it is a direct Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #71

You ask why some people point out you don't know something. marylandblue Jul 2019 #80

Ah, Now that is just rude...I don't agree with you so I have a lack of 'knowledge'. whatever. Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #83

Your choice as to responding, but I thought it was clear that marylandblue Jul 2019 #91

Fair enough...I always respond but I have missed a few posts that last week or two... Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #97

Sorry you've been going through such a difficult time. I hope everyone gets better. marylandblue Jul 2019 #142

Oh God, it looks like I was asking for sympathy...I wasn't . We all have our crosses to bear...I Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #154

Thx for pointing out the numbers.. it's overlooked! Thekaspervote Jul 2019 #141

Thanks for your great points! Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #156

Nobody likes Biden? emmaverybo Jul 2019 #89

Well it's a hypothetical, and perhaps stated in too extreme terms, so marylandblue Jul 2019 #109

Christ, sounds like we ought to dredge up some old Dixiecrat who is not quite as abrasive as trump. Hoyt Jul 2019 #20

No, I think they are mostly dead...but Biden can win...I know people want to believe, we are so Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #22

Sorry, I'm not ready to give up and go back. I'll re-evaluate when my primary approaches in March. Hoyt Jul 2019 #28

You pick your battles...this is a losing issue and this is one article also...how will minority kids Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #46

The essence of the Democratic Party is equality. eom Hoyt Jul 2019 #49

That is your opinion...and maybe it is even true...but running on equality will not win elections... Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #72

He would humilliate Trump. IluvPitties Jul 2019 #24

Yes he would humiliate Trump. Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #47

Right now, the Democratic Party Iliyah Jul 2019 #25

Really, Than why do we not have a good shot at the Senate? Why did moderates win the House back? Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #51

This is not the 1980s and Trump is not Reagan. marylandblue Jul 2019 #70

He is like Reagan...he took Obama's former supporters (Reagan Democrats), He ran on completely Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #73

CNN poll almost exactly 4 years ago: Clinton 59%, Trump 34%. motorcity Jul 2019 #26

The election was stolen. I'm glad Pres Carter confirmed that. Iliyah Jul 2019 #31

Well then I guess the ones showing Harris winning the debate should be discarded as well. Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #54

I will vote for the Democratic nominee, enthusiastically, whoever it is! n/t ginnyinWI Jul 2019 #27

Me too. Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #98

In some out of the box thinking: the news the last few days seems to indicate that Trump's in2herbs Jul 2019 #36

I don't think that's a big worry treestar Jul 2019 #39

That same poll showed that only Biden and Buttigieg had net favorable ratings when all voters highplainsdem Jul 2019 #37

If Harris is the nominee the right will use this busing issue against her treestar Jul 2019 #38

Polls at this point are almost meaningless Calculating Jul 2019 #41

CNN wants Biden to be the nominee because smooth64 Jul 2019 #53

No they don't...they have been savaging him along with MSNBC. Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #55

Headline is inaccurate and misleading Bradshaw3 Jul 2019 #62

I consider that nitpicking. Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #74

Headline is still misleading Bradshaw3 Jul 2019 #90

Today is July 2, 2019 True Dough Jul 2019 #63

I would prefer a rockstar like Pres. Obama...I still only see Biden winning the states we need. Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #75

That's nice True Dough Jul 2019 #79

I hope we win in 20...that is my one and only goal. Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #84

Is there a single DUer (other than a possible Russian bot or three) True Dough Jul 2019 #92

I doubt it...we just have different idea on how we can do this. Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #99

I understand that some people stop considering anything past "BEAT TRUMP" this time around... TCJ70 Jul 2019 #64

Most of our candidates do not have a good chance to beat Trump...that is the problem...oh sure they Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #76

I'm starting to wonder about a Biden/Warren ticket Bayard Jul 2019 #68

I like Warren better than Harris...but that is two east coast candidates. Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #77

I think Biden can bring in the Midwest Bayard Jul 2019 #95

That is a good point...he helped Obama win the Mid West in 08 and 12...saw him Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #100

In a year, everything might have changed. dawg day Jul 2019 #81

No one said it was 'over'. Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #85

You do realize Andy823 Jul 2019 #88

I base my belief on who can win the general on who can win in three states MI, WI and PA...Trump Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #102

Joe Biden is the most electable candidate that the Democratic Party has available Gothmog Jul 2019 #94

I agree. Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #106

270 to win has our top 8 last I checked beating Orange. gldstwmn Jul 2019 #101

In what polls? We need to look at state polls...because we don't elect a president directly...who Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #104

There's more debates coming, and Biden still has time to snatch defeat from victory's jaws. nt zackymilly Jul 2019 #108

I expect he will...the candidates agreed not to attack as I remember...but obviously that is no long Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #124

Biden gives us the best chance of winning the all important rust belt and possibly Florida world wide wally Jul 2019 #112

If we win Florida Trump is toast...and Biden is the only one tied or up in Florida as I recall. Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #125

Quinnipiac has Biden at 22% and Harris at 20% in a poll released today. gldstwmn Jul 2019 #113

But that number doesn't translate to rising poll numbers or strong support. Kaleva Jul 2019 #115

We shall see. Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #126

More polls causing more division among Democrats. My thread of the same title should be Eliot Rosewater Jul 2019 #127

Today Renew Deal Jul 2019 #153

Huh. I clicked your link and here's what it actually says: gldstwmn Jul 2019 #166

I used quotations as well ...and Biden still leads in AA vote...wait until AG and DA history comes Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #188

or they are massaging the sheeple like in 2016. they wanted hillary vs trump, but it looked like she pansypoo53219 Jul 2019 #169

We'll see if her debate performance Cha Jul 2019 #184

Thanks, Dems! Cha Jul 2019 #190

Brutally honest: Kamala is an excellent prosecutor. Politician? Not so much ecstatic Jul 2019 #191