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Response to LonePirate (Reply #21)

Wed Jul 3, 2019, 07:18 PM

22. So the 2016 election is your sole criterion for "swing state"?

 

The particulars of that election -- Russian interference, Comey letter, etc. -- mean nothing in your estimation? That's what we should go with?

Just take Iowa, Barack Obama won by 9 points in 2008 and by nearly 6 points in 2012 (enough to make it "non-swing state" by your criterion). But you're willing to give it up just because of Clinton's performance?

That doesn't make sense.

ETA: In 2012, Obama won PA, MI, and WI by more than 5 points each. (His margin in MI was nearly 10 points). Should we have assumed in 2012 that these were no longer swing states and could be assumed safely Democratic? Some people did and, as I recall, that didn't work out too well. One election doesn't mean anything.
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