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ucrdem

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128. But he probably won't, because he doesn't want Biden to bring up his immigration vote.

Tue Mar 12, 2019, 08:03 AM

Mar 2019

And worse, at a few critical moments in 2006, he broke with Democrats and progressives and stood with the hardline anti-immigrant wing of the Republican Party.

The House passed a bill that would have allowed undocumented immigrants to be detained indefinitely and curtailed avenues to fight deportation in court. The ACLU called the bill “inhumane” and the National Council of La Raza called it a “very ugly, very harmful enforcement-only approach… to criminalize the undocumented population.” And it was a bill to which Representative Bernie Sanders said “aye.”

-- Luis Gutiérrez: Sanders Voted With Republicans

https://www.univision.com/noticias/opinion/sanders-voted-with-republicans

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Bernie will and should bring up Biden's Iraq War vote [View all] Carrito Mar 2019 OP

Ah shit. This crap again. Squinch Mar 2019 #1

+100 Sneederbunk Mar 2019 #28

No kidding. Somebody's been awfully busy. namahage Mar 2019 #73

How is a candidate's voting record "crap"? People bring up Bernie's record all the time... InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #101

And always the same idiotic crap from the same 3 people. Squinch Mar 2019 #122

Yeah, no kidding. NT Adrahil Mar 2019 #126

Post removed Post removed Mar 2019 #2

Seriously? Carrito Mar 2019 #7

All you hear about is Bernie voting record!! Oh yeah, and he's not a Democrat... which he is now. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #11

But he filed to run in 2024 as an Independent. MrsCoffee Mar 2019 #121

So what?! That's just the state of Vermont politics... the only issues are the issues... InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #124

Nice try. He's still not a Democrat. NurseJackie Mar 2019 #129

ARGLEBLARGLEBLERGH!! MrsCoffee Mar 2019 #142

Depends on how you define Democrat. kstewart33 Mar 2019 #153

Well, it's still here so you won! CTyankee Mar 2019 #15

Nothing at all. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #125

Since it worked so well against Hillary? forklift Mar 2019 #3

Bernie has higher name recognition now Carrito Mar 2019 #9

Bernie's campaign keeps gathering momentum... his dominance in foreign affairs, as demonstrated InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #22

Dominance in foreign affairs forklift Mar 2019 #76

Not!! Thekaspervote Mar 2019 #78

Honeymoon in Moscow! redstateblues Mar 2019 #79

What about the tour in Nicaragua to support the revolution? nt TexasTowelie Mar 2019 #93

Other than "this instance", what are his foreign policy credentials? Please proceed. George II Mar 2019 #83

See above. TexasTowelie Mar 2019 #94

OK, I've been wondering about you, but this confirms it. I love this joke! lunamagica Mar 2019 #141

And higher unfavorables Renew Deal Mar 2019 #105

Before Biden gets damaged in the GE for his past actions he must first win the primaries. Autumn Mar 2019 #61

You'd think so... Bernie's voting record is criticized incessantly around here. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #102

Later, Bro... LuvLoogie Mar 2019 #4

And Biden should ask him about the pervasive culture of sexual harassment he presided over LongtimeAZDem Mar 2019 #5

Yes, and then he can ask him about his treatment of Anita Hill. vsrazdem Mar 2019 #24

Post removed Post removed Mar 2019 #27

or his theory on rape still_one Mar 2019 #39

Easily done; he's handled it before. Then we go to Sander's rape fantasy essays, etc. LongtimeAZDem Mar 2019 #31

My money's on this guy... lapucelle Mar 2019 #57

Ugh...the very though of 2 old white guys arguing about rape fantasies... chimpymustgo Mar 2019 #150

My point is, every candidate has personal baggage of some sort. Bringing up policy differences vsrazdem Mar 2019 #35

I agree. Scorched earth primary campaigning is self defeating. emulatorloo Mar 2019 #36

You mean bringing up this nonsense about "rape fantasies" isn't scorched earth? Please Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2019 #114

Quoting what people say is real. Please. betsuni Mar 2019 #120

Trump will be talking about it endlessly at his rallies. kstewart33 Mar 2019 #155

And he in turn can be asked about child support. CrossingTheRubicon Mar 2019 #49

No TheRealNorth Mar 2019 #6

Yes. Sherrod Brown was on MSNBC a bit ago and said candidates need to focus on the General now emulatorloo Mar 2019 #37

That vote only counts if you're a woman MaryMagdaline Mar 2019 #8

It's like only obnoxiousdrunk Mar 2019 #14

Very true MaryMagdaline Mar 2019 #18

... NurseJackie Mar 2019 #10

Fantastic argument Carrito Mar 2019 #13

No need to argue. NurseJackie Mar 2019 #19

Funny stuff TheFarseer Mar 2019 #43

In this instance, Bernie has shown his superior foreign policy knowledge. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #12

He hasn't "shown" his full tax returns, that's for sure. Why the delay? Is he hiding something? NurseJackie Mar 2019 #20

That's right, change the subject... can't say I blame you for trying. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #21

This isn't going to go away. NurseJackie Mar 2019 #45

Good try again... but, doesn't detract from Bernie's superior foreign policy acumen. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #103

Please cite examples of Sanders foreign policy accomplishments mcar Mar 2019 #147

One of the few politicians who wasn't fooled by Shrub's Iraq War bullshit for starters. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #149

Exactly the opposite. CrossingTheRubicon Mar 2019 #58

One vote defines his "superior foreign policy knowledge"? Why do you discount.... George II Mar 2019 #74

Bernie is right on all counts, for the reasons he's splained many times. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #104

Sanders is for peace. David__77 Mar 2019 #112

He's a pragmatist. When asked under what circumstances he would use force: betsuni Mar 2019 #116

The Serbia/Kosovo issue is one on which I disagreed with Sanders. David__77 Mar 2019 #117

What "think tankers" and "Scoop Jackson types" are anti-peace? ehrnst Mar 2019 #135

Joe Lieberman is an example. David__77 Mar 2019 #136

Just Joe. No Democrats. ehrnst Mar 2019 #137

I think anyone advocating military intervention in Venezuela might fall in that category. David__77 Mar 2019 #138

You stated that "peace" might not be something that many are in favor of. ehrnst Mar 2019 #140

I said that peace might not be popular with some think tankers and Scoop Jackson types. David__77 Mar 2019 #148

Well, if votes are the indication that one is "for peace" you may change your mind on what votes ehrnst Mar 2019 #139

I guess if we're talking war and peace, namahage Mar 2019 #16

Biden isn't against F-35's being built Carrito Mar 2019 #17

Biden really doesn't have a position on whether or not or where the F-35s are built. George II Mar 2019 #81

Don't expect a reply. That poster has left the building... NurseJackie Mar 2019 #130

Don't worry. He will. nt Kahuna7 Mar 2019 #23

Fair game. That's for sure. WeekiWater Mar 2019 #25

STOP! elleng Mar 2019 #26

No Kidding.. did you ever feel like looking at the fighting in the back seat Peacetrain Mar 2019 #42

Yes indeed, Peacetrain, elleng Mar 2019 #46

.... Peacetrain Mar 2019 #47

Yes, love! elleng Mar 2019 #48

Oh ellen I missed this post! Peacetrain Mar 2019 #131

It is clearly potstirring, divisive, divide and conquer trolling. And I fell for it emulatorloo Mar 2019 #55

Yes it was emulatorloo.. good description Peacetrain Mar 2019 #132

Thank you ellen emulatorloo Mar 2019 #56

Thanks, emulatorloo. elleng Mar 2019 #59

You expected different from an OP namahage Mar 2019 #75

I don't study such, I read and respond. elleng Mar 2019 #77

sanders needs to get that message. He is more divisive than anyone lunamagica Mar 2019 #143

Putin approved aeromanKC Mar 2019 #29

Yep. Exactly. Squinch Mar 2019 #52

Both Joe Biden and HRC voted for the IWR in an effort to get Saddam to comply CrossingTheRubicon Mar 2019 #30

Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2019 #50

Not "retroactive." Decisions needed to be made with the evidence of the time. CrossingTheRubicon Mar 2019 #51

Yes I remember the day President Biden ordered the invasion of Iraq emulatorloo Mar 2019 #54

There is a difference between support and understanding. TexasTowelie Mar 2019 #98

Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2019 #118

Let Bernie bring it up then, TexasTowelie Mar 2019 #119

Somehow the majorty of our House dems voted against it. And 42 % of our Senators. PassingFair Mar 2019 #134

It was to keep the war machine fed. Now it's Venezuela roody Mar 2019 #67

LOL. Sure. CrossingTheRubicon Mar 2019 #69

Exactly. George war bush jumped the gun and lied to Americans. Hoyt Mar 2019 #82

If Bernie and Joe go to war a third candidate will be the beneficiary. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2019 #32

I don't think they Biden and Bernie will go to war with one another emulatorloo Mar 2019 #34

Hillary also voted for Iraq war but won the nomination anyway AlexSFCA Mar 2019 #33

Better to go after the bankruptcy bill Buzz cook Mar 2019 #38

The answer to this smear is right there in the article posted. R B Garr Mar 2019 #40

Oh look...it's from In These Times lapucelle Mar 2019 #65

Ah, yes. "Progressive" ----. good catch as always, lapucelle. R B Garr Mar 2019 #71

Sorry you don't like the source of the article. Buzz cook Mar 2019 #85

The bill is online. No need to be spoon fed biased claptrap R B Garr Mar 2019 #87

Then read the bill. Buzz cook Mar 2019 #97

You cherry-picked again. Desperate to omit the part about child R B Garr Mar 2019 #111

I read the statute. lapucelle Mar 2019 #151

I have no intention of reading the entire bill since I have more interesting things to do, TexasTowelie Mar 2019 #115

Will Mother Jones do? Buzz cook Mar 2019 #84

No one has to read a "lefty" rag to see the obvious manipulative R B Garr Mar 2019 #86

Have a donut... lapucelle Mar 2019 #152

It was about way more than that. Buzz cook Mar 2019 #91

Sorry, not the least bit interested in Generic Bernie R B Garr Mar 2019 #96

Your bias is showing. Buzz cook Mar 2019 #100

You are the one who is biased. The fact that you omit the R B Garr Mar 2019 #110

I just found out that Bernie blue cat Mar 2019 #41

Hey, it's not like he took part in a communist rally where they were chanting "death to America", or LongtimeAZDem Mar 2019 #88

Oh he will be. He will not escape vetting a second time. MrsCoffee Mar 2019 #144

Not productive in any way shape form or fashion Peacetrain Mar 2019 #44

This message was self-deleted by its author 33taw Mar 2019 #53

Biden should bring up Bernie's child support payments R B Garr Mar 2019 #60

I think they should discuss policy period. Negative campaigning does not help us. vsrazdem Mar 2019 #62

Deception doesn't help either. Deceptive self-serving generic R B Garr Mar 2019 #66

Didn't stop Sanders from bringing up Bill Clinton last time. LongtimeAZDem Mar 2019 #90

There are other factual things that are too risky for me to discuss in detail... NurseJackie Mar 2019 #70

Yes! Agreed, and we definitely deserve the truth! R B Garr Mar 2019 #72

Agreed and the excuses don't wash peggysue2 Mar 2019 #106

This crap. Now it's Venezuela. Same old crap. Eom roody Mar 2019 #63

Most Americans would not support a "deadbeat dad" for president. CrossingTheRubicon Mar 2019 #68

Bernie should... handmade34 Mar 2019 #64

Stop is right!! When DU'ers see these posts why not just scroll on by and let those that want Thekaspervote Mar 2019 #80

Or trash the thread completely. DinahMoeHum Mar 2019 #92

Carrito is a republican in disguise. Disregard lancelyons Mar 2019 #89

How's the weather in ST. Petersburg? nt backabby-blue Mar 2019 #95

Yes, let's all jump in the gutter and roll around in the mud. Its so effective. vsrazdem Mar 2019 #99

Biden should bring up Bernie's missing tax returns Renew Deal Mar 2019 #107

But but but His superior knowledge of foreign policy!! awesomerwb1 Mar 2019 #108

.... Docreed2003 Mar 2019 #127

Didn't he mention.... quickesst Mar 2019 #109

Biden hasn't declared. David__77 Mar 2019 #113

"the contrast between the two when it comes to war and peace." betsuni Mar 2019 #123

But he probably won't, because he doesn't want Biden to bring up his immigration vote. ucrdem Mar 2019 #128

I think we need to stop the infighting. 33taw Mar 2019 #133

Not this again. Some one should ask Sen. Sanders why he has repeatedly not voted for sanctions Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #145

Bernie should be more worried about Beto kcr Mar 2019 #146

LOL... more like the other way around. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #156

Biden will and should bring up Bernie's russia sanctions vote krawhitham Mar 2019 #154

When those two guys start bickering a third candidate will be the beneficiary. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2019 #157