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mr_lebowski

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43. This ... exactly. Calling for 'Reparations' is a LOSER for Democrats, period
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 11:26 PM
Jul 2019

We should champion programs that will help ALL the disadvantaged, regardless of race. This is a much easier sell. And because PoC's tend to be disadvantaged at a higher %, they will inherently be 'helped more' by such plans than the average white person.

You know for every 1 black person out there that would say to themselves 'Hell yes, I want reparations!', I'd bet there's 2 that would just like a leg up by virtue of the fact that they're struggling, and the system is set up against poor people, and DON'T want such a program to ONLY be offered to AA's, out of some sense of White Guilt over what a bunch of long dead people did.

IOW, it's not even going to be a particularly winning issue among AA voters, I don't think.

OTOH, it'll hurt us electorally ... with considerably more people. And especially in States we'll really need to win.

Here, Dem Leaders who may be reading ... here are terms that actually WORK:

Tuition Reform
Help with Vocational Training (you don't want it to sound like only 'elitist' college kids will be helped)
Student Debt Restructuring
Fixing the ACA with the Public Option it was always meant to have
Medicare BUY IN
A Jobs & Education Program to Help Lift Folks out of Poverty
A 21st Century Energy Program (not 'end fossil fuel use' by 2030 or whatever ... even though that should be the goal).

People like hearing of things that sound positive, and even more, that sound FAIR.

As the post I'm responding to points out:
Medicare For All (easy to spin as wildly unfair to Seniors who paid in all their lives)
Free College (easy to spin as unfair to non-elite kids who want vocational training and/or don't have the grades to get into college)
and for the love of Dog, Reparations? (it polls TERRIBLY)

Simply put ... these are ALL LOSERS.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

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Actually, a mostake is a mistake True Dough Jul 2019 #1
.. littlemissmartypants Jul 2019 #14
Don't encourage me! True Dough Jul 2019 #15
I'm sorry. I have to take my laughs when I can get them. littlemissmartypants Jul 2019 #18
I guess you could say True Dough Jul 2019 #19
Definitely. nt littlemissmartypants Jul 2019 #20
That may be the customerserviceguy Jul 2019 #27
if anyone can get people to understand the issue it is Beto JI7 Jul 2019 #2
It is not impossible to implement. There are already ideas wasupaloopa Jul 2019 #3
Yes you could do that; just don't call it reparations. brooklynite Jul 2019 #6
I think it should be called reparations. That is because wasupaloopa Jul 2019 #21
Hey, you are there..can't wait for your OP..Mr. sittin' in the 10th row.... asiliveandbreathe Jul 2019 #4
Repatations is a hard pass for me Tarc Jul 2019 #5
It's not about cutting checks. It's job training programs, college aid, small business... brush Jul 2019 #17
You do a good job of explaining reparations. wasupaloopa Jul 2019 #22
Thank you. I feel most people once they understand it's not about cutting individual... brush Jul 2019 #23
I get this, especially since my family, all Southern and from Confederate states, benefitted from CTyankee Jul 2019 #30
People from other countries will have to be educated about what happened, just as... brush Jul 2019 #35
my family came from a non european country that was colonized . I would say if it weren't for the JI7 Jul 2019 #40
Scotus will never go for it...and it will out hatred...lot of poor of all Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #52
Agreed it shouldn't be a campaign issue, but what does SCOTUS have to do with it? brush Jul 2019 #53
He isn't the only one. If Democrats think they are going to beat Trump they sure as hell doc03 Jul 2019 #7
he came close to winning Texas and his most famous moment was defending black lives matter JI7 Jul 2019 #9
He ran against the most hated man in DC. nt doc03 Jul 2019 #10
cruz beat trump in the primary in Texas which rubio could not do in his own state JI7 Jul 2019 #12
He got more votes than Obama ever did...and HRC....and Indygram Jul 2019 #24
Exactly customerserviceguy Jul 2019 #28
Castro and everyone who agreed with him is wrong Indygram Jul 2019 #31
So, what do you customerserviceguy Jul 2019 #34
He had multiple great moments for a general election Indygram Jul 2019 #36
Post removed Post removed Jul 2019 #38
This ... exactly. Calling for 'Reparations' is a LOSER for Democrats, period mr_lebowski Jul 2019 #43
Reparations is NOT about money, it is about REPAIRING what is broken Indygram Jul 2019 #8
Wouldn't it be nice to see littlemissmartypants Jul 2019 #16
Definition of reparation Indygram Jul 2019 #11
That's your opinion. And it is not impossible to implement. brush Jul 2019 #13
It won't have to be implemented customerserviceguy Jul 2019 #29
That's your opinion also. once they understand it's not about cutting individual checks... brush Jul 2019 #32
It's also about who's paying for it customerserviceguy Jul 2019 #33
Of course it should'nt be a campaign issue but it's silly to think anyone who came... brush Jul 2019 #39
Trump and the GOP customerserviceguy Jul 2019 #42
There's always excuses to not right this wrong. You found another one. brush Jul 2019 #44
I don't think it's a winning issue customerserviceguy Jul 2019 #45
I said in our first exchange it should not be a campaign issue so don't even try that. brush Jul 2019 #49
No! Not impossible! Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2019 #25
Electoral loser. Sorry. I like him but Beto is desperate. Not a good look. redstateblues Jul 2019 #26
O'Rourke VarryOn Jul 2019 #41
Not happy Bayard Jul 2019 #37
Spot on. There's a lot of inhumanity in the history of this country that should be... brush Jul 2019 #48
Reparations.Are.Not.About.Money Indygram Jul 2019 #50
What about living conditions on the reservations? Bayard Jul 2019 #56
O agree with Beto Gothmog Jul 2019 #46
Beto had a good night Gothmog Jul 2019 #47
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2019 #51
It's not a mistake. SouthernProgressive Jul 2019 #54
If it's necessary... brooklynite Jul 2019 #55
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