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Lazy Daisy

(928 posts)
21. Thank you
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 11:50 PM
Mar 2019

For a clear, non combative response. So here's mine

Yes, Bernie's msg is along those lines.

I would argue that he's NOT saying he's introduced these progressive ideas for the first time moreso that he's been pushing these ideas for a long time. I have seen him give credit where credit is due. In the beginning of the last primaries he credited Hillary's healthcare policies during her husbands Presidency. They did work together back then on healthcare.

I would also argue he's NOT saying Democrats have been corrupted, but that Government has been corrupted. That lobbyist have tainted governance for the average American. I don't think anybody can disagree with that. Is there any Democrat that doesn't want to see Citizens United overturned? Is there any Democrat that doesn't want big moneyed lobbyist reigned in? I love that Elizabeth Warren has set the bar for funding campaigns with small donors.

And for the last argument of this post.....I think most Americans do agree with many of his policy stances. Healthcare, wages, education, etc. Even red states are coming around to seeing how we've (American public) has been getting screwed for a long time and it's about time the pendulum swing back our way

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided

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Wish I could say I was surprised Eliot Rosewater Mar 2019 #1
Nepotism forklift Mar 2019 #2
Already am. More than a few. -nt. Amimnoch Mar 2019 #7
"The lack of transparency and the family ties has drawn criticism from good-government advocates." Cha Mar 2019 #3
Add this to his violent fall with stitches and no tax returns should end his Bid for the Whitehouse. stonecutter357 Mar 2019 #53
Huh. Wonder what his taxes could further illuminate on this subject too. Maru Kitteh Mar 2019 #4
Why not pay him $100,000. The gravy train was rolling. Blue_true Mar 2019 #9
There's something "off" about Bernie greymattermom Mar 2019 #5
Paying his clearly unqualified step-son 100K salary is really "off." Bodes poorly for decisions Maru Kitteh Mar 2019 #6
Indeed. He was TOTALLY unqualified... NurseJackie Mar 2019 #64
I wonder Lazy Daisy Mar 2019 #8
Bernie made himself out to be the PURE one though.... nt backabby-blue Mar 2019 #10
No he hasn't Lazy Daisy Mar 2019 #11
Oh yes he has. nt backabby-blue Mar 2019 #12
You are the one that accepts this behavior. backabby-blue Mar 2019 #13
Indeed it was... comradebillyboy Mar 2019 #58
His brand is based on being seen as the only one not corrupted by money. betsuni Mar 2019 #20
Thank you Lazy Daisy Mar 2019 #21
You could argue he's not saying that. MrsCoffee Mar 2019 #25
It's the "Bernie Standard"... every other candidate gets a free pass. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #27
Yes, he has. (nt) ehrnst Mar 2019 #51
What did Biden do to funnel cash to unqualified family members? WeekiWater Mar 2019 #18
I googled your question bkelly Mar 2019 #24
But, that wasn't Bernie... he's not a Democrat... except that he is. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #28
How? betsuni Mar 2019 #30
I'm not sure I take the time-line in the book "Clinton Cash" WeekiWater Mar 2019 #31
Well said emulatorloo Mar 2019 #32
+1 sheshe2 Mar 2019 #34
Indeed... (nt) ehrnst Mar 2019 #50
There's a whole different unfair standard that applies only to Bernie...dontcha know?! InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #26
Poor Bernie, unfairly held to standards every Democrat is held to! betsuni Mar 2019 #29
And Federal tax laws, too. George II Mar 2019 #37
It's a 501c3 organization. There is no double standard whatsoever.... George II Mar 2019 #36
Really? sheshe2 Mar 2019 #52
What are you talking about? George II Mar 2019 #35
Not surprised. NurseJackie Mar 2019 #14
So where are his Tax Returns? Cha Mar 2019 #15
He's not very transparent is he? backabby-blue Mar 2019 #16
No, he is not. He's been stalling Cha Mar 2019 #17
SHHH!!!!! ehrnst Mar 2019 #39
Called Vetting for Transparency! Cha Mar 2019 #41
HOW DARE YOU SUGGEST SUCH A THING! ehrnst Mar 2019 #43
that's me and those who insist.. Cha Mar 2019 #45
Can't a white, elderly, straight cis male get a BREAK ehrnst Mar 2019 #46
Rofl.. now you're just Cha Mar 2019 #48
.... ehrnst Mar 2019 #49
Shouldn't have said that other squeaky clean foundations were corrupt. betsuni Mar 2019 #19
Especially ones that actually got health care and meds to the people who needed them, ehrnst Mar 2019 #40
This message was self-deleted by its author ehrnst Mar 2019 #44
I will never forgive this, it makes my heart ache. betsuni Mar 2019 #22
It's sick! He was mathematically out already and continued. backabby-blue Mar 2019 #23
Nor will I. Cha Mar 2019 #33
That's some serious $$ being paid to a consultant. And a family member. (nt) ehrnst Mar 2019 #42
But, but, but, but.... ehrnst Mar 2019 #47
Speaks to a lack Skidmore Mar 2019 #54
The Sanders Institute was founded as a 501(c)(3) organization. Their political activity.... George II Mar 2019 #38
From VT Digger: From the Archive: 5 Bernie Sanders stories worth revisiting lapucelle Mar 2019 #55
Raises some questions and concerns for sure. -nt Amimnoch Mar 2019 #56
+1,000,000 George II Mar 2019 #57
Interesting history. sheshe2 Mar 2019 #59
BS needs More Transparency.. Cha Mar 2019 #62
Did you make this an OP? Vermont knows him best after all. Maru Kitteh Mar 2019 #68
Done. The Vermont press does know him well. lapucelle Mar 2019 #69
Thanks for the link. Maru Kitteh Mar 2019 #73
Think tank sunk oasis Mar 2019 #60
No kidding! Cha Mar 2019 #61
A sink tank! betsuni Mar 2019 #63
Clever... lapucelle Mar 2019 #66
This is kneecapping. Sanders is not Trump, but someone would like us to think he is. McCamy Taylor Mar 2019 #65
Whole books have been written about the Kennedy, Bush, and Clinton families and money, lapucelle Mar 2019 #67
Mahalo for explaining things to that Cha Mar 2019 #71
... Cha Mar 2019 #70
Who here said "Jewish People love money to excess"? No one other than you from what I've seen. Why? George II Mar 2019 #72
That's quite a strawman there... accusing people who have questions here of being anti-semitic. ehrnst Mar 2019 #75
Oh please. yardwork Mar 2019 #78
I wish that they would post their 2018 990. ehrnst Mar 2019 #74
Follow the money...nt LexVegas Mar 2019 #76
I find it odd the number of people who support Kamala Harris never post about her. Oops, my Autumn Mar 2019 #77
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