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Garrett78

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8. You're missing the point.
Sun Aug 18, 2019, 10:42 AM
Aug 2019

The vast majority of "independents" are just as set in their ways as those who identify with a party. In fact, studies have shown that today's "independents" are more partisan than the average party-affiliated voter was a few decades ago. They simply like calling themselves "independent" for any number of reasons. It isn't because they're on the fence and ripe for the picking.

Many people have suggested that the key to winning in 2020 is winning over Trump voters.

This is a quote from the person being interviewed:

The explanation, of course, is that it was this giant turnout of core constituencies, that either are Democrats or favor Democrats — they’re independents who favor Democrats — and they have a huge turnout explosion. So it's not the same pool of voters changing their minds and voting Democrat after voting Republican because of the issue of health care. It's a whole different pool of voters.

They might have many reasons that they cite, and probably this is not the reason they would cite. But what made them enraged and show up is Trump Inc., the negative partisanship. I don't know why Nancy Pelosi, the DCCC or many of these moderate members are convinced that moderate Republicans crossed over and voted for them. I have the data for some of these districts and the data tells a very different, very clear story: If Republicans voted in huge numbers, they voted for Republicans.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided

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Salon propped up Jill Stein and spent the cycle bashing Clinton. TwilightZone Aug 2019 #1
Regardless of your thoughts on the messenger, the message is worth reading. Garrett78 Aug 2019 #3
The assertion about Republicans is the author's, not that of the person being interviewed. TwilightZone Aug 2019 #6
You're missing the point. Garrett78 Aug 2019 #8
If anyone thinks republicans are going to vote for a dem, I've got a bridge... onecaliberal Aug 2019 #2
I mde lots of calls and knocked on many doors for the FL Democratic party in 2018. lark Aug 2019 #4
And the people who might be moved are few and far between. A campaign can't be run based on... Garrett78 Aug 2019 #5
I agree. lark Aug 2019 #9
False... brooklynite Aug 2019 #14
One was new and replacing 8 years of Bush. The other was under attack for 25 years. Garrett78 Aug 2019 #16
Did Republicans win, ever, by purposely seeking Democratic support? Beartracks Aug 2019 #7
Yes, Ronald Reagan. brooklynite Aug 2019 #15
Michigan and Wisconsin have open primaries. ucrdem Aug 2019 #10
Except that's exactly how we elected Kirsten Sinema in Arizona LongtimeAZDem Aug 2019 #11
Agree! Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #12
IMO Sinema is such a lite-democrat she might as well be a Repug. Look at her voting record. in2herbs Aug 2019 #13
And there's a world of difference between a statewide race in a red state... Garrett78 Aug 2019 #18
Of course there's a difference, but the OP specifically talked about 2018 LongtimeAZDem Aug 2019 #19
Excellent article and food for thought SharonClark Aug 2019 #17
They did gain Republican votes...which is why 40 moderates won the house...another BS article by Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #20
+1,000,000 ucrdem Aug 2019 #21
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