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In reply to the discussion: This message was self-deleted by its author [View all]Garrett78
(10,721 posts)227. I'm still waiting for you or anyone else to name even 3 "really good Republicans" in Congress.
Face it, the statement is nothing more than a tactic to get elected. It's not based on reality. You know that, I know that, Biden knows that.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
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Either he's delusional or he thinks this is the best way to become president.
Garrett78
Aug 2019
#10
Did someone just say that a Democratic vice president wasn't paying attention
lapucelle
Aug 2019
#244
Turning out the base in larger numbers than we saw in 2016 is the key to winning in 2020. Period.
Garrett78
Aug 2019
#331
There are some who definitely live in a bubble. Even Sanders not that long ago was
still_one
Oct 2019
#478
I'm praying he meant, "There are a lot of really God awful Republicans out there" and misspoke.
TheBlackAdder
Dec 2019
#495
Can someone who voted Republican for two-thirds of their life until 1996 be a good, decent person?
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#95
I understand. Liz has gotten good and decent Republicans to co-sponsor her bills. She would know.
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#135
I see your point, andf maybe they would. Maybe not. But, I still want to see a list of who they are
rpannier
Aug 2019
#137
If you are referring to Warren, you obviously have done very little research or are just
Celerity
Aug 2019
#428
I stepped in and back-filled for you on that one (you had mentioned me in your initial reply)
Celerity
Aug 2019
#464
I think it madness to viciously attack other candidates, it only hurts our chances to beat Trump
Celerity
Aug 2019
#466
The good people who see nothing, hear nothing, speak nothing, and defend Trump at every turn.
dalton99a
Aug 2019
#6
Is someone who volunteered for Goldwater & was/voted Republican until 1996 NOT A GOOD PERSON?
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#94
this is flat out rubbish, Warren did not volunteer for Goldwater and the only Repug POTUS candidate
Celerity
Sep 2019
#468
Joe Biden is one of the very few that can and will reach across the aisle
democratisphere
Aug 2019
#8
The same ones who are going to vote for Warren's and Sanders' Medicare-for-all. Boom!!!
Skya Rhen
Aug 2019
#344
The Public Option, even if we hold the House, and take back the Senate by say 51-49 or so, will not
Celerity
Sep 2019
#469
thanks, and I take zero pleasure in playing the role of the pessimist, our healthcare system
Celerity
Sep 2019
#471
What does this OP contribute on a site named "Democratic Underground"? Don't understand the point.
George II
Aug 2019
#25
This isn't going to hurt Biden. It'll just be one more trivial complaint by people opposed to him
highplainsdem
Aug 2019
#40
What is wrong with getting the other side to vote for you and my brother is GOP still love him
Demsrule86
Aug 2019
#268
All designed to divide us, and it is working...I know who is doing it on twitter and HERE
Eliot Rosewater
Aug 2019
#279
Biden will never cut Medicare, Medicaid, or Social Security. You are taking a leap. NT
emmaverybo
Aug 2019
#20
"Entitlements", which is a right wing term anyway, aren't even mention anywhere here.
George II
Aug 2019
#27
The are either cowards or willingly complicit in the attempted murder of democracy.
pangaia
Aug 2019
#13
Nobody here knows 1/10000000 what Joe knows about Congress so I trust him.
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#14
WTF? Not any more. They are the cult of trump. Not helpful, Joe. And, not true.
NRaleighLiberal
Aug 2019
#15
Whole lot better than some of the language I see thrown around on social media. NT
emmaverybo
Aug 2019
#22
"If you start off with the notion there's nothing you can do, well why don't you all go home then,..
Cha
Aug 2019
#19
He is right. But he should save this rhetoric for the general election if he is the nominee.
Chemisse
Aug 2019
#113
Agree! For Biden to just immediately say all repubs area shit and not going to consider them??
Thekaspervote
Aug 2019
#191
Great OP. Joe is a real statesman who knows how to build a coalition government.
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#21
That it did. Obama sent Joe in to negotiate--and Joe helped Obama get done what he wanted doing.
emmaverybo
Aug 2019
#24
USED to be, Joe. Used to be. You want to invite them in now? Because they always leave our
ancianita
Aug 2019
#23
yeah, no candidate who is actually running for office is going to say something different.
JI7
Aug 2019
#56
Because he knows there will come a day when those 1-2 gop votes may mean the difference
Thekaspervote
Aug 2019
#262
Case in point - Joe helped to convince McCain (a decent Republican) to "thumbs down" the repeal of
Skya Rhen
Aug 2019
#41
Joe was VP for 8 years. Parkhomenko presided over a failed presidential campiagn.
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#51
Joe was not referring to Moscow Mitch, who is why Republicans have been intimidated.
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#109
smart !! We need to get the small fraction of Republicans who are 1/2 sane !
Laura PourMeADrink
Aug 2019
#68
What I find amusing is when Sanders said pretty much the same thing a while back, many of the
still_one
Aug 2019
#71
I would expect some of the more "outraged" in this thread will be disappointed indeed if any
still_one
Aug 2019
#74
Its there, but I will give you a better link where Sanders doesn't think trump voters are racists,
still_one
Aug 2019
#83
I agree. It may be "feel good" catharsis for one's followers, but generalizations
still_one
Aug 2019
#123
This is Biden's consistent message. Would you recommend Sanders to say that there's an awful lot
Skya Rhen
Aug 2019
#76
"I do not believe that most of the people who are thinking about voting for Mr. Trump are racist..."
LanternWaste
Aug 2019
#447
This is asinine -- McConnell is not going to work with Biden any more than he worked with Obama...
RockRaven
Aug 2019
#80
Well, Senator Sanders' idea to get McConnell to do the right thing is to hold rallies.
betsuni
Aug 2019
#89
Warren found "really good" Republicans to co-sponsor her bills and has a good record of doing this.
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#96
Without Joe, ObamaCare would be dead. He spoke to McCain until they were both crying...
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#93
Discussing how he would build legislative consensus at a private fundraiser is not "pandering".
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#348
Bernie must agree w/Joe. He voted w/Republicans against undocumented immigrants.
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#104
Bernie has a working relationship with Republicans who voted against undocumented immigrants.
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#105
Joe, Bernie & Elizabeth must agree on this. They have all worked with Republicans.
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#107
Talking about how people who don't want to discuss their candidate always deflect to another.
Autumn
Aug 2019
#364
It's all good. A lot of candidates are just as low or lower. The race has just begun.
Autumn
Aug 2019
#407
Why Bernie Sanders Loves the Most Conservative Man in the Senate (by Daily Beast)
Skya Rhen
Aug 2019
#122
Sad to say I have many republicans in my family but they are not horrible people.
FloridaBlues
Aug 2019
#101
I understand that they're family, but if they STILL support Trump, an open racist...
NNadir
Aug 2019
#228
When Joe said there are good Republicans out there - obviously he meant those around the country.
Skya Rhen
Aug 2019
#350
Actual Republican Senators: "We have worked with Joe Biden and would do it again."
Gothmog
Nov 2019
#488
Bobby Kennedy trusted Joe McCarthy enough to work for him and attend his funeral.
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#130
in 2018 there was a surge of democratic voters. There was also a surge in republican voters.
Kurt V.
Aug 2019
#143
Independents float both ways. Joe could capture some of them with comments like this.
honest.abe
Aug 2019
#439
only 8-12% of the electorate are true indies. the rest lean right or left and vote accordingly.
Kurt V.
Aug 2019
#443
I understand your point. For sure its a delicate balance between capturing some indies/moderates..
honest.abe
Aug 2019
#444
Maybe. They don't get elected, though, because the GOPer voters only want racist pigs in office.
Hoyt
Aug 2019
#140
Moderate Republicans and right-leaning independents in the Philly suburbs are key to winning PA.
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#150
I have volunteered w/the local Democratic party in Pittsburgh and Philly since 2007.
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#166
Thanks, Joe, for reaching out to good Republicans like McCain who saved the ACA. Let's never forget!
Skya Rhen
Aug 2019
#142
Collins and Murkowski are still alive. Also, because of them we have Obamacare and deserve credit
Skya Rhen
Aug 2019
#147
Yeah they have been a big help in keeping drunk rapists off the SC court and keeping
Autumn
Aug 2019
#151
And for sure!! Let's vote them all out. That would be the idyllic way.. one can hope
Thekaspervote
Aug 2019
#416
If only Joe had seen the Republican in action during Obama's term and since Trump's. Oh wait....
Autumn
Aug 2019
#145
Does Steyer matter? He has nothing to do with the discussion about Joe and his decent
Autumn
Aug 2019
#163
Of course he matters. You allegedly support him. What is his position on working with Republicans?
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#170
We will find that out at the debate. His main past position has been spending millions getting
Autumn
Aug 2019
#173
Why on earth would Joe tell us their names? So they can get primaried and/or pilloried?
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#176
That's a silly reply. We are Democrats, I think we all know what the Republicans are.
Autumn
Aug 2019
#207
What is sillier are anonymous bloggers that demand names!! Keep demanding.
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#269
Steyer exiting the race will reveal who these "awful lot of good Republicans" are? .
Autumn
Aug 2019
#385
It remains to be seen. No one...especially mr. Biden or for that matter any of our candidates are
Thekaspervote
Aug 2019
#415
No where in my posts did I say I KNEW there were some really good repubs out there. You are twisting
Thekaspervote
Aug 2019
#452
I didn't say you KNEW there were some really good republicans out there. Biden said that.
Autumn
Aug 2019
#459
Liz would not agree. She has a good track record of having them co-sponsor her legislation.
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#271
Do you remember what happened to NJ Gov. Christie's standing in the GOP after Barack praised him?
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#402
Not my point. Anyone Joe names will be primaried so do not expect him to do so.
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#424
Joe saw them in action during Obama's term and he still took a chance on McCain. Was he wrong to
Skya Rhen
Aug 2019
#155
The ACA is important to me and millions of others. I will forever be grateful for that "one vote."
Skya Rhen
Aug 2019
#161
Senators Collins and Murkowski. They will always work with Democrats to deny any future repeal
Skya Rhen
Aug 2019
#165
You can kill the messenger if you want, but things do change. You cannot stop progress
Thekaspervote
Aug 2019
#276
Your words: "If Joe tearfully pled with him, good for him". No - good for millions of us Americans.
Skya Rhen
Aug 2019
#355
Ignore what McCain had to say about it. Since his intention was to not save Obamacare
Autumn
Aug 2019
#366
Joe described what happened the night with McCain before the vote. Your insinuations are funny.
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#386
That's straight from McCain. One of them good republicans I guess? It's not my insinuation.
Autumn
Aug 2019
#397
Well McCain didn't "walk into hell for a heavenly cause." saving Obamacare was not his goal
Autumn
Aug 2019
#412
What's the difference? If you don't like what I say, why keep responding?
Thekaspervote
Aug 2019
#453
As long as it's insisted McCain voted to save the ACA because he's a "really good republican"
Autumn
Aug 2019
#458
Oh dear. If that is the case dear Joe, why didn't you work your miracle and get Merrick Garland
Ninga
Aug 2019
#160
Merrick Garland will get that hearing in 2021, under President Biden. Better late than never...
Skya Rhen
Aug 2019
#167
If Garland is a replacement for any of the liberal justices then Biden will be a one term president.
Ace Rothstein
Aug 2019
#440
Moscow Mitch is not one of the good ones. Warren got good Republicans to co-sponsor her bills.
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#168
Your point about a miracle is exactly why we need to keep that door open to that 1 good repub
Thekaspervote
Aug 2019
#329
It's called smart politics. You would think that would be a little more understood and
UniteFightBack
Aug 2019
#200
Loudest Republican voice against 'send her back' in Wisconsin is a congressman from Trump country.
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#180
I understand this is a tactic to get votes, but he can't actually believe that.
Garrett78
Aug 2019
#182
It is all perspective. Republican voters could the same about naming good Democrats.
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#185
Sorry, your viewpoint is in the minority in this country. I am making a sensible statement.
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#192
D'oh. Joe won't name names so his future allies will get primaried and/or pilloried.
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#214
I'm still waiting for you or anyone else to name even 3 "really good Republicans" in Congress.
Garrett78
Aug 2019
#227
Even broken clocks are right twice a day. Warren and Bernie work with Republicans too.
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#265
Former Republican Federal Prosecutors Speak Out Against President Trump's Obstruction of Justice
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#183
Nebraska lawmaker, a Republican, says his own party enables white supremacy
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#190
Obama/Biden 2008-2016 defined "forward" - Biden will beat Trump, move forward with a LOYAL VP.
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#204
Senate Republicans speak out against Trump's shutdown: "A lot of unneeded stress on a lot of people"
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#202
Of course not. That doesn't mean what he said is based in reality. It most definitely isn't.
Garrett78
Aug 2019
#210
Tell us how Pres. Garrett78 gets legislation passed w/o GOP allies in a divided Congress.
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#221
Name these GOP allies. Name these "really good Republicans" who will work with a Dem. president.
Garrett78
Aug 2019
#231
No, it is not a tactic. It was a "gotcha" media moment at a fundraiser. Here are more than "ONE!"...
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#248
Occasionally opposing Trump out of self-preservation is all it takes to qualify as "really good?"
Garrett78
Aug 2019
#249
You went from asking to have good repubs named to saying you know it's a political tactic
Thekaspervote
Aug 2019
#317
yes, it is a low bar, but I'm here to tell ya, who ever our candidate is, they better damn well be
Thekaspervote
Aug 2019
#392
I'll believe it when I see a mass movement of republicans speaking against Trump
Politicub
Aug 2019
#212
Yes, it would be wonderful. Warren would tell you that Joe is right because...
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#230
Loudest Republican voice against 'send her back' in Wisconsin is a congressman from Trump country.
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#233
Joe is not going to publicize their names to save them from being primaried but here are more...
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#245
I don't know. It sounds a bit like Nixon's 1968 "secret plan" to end the war in Vietnam.
NNadir
Aug 2019
#326
Tell me how a Democratic President can pass legislation through a divided Congress w/o GOP allies?
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#399
Maybe he is indeed just speak to that one... the one he can persuade when it comes to saving
Thekaspervote
Aug 2019
#286
If true, why not persuade them right now to get McConnell to fix election infrastructure & guns?
JudyM
Aug 2019
#226
Joe was being Joe at a private fundraiser. There was no tactic involved, just honesty.
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#391
Loudest Republican voice against 'send her back' in Wisconsin is a confressman from Trump country.
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#241
To all those bashing Joe:Tell me how your candidate will pass legislation w/o GOP allies in Congress
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#239
Not answering the question. Ignoring the names I sent you? Deflection noted.
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#259
Tell me how your candidate will pass legislation w/o GOP allies in Congress.
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#282
I see that you've completely given up on the original argument. That's a wise move.
Garrett78
Aug 2019
#303
Tell me how a Democratic President can pass legislation w/o GOP allies in a divided Congress.
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#319
Name these GOP allies. If you can't, then your statement is based on a false premise.
Garrett78
Aug 2019
#322
I'm just glad you gave up on naming a single "really good Republican." A wise move on your part.
Garrett78
Aug 2019
#334
She helped save ObamaCare/ACA and made life better for hundreds of millions of people.
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#343
If you want to believe that a vote or two makes someone a "really good" person or that...
Garrett78
Aug 2019
#361
Tactics, schmatics. Joe was being Joe. He was at a private fundraiser not at the Iowa State Fair.
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#288
Ummm folks it is called trying to get the other side to vote for you...and what is wrong with that?
Demsrule86
Aug 2019
#264
As long as people recognize that it's a tactic to win votes and nothing more, fine.
Garrett78
Aug 2019
#273
Um, I'm talking about votes in next year's primaries. People don't vote at fundraisers.
Garrett78
Aug 2019
#277
Joe is talking about how to govern in order to pass legislation. That is a POTUS' primary focus.
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#297
You've given up on naming "really good Republicans" and resorted to an absurd argument.
Garrett78
Aug 2019
#291
Tell me how a Democratic POTUS would pass legislation w/o GOP allies in a divided Congress.
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#302
And....that has nothing to do with desiring to stop the feuding and doing something for this country
Demsrule86
Aug 2019
#292
So how would a Democratic President pass legislation in a divided Congress?
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#280
I agree. How does it look so far? You sound like you know what you are talking about.
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#300
Yeah, I've concluded that this was a gaffe. He meant to say Republicans are "an awful lot."
Garrett78
Aug 2019
#296
Rhetoric 101. "I don't believe you're a racist, but..." means you're about to imply he's a racist.
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#318
The three Republicans who crossed the aisle to save ObamaCare from Trump.
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#377
You keep swinging and missing. A vote or two, generally out of self-preservation, does not...
Garrett78
Aug 2019
#378
Purity tests mean sh*t to those whose ObamaCare was saved due to bipartisanship.
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#380
Joe was being Joe. The absurdity is your determination to reduce what Joe said to a cheap trick.
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#393
Which President Obama stated repeatedly when dems and the fight picking media came down on him hard
Thekaspervote
Aug 2019
#321
Liz has GOP co-sponsors for her bills and Bernie votes with them on anti-immigrant legislation.
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#323
Joe said it at a private fundraiser when he was likely asked how he could pass legislation as POTUS.
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#340
Being pragmatic in getting legislation passed is different than promoting the other side
dlk
Jan 2020
#499
Oh. The good GOPers are just spineless, sniveling cowards. But Biden can work with them.
Eyeball_Kid
Aug 2019
#337
Joe spent all night asking McCain to vote NO to save ObamaCare/ACA. That was a BFD for hundreds...
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#354
Discussing how to reach legislative consensus is sensible and expected at a private fundraiser...
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#360
+1000 love the jif of Obama by the way, althou he had to many times placate repubs he never
Thekaspervote
Aug 2019
#396
Could you give some examples of how you think Mr. Biden is supporting trump?
Thekaspervote
Aug 2019
#401
Exactly. When I lived in Oregon, I'd hear people say the Mark Hatfield Republicans are no more.
Garrett78
Aug 2019
#362
Three Republicans helped save ObamaCare/ACA which was a BFD to hundreds of millions of Americans.
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#369
A vote or two, no matter how significant, does not make someone a "really good" person, nor...
Garrett78
Aug 2019
#371
Americans who've ObamaCare thanks to bipartisanship don't care about purity tests for goodness.
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#373
Some live. Warren values reaching across the aisle and finds Republicans co-sponsors for her bills.
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#365
Liz has a very good track record of reaching across the aisle & getting finding GOP co-sponsors.
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#367
Sorry to interrupt your dialog, but yes I do. What I find interesting is some people prefer to
still_one
Aug 2019
#395
I am going to print this ACA history lesson out for my son. Bookmarked too.
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#409
the 60 vote thing is an senate rule and we could of changed it if we actually wanted good healthcare
questionseverything
Aug 2019
#418
Please name one candidate running for the Democratic nomination who has said they won't try to work
still_one
Aug 2019
#398
I look forward to this same level of energy being expended in the GE as it relates to canvassing and
Skya Rhen
Aug 2019
#441
In this day and age I don't mind that he said this if he really doesn't mean it. N/T
theophilus
Aug 2019
#449
I agree with 'working' with Republicans. I don't agree with Ellen. Politicians
empedocles
Oct 2019
#479
Biden will win because he doesn't try to eradicate the other side. He offers them a way out.
PubliusEnigma
Oct 2019
#476
Weld said Trump's strongest opponent is Biden because "he's a lunch-pail Democrat
Gothmog
Oct 2019
#480