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Demsrule86

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43. Do you understand we lost the presidency for 12 years starting with Reagan...and it was a miracle

Mon Aug 19, 2019, 11:26 AM

Aug 2019

we won in 92...Clinton never had a majority...and despite all the whining about Clinton there was good there...and we got to SCOTUS picks that would have gone to the other side. The country has shifted right that is what happens when you elect GOP presidents...and Joe never 'went along' with demands...he got the best deal he could...but I will say this the compromise that is needed to fix this country will be something no one likes that much...something for everyone...that is the nature of compromise without which our republican will fail.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Biden is crafting a message for the general election. [View all] Drunken Irishman Aug 2019 OP

Joe knows the ropes and he's playing for the long haul. I trust him... Skya Rhen Aug 2019 #1

Since DownriverDem Aug 2019 #24

trump has proven he Cha Aug 2019 #2

I gotta apologize to you. I did a post that was stupid. It's not the first time. I'm sure you do rusty quoin Aug 2019 #3

I remember some little dust up.. Cha Aug 2019 #14

We all make posts like that. Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #40

. George II Aug 2019 #71

"Do I believe Biden really, truly believes what he's saying? No." melman Aug 2019 #4

Politicians walk a very tight rope. If anyone...anyone believes in the good in every man, woman Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #5

I also didn't believe Obama opposed gay marriage when he ran in 2008... Drunken Irishman Aug 2019 #7

Excellent point onetexan Aug 2019 #8

I see the Biden bashers have arrived. Eliot Rosewater Aug 2019 #77

I also didn't believe Obama when he said he opposed gay marriage in 2008... Kahuna7 Sep 2019 #84

A politician isn't a religious leader or activist. betsuni Aug 2019 #12

Saying things you don't believe is the job? melman Aug 2019 #16

What is "belief"? That's religion. betsuni Aug 2019 #19

What I was just thinking treestar Aug 2019 #68

Saying what you will support and that can be different from what you believe. treestar Aug 2019 #67

Well I DownriverDem Aug 2019 #25

How easily and seamlessly you twist words Cary Aug 2019 #31

Thank you! peggysue2 Aug 2019 #49

Agreed Cary Aug 2019 #57

But of course, as if Joe is the first politician to say things that he may or may not believe Eliot Rosewater Aug 2019 #78

It is called winning the election...and you have to try...Biden is not naive he knows the Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #41

Ari Melber had an interesting take this morning Cary Aug 2019 #58

I remember saying it too...last time. Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #62

And I remember you saying it too. Cary Aug 2019 #65

I like Biden, but many on the far left hate him. We are doing this tight rope walk here. rusty quoin Aug 2019 #6

The Far Left DownriverDem Aug 2019 #26

I like Warren but she will not win a general IMHO...as for the far left the stein voting swine... Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #42

No candidate is saying they won't work with Republicans. BeyondGeography Aug 2019 #9

Biden DownriverDem Aug 2019 #28

He was also there for decades before loyalsister Aug 2019 #34

Do you understand we lost the presidency for 12 years starting with Reagan...and it was a miracle Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #43

um.... TrunKated Aug 2019 #55

The only reason Clinton won was because of Ross Perot...he took votes away from Papa Bush... Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #63

I've seen studies... TrunKated Aug 2019 #64

He took $200,000 to give a speech for a Republican during the 2018 midterms JonLP24 Aug 2019 #10

Not the OMG A DEMOCRAT NOT IN OFFICE GAVE A SPEECH FOR MONEY!111 thing again. betsuni Aug 2019 #13

Eeeek! Cha Aug 2019 #15

BEHIND CLOSED DOORS WITH CANAPES. betsuni Aug 2019 #17

"Can a peas" - frankie five angels empedocles Aug 2019 #33

He did not give a speech for the Republican OKNancy Aug 2019 #18

Thank you. betsuni Aug 2019 #20

it is a GOP 'talking point', but NOT the way you mean it, they literally used it in their adverts Celerity Aug 2019 #50

So now our Democrats should run their lives in fear that sometime somewhere in the future.... George II Aug 2019 #70

This message was self-deleted by its author Celerity Aug 2019 #72

Instead of calling my post a failed "gish-gallop of rationalisation and deflection" and posting.... George II Aug 2019 #73

If any other of our POTUS candidates had kneecapped the local Dems and Matt Longjohn Celerity Aug 2019 #74

Like I said, look into the Club that organized that appearance and the others who speak before them. George II Aug 2019 #76

Upton "one of the finest guys I've ever worked with" (no response to Dem candidate asking for help) DrFunkenstein Sep 2019 #88

I only DownriverDem Aug 2019 #29

Good to know you're voting for ALL of the current candidates, since they're all Dems. n/t theaocp Aug 2019 #35

Bernis is an independent. nt in2herbs Aug 2019 #51

So not voting fpr Bernie? Buzz cook Aug 2019 #59

I only hope those candidates with little to no chance bow out gracefully so we beat Trump. Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #44

For about the 100th time, he did NOT give a speech "for a republican during the 2018 midterms". George II Aug 2019 #66

Where do these talking points come from? Cha Aug 2019 #69

All good points, DI. It's what I've sensed, & you articulate it very well Hekate Aug 2019 #11

The Democratic Party should be a big tent, welcoming those who broadly agree with one another, elocs Aug 2019 #21

It is a big tent DownriverDem Aug 2019 #30

The fuck it's not who we want. theaocp Aug 2019 #36

We went through this whole exercise several months ago and it had no effect on his front-runner Skya Rhen Aug 2019 #39

Primaries should be a means for choosing a candidate who can win a general...nominating someone Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #46

+10000 Celerity Aug 2019 #75

It "should" be a big tent, but those of us who are not Liberal enough elocs Aug 2019 #47

Yes, that is how is see it as well. honest.abe Aug 2019 #22

Only 4 years out of the last 36 years.. That's all. Amimnoch Aug 2019 #23

Good post. brer cat Aug 2019 #37

Not all independent voters are alike, -very dangerous assumption Fiendish Thingy Aug 2019 #27

I have to decide whether to wash socks. BBL. n/t rzemanfl Aug 2019 #53

It's a strategy. TDale313 Aug 2019 #32

IF a Democrat wins in 2020, that Democrat will have to repair the damage done by trump Gothmog Aug 2019 #38

This! peggysue2 Aug 2019 #52

polls are indicating it is an almost certainty that whoever runs against tRump will win. Joe941 Aug 2019 #56

not a diss at Hillary but look what happened in 2016 when all the polls were showing her winning onetexan Aug 2019 #61

K&R Scurrilous Aug 2019 #45

Rec. cwydro Aug 2019 #48

I agree. Biden is a savvy politician... Joe941 Aug 2019 #54

K&R highplainsdem Aug 2019 #60

So your pitch for Biden is that he's good at being insincere? nt Maven Aug 2019 #79

No. My pitch is that he's going to win. Drunken Irishman Aug 2019 #81

Jill Biden-Joe will win this election Gothmog Aug 2019 #80

Joe Biden still bests fellow Democrats on electability, polls show Gothmog Sep 2019 #82

IMO, a lot of the never-trump repubs are begging us to nominate Biden Kahuna7 Sep 2019 #83

The Rockefeller Republicans Can Sit Out While Warren Drives Big Turnout DrFunkenstein Sep 2019 #85

Hmm. I doubt that. If she's more electable, her head to head polling Kahuna7 Sep 2019 #86

What's Joe's plan for corruption? crazytown Sep 2019 #87

Joe Biden's appeal actually isn't a mystery Gothmog Sep 2019 #89

NEW POLL: Biden's health care proposal more popular than Medicare for All Gothmog Sep 2019 #90

The hardest job for the next president may be fixing Trump's mess Gothmog Sep 2019 #91