Democratic Primaries

betsuni

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40. When your ideology is based on things that aren't true.

Reply to Seedersandleechers (Original post)

Thu Sep 5, 2019, 09:27 PM

Sep 2019

As Hillary said in a debate, "Enough is enough. If you've got something to say, say it directly. But you will not find that I ever changed a vote because of any donation I've ever received."

Come on, Michael, show the evidence that Hillary was controlled by Goldman Sachs because she made a speech. Biden was VP for eight years, show evidence that because he's friends with the guy who held a fundraiser for him, he pushed for deregulation and fracking. Show us any evidence that a Democrat has taken fossil fuel money and changed their positions or votes. Show evidence that the 2916 primary was rigged.

You used to be very careful to fact check, you said so in one of your books. What happened? Too many CTs will really mess up a person I guess.

Please, Michael, stop.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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A few words from Michael Moore [View all] Seedersandleechers Sep 2019 OP

Fuck him SHRED Sep 2019 #1

+ JI7 Sep 2019 #4

I don't! Biden could win the nomination... Jeffersons Ghost Sep 2019 #81

I stopped paying attention to Moore a long time ago Gothmog Sep 2019 #97

Yep SHRED Sep 2019 #99

If Michael Moore really cared about Climate Change he shouldn't have done this Otto Lidenbrock Sep 2019 #2

Exactly! eom BlueMTexpat Sep 2019 #17

Exactly. Nader and his supporters helped elect George Bush and defeat Al Gore. highplainsdem Sep 2019 #32

actually if the votes would of been counted in florida, gore would of been elected questionseverything Sep 2019 #56

Fuck Michael Moore. W_HAMILTON Sep 2019 #3

on THE DAY of that Trump tower meeting JI7 Sep 2019 #11

like him. feel exactly the same as i did a few minutes ago. Kurt V. Sep 2019 #5

yawn.. evertonfc Sep 2019 #6

Except Anderson Cooper clarified at the end that Mr. Goldman "currently emulatorloo Sep 2019 #7

that is not true questionseverything Sep 2019 #51

I find Cooper more credible than "Splinter." Of course your mileage may vary emulatorloo Sep 2019 #53

he co founded the company and is listed under leadership on there web site questionseverything Sep 2019 #58

The dude is retired as far as I can tell. There is a lot of "spin" in the Splinter article emulatorloo Sep 2019 #60

upsidedown world...where the guy who starts the fossil fuel company is not questionseverything Sep 2019 #106

Moore is not a friend of the Dems..he's in it for himself, the rest of it he couldn't care less Thekaspervote Sep 2019 #8

Sorry Moore Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Sep 2019 #9

Huh... Mike Nelson Sep 2019 #10

And if I'm not mistaken she donated that fee to the Clinton Foundation. betsuni Sep 2019 #16

This is one of many reasons BlueMTexpat Sep 2019 #19

She also refused to release transcripts FoxNewsSucks Sep 2019 #25

she was a private citizen. she didn't need to release everything JI7 Sep 2019 #29

MF45 was a "private citizen", so was rMoney FoxNewsSucks Sep 2019 #84

she released the tax returns JI7 Sep 2019 #87

I know. FoxNewsSucks Sep 2019 #98

If you're curious, in her speech she talked about the causes of the Great Recession, that there betsuni Sep 2019 #35

Upon reading that NBC article about the leaked speech, FoxNewsSucks Sep 2019 #92

You are interested in CT about the speech. betsuni Sep 2019 #100

Sanders should have released his taxes sooner, FoxNewsSucks Sep 2019 #104

She told the banks to "knock it off!" Hassin Bin Sober Sep 2019 #63

Here's Bernie telling fossil fuel industries to knock it off. betsuni Sep 2019 #68

Most politicians... Mike Nelson Sep 2019 #70

I will never forgive this shit: betsuni Sep 2019 #72

47% was newsworthy, FoxNewsSucks Sep 2019 #86

he was campaigning and it was a campaign event.there is nothing corrupt JI7 Sep 2019 #90

Moore is an idiot and an asshole. n/t Mr.Bill Sep 2019 #12

I have no more f###ks to give. Sorry. Tarheel_Dem Sep 2019 #13

I think Moore is right. jalan48 Sep 2019 #14

there is a lot of people on DU who hate Moore and that only gives more fuel to tRump and putin yaesu Sep 2019 #21

How does that help Trump and Putin? OilemFirchen Sep 2019 #43

I think you have it exactly backward BannonsLiver Sep 2019 #105

I agree with Moore too Auggie Sep 2019 #49

He was right last time. jalan48 Sep 2019 #94

Oh well, Michael. Why don't you just tell us all how we should vote for Ralph Nader, again? NNadir Sep 2019 #15

Sorry, but Michael Moore BlueMTexpat Sep 2019 #18

No one cares what Michael Moore says nt BlueMississippi Sep 2019 #20

Michael Moore can kiss my shiny steel ass NoPasaran Sep 2019 #22

Fuck you mchael moore still_one Sep 2019 #23

Is This The Same Michael Moore Me. Sep 2019 #24

yes JI7 Sep 2019 #27

THe Big Hypocrite Me. Sep 2019 #38

things like that show he has no concern for actual everyday workers JI7 Sep 2019 #91

Yet Most People Buy His Line Of Being For The People Me. Sep 2019 #96

I'll get to it right after I finish reading Jill Stein's latest comments Blue Owl Sep 2019 #26

We can't afford ANY new favours for the fossil fuel industry. Gumboot Sep 2019 #28

we couldn't afford to lose 2000 election with liars like Nader helping Bush JI7 Sep 2019 #30

Can you even begin to imagine how different our lives would be? ReformedGOPer Sep 2019 #39

I agree and so called progressives too, I guess they want 4 more years of tRump. nt yaesu Sep 2019 #33

And if Biden is our nominee... Gumboot Sep 2019 #34

the Russians propped up trump Sanders and Stein while all of them attacked Clinton JI7 Sep 2019 #36

Why yes, yes they did...nt comradebillyboy Sep 2019 #55

According to his profile, he doesn't believe the "Russian conspiracies", but he does believe in the Tarheel_Dem Sep 2019 #71

This is correct. betsuni Sep 2019 #73

I can't say what I really think is going on there, but you can probably guess. Tarheel_Dem Sep 2019 #75

+1 betsuni Sep 2019 #76

I trust what the polls say about who's most electable, much more than I trust Michael Moore. highplainsdem Sep 2019 #31

Who are you people anyway? OMG... mudstump Sep 2019 #37

Democrats. You? nt Atticus Sep 2019 #77

When your ideology is based on things that aren't true. betsuni Sep 2019 #40

This is the same obnoxiousdrunk Sep 2019 #41

I'm fine with MM Sucha NastyWoman Sep 2019 #42

I'm going to take a little bit different position on this... Joe941 Sep 2019 #44

"Mitt Romney is going to raise more money than Barack Obama. This should guarantee his victory. betsuni Sep 2019 #52

I'll give romney credit for warning about russia... Joe941 Sep 2019 #54

That was weirdly insightful. betsuni Sep 2019 #59

Lol. Yup you can't make that stuff up. Joe941 Sep 2019 #61

What did Romney warn about ? Romney didn't warn that his own fucking party was going to join with JI7 Sep 2019 #67

Well, I'll say this....F*CK MICHAEL MOORE!!! EOM The_REAL_Ecumenist Sep 2019 #45

Joe doesn't inspire zentrum Sep 2019 #46

Speak for yourself. Sounds like excitement when it's bouncing around in an echo chamber. emmaverybo Sep 2019 #64

Do you agree with Moore? What are your thoughts about his comments?...nt SidDithers Sep 2019 #47

Moore is correct cp Sep 2019 #48

Already encouraging people to stay home on Election Day WOW lunasun Sep 2019 #50

All that is missing from MM's rant is 'Vote Sanders'. crazytown Sep 2019 #57

Natural gas is just as bad a pollutant as coal or oil. Don't kid yourself. YOHABLO Sep 2019 #62

This is war. I respect Warren's approach, but I don't have a problem ecstatic Sep 2019 #65

I like Mike... myohmy2 Sep 2019 #66

He also called McCain, and romney, and said a vote for Gore is a vote for bush still_one Sep 2019 #79

can't... myohmy2 Sep 2019 #85

Contemptible attack. 2016 redux, anyone? Hortensis Sep 2019 #69

Michael Moore also supported Ralph Nader. He's also said that there's "no difference" between... NurseJackie Sep 2019 #74

Passive-Aggressive. betsuni Sep 2019 #78

Kill the messenger. That seems to be the mentality these days. Whenever anything questionable vsrazdem Sep 2019 #80

Michael Moore has a history of saying dumb stuff and wrong things. emulatorloo Sep 2019 #82

There is no disagreement there. However, I do feel that we can express our opinions, and have a vsrazdem Sep 2019 #83

Thanks! .. I think negative campaigning is bad strategy and can backfire. emulatorloo Sep 2019 #89

I agree. There is nothing wrong with debating the positions or even with advancing your chosen vsrazdem Sep 2019 #95

A word for Michael Moore or two...FUCK OFF. You helped elected Trump and W...so get lost. Demsrule86 Sep 2019 #88

Why so much disdain toward Moore? Joe941 Sep 2019 #93

he never brings up the Russian attack on the election JI7 Sep 2019 #102

I quit paying attention to Moore about the same time I quit listening to Sarandon. redstatebluegirl Sep 2019 #101

Same here Gothmog Sep 2019 #107

I sometimes disagree with MM and the way he says things. I also often find myself theophilus Sep 2019 #103