Only a Biden nomination will allow us to take back the Senate too

[sacto95834]

121. GB RN

I totally agree in your analysis. Of course anything can happen between now and November 2020. But as of this moment, based on polls, your analysis is spot on. I would like to talk about the person who will be at the top of the ticket according to this thread.

I don't think the 2020 Presidential will be a cake walk. The Orange Menace's numbers look bad today, but I suspect a lot of those who disapprove of him will vote for him come November 2020 - depending on who gets nominated by our fellow Democrats. I truly think Biden would be one of the weakest candidates we could nominate - a old school, DLC member with moderate views. Sound familiar?

I don't think many of our fellow Democrats here recognize that the electorate has changed. Orange won running as a "populist" - anti-trade, isolationist (his "America First" plank), promising to bring back jobs in industries that are dying and running against the establishment. I think if he didn't have so much awfulness to him, he would have won bigger. Despite what you think of Michael Moore, he was right. The 2016 electorate was furious at being overlooked and wanted to vote for somebody capable of "blowing up/shaking up the establishment." Voila.

I agree with those who have said our path to victory is through the Rustbelt - Wisconsin, Minnesota, Michigan, Ohio and Pennsylvania. Running Biden, who is a firm believer in NAFTA and the TPP is not something that will be embraced. He pretty much campaigns on bringing back sanity to the White House - a return to the Obama years, where nothing much will change. I really don't think this is the winning message. Didn't HRC use this same tactic? Why would re-running the same campaign yield different results in this crucial area?

I do agree that Biden is a nice guy with a short temper. And he has a very LONG record in public life. Some of the positions he took may have played well in the 70s/80s/90s will NOT be acceptable to today's electorate. Yes it was a long time ago, but he will need to explain how he has changed and why his actions would not be done today.

His past has only just begun to appear. If the Democrats don't bring them out in the primary, the Republicans will do so in the General and it will be embellished. I hold no animus for Joe Biden. Hell, I supported him during his 1988 run and would have voted for him had he not dropped out before the primaries got started. Times have changed but I'm not sure Biden has with it; thus I do not find him a strong candidate. Yes he polls well, no doubt, but will it hold into 2020? I think he has two things going for him right now: 1) Strong name recognition; and 2) the vast majority of the electorate (not us political zealots) isn't paying attention yet. The picture will clear once we get closer to Iowa.