Democratic Primaries

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102. i don't agree with the timeline but completely agree with your overall assessment.

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Mon Oct 7, 2019, 07:32 PM

Oct 2019

Especially with buttigieg and warren.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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We are about to see a major shift in the primary. [View all] TidalWave46 Oct 2019 OP

biden is not going anywhere my friend beachbumbob Oct 2019 #1

I disagree. TidalWave46 Oct 2019 #3

Which polls show Biden no longer the front-runner? Please cite support for your claim that his emmaverybo Oct 2019 #12

Here... brooklynite Oct 2019 #78

The investors link concerning TIPP poll contains speculation, but does not show Biden as no longer emmaverybo Oct 2019 #89

Where in Iowa and NH? The delegate count is minsicule. People who live in bubbles, especially beachbumbob Oct 2019 #42

Wait... I'm in the center and I LOVE 💕 Warren! DemocracyMouse Oct 2019 #48

I'm curious lambchopp59 Oct 2019 #11

Well stated! True Dough Oct 2019 #51

Oh so true!! Thekaspervote Oct 2019 #35

based on the data, where he's going is apparently down... brooklynite Oct 2019 #77

this shows you are correct Celerity Oct 2019 #106

Trump Biden Ukraine narrative isn't moving Democratic voters Thekaspervote Oct 2019 #116

HarrisX and Morning Consult are outlier polls with poor methodology nt Celerity Oct 2019 #118

He has already gone further from where he started. Tiggeroshii Oct 2019 #79

If that happens, expect one or two to break free of the pack and challenge Warren. Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2019 #2

I agree with this. TidalWave46 Oct 2019 #4

That's where I am at. Not shooting at any of the candidates. Should blm Oct 2019 #8

There are at least three threads right now attacking Biden by Warren supporters, Demsrule86 Oct 2019 #24

Agree!! Thekaspervote Oct 2019 #117

"It's wrongheaded to attack any of them. I wish people could see that. " emulatorloo Oct 2019 #80

The Report of Biden's Demise has been Exagerated UncleNoel Oct 2019 #5

I haven't read many reports of his demise. TidalWave46 Oct 2019 #7

Tongue in cheek refering to this post. UncleNoel Oct 2019 #33

Things will shake themselves out as they must do Sherman A1 Oct 2019 #6

It's really no longer early. NT TidalWave46 Oct 2019 #9

I disagree Sherman A1 Oct 2019 #15

I don't think it all has to be decided right now. TidalWave46 Oct 2019 #18

But Sherman A1 Oct 2019 #54

I'm not sure why you are confused. TidalWave46 Oct 2019 #55

I agree with you Sherman A1 FM123 Oct 2019 #27

You might be right about Sanders because of the heart attack but Biden is not going anywhere. brush Oct 2019 #10

The primaries aren't the real polls. TidalWave46 Oct 2019 #13

Polls are not votes and can easily be manipulated by pollsters with agendas. Only votes are votes. brush Oct 2019 #16

I've never argued to the contrary. NT TidalWave46 Oct 2019 #19

Posters have been predicting Biden's "imminent" demise for months now. TwilightZone Oct 2019 #14

I have never predicted his demise before. TidalWave46 Oct 2019 #17

Just another hit piece on Biden...more wishful thinking...how about this. Warren Demsrule86 Oct 2019 #20

I don't see this as a hit piece on Biden. TidalWave46 Oct 2019 #22

That's your story and you're stickin' to it! LanternWaste Oct 2019 #23

Pretty easy to stick to. Really straight forward. TidalWave46 Oct 2019 #26

I see it as both. Demsrule86 Oct 2019 #68

That is your thought to hold. TidalWave46 Oct 2019 #71

That is not correct, no supporters of a candidate call themselves "fans" emulatorloo Oct 2019 #82

Why can't Warren connect with AA voters? 58Sunliner Oct 2019 #25

I have no idea why...maybe because over the years she never reached out and now they Demsrule86 Oct 2019 #45

Linking those issues is a statistical reality. 58Sunliner Oct 2019 #86

AA voters I know personally...want the same things we want and resent being Demsrule86 Oct 2019 #97

Warren gets 'dramatic shift' in support from black voters progressoid Oct 2019 #58

The polls wasn't there that showed that...many of us looked.Thus, it was debunked. Demsrule86 Oct 2019 #70

So Biden didn't go down 6 pts while Warren went up 9 with Black voters since August? progressoid Oct 2019 #83

Actually no...I would sugest you look at those polls closely. Demsrule86 Oct 2019 #98

Hmm...OK...looking... progressoid Oct 2019 #120

That's hopeful. I don't know who I prefer, but my options are open. 58Sunliner Oct 2019 #84

She will have to get Congress behind her. She will have to build consensus beyond the progressive emmaverybo Oct 2019 #103

If you think Harris has a chance - 58Sunliner Oct 2019 #21

I think Harris probably has the smallest chance out of the four I mentioned. TidalWave46 Oct 2019 #28

Sanders was already on a downward trajectory. mikeysnot Oct 2019 #29

Uh, no left-of-center2012 Oct 2019 #30

Yes, I am serious about Biden. We are already seeing the trend. TidalWave46 Oct 2019 #32

The trend in polls the last couple of days all give Biden a double digit lead Thekaspervote Oct 2019 #36

9/26 - 10/3 TidalWave46 Oct 2019 #40

Cherry picking means picking ONLY the data which supports an hypothesis. LanternWaste Oct 2019 #65

Did you know that those are the current top polls at RCP. I took them in order as displayed. TidalWave46 Oct 2019 #66

Those polls were cherry picked for Warren's benefit...wait for it...when the media Demsrule86 Oct 2019 #72

RCP cherry picked polls for Warrens benefit? TidalWave46 Oct 2019 #74

I have seen no such trend...the polls that are valid and have pollsters without a Warren Demsrule86 Oct 2019 #46

There's only one person who can turn Ohio blue Gothmog Oct 2019 #91

I hope your wrong because Biden is our best candidate to win swing states njhoneybadger Oct 2019 #31

This is one of my reasons for having Biden at the top of my list. TidalWave46 Oct 2019 #34

No it won't-the GOP will win if Biden is not the candidate...I am convinced none of our candidates Demsrule86 Oct 2019 #47

That doesn't make any sense. TidalWave46 Oct 2019 #50

Latest polling shows Biden with 7 points on Trump, Warren with 2, behind Sanders with 4, and emmaverybo Oct 2019 #56

Thank you for that. NT TidalWave46 Oct 2019 #57

It makes perfect sense when you consider that Trump will go for an Demsrule86 Oct 2019 #67

He doesn't only need three states. TidalWave46 Oct 2019 #69

He will hold the states he won in 16...which are deep red...but the blue Demsrule86 Oct 2019 #73

The three states argument isn't "accurate." TidalWave46 Oct 2019 #76

What about the purple/pink states? Rstrstx Oct 2019 #115

I would not count on any of those states....every election we think they will turn but the don't. Demsrule86 Oct 2019 #123

Biden is the only candidate who is ahead of trump outside margin of error Gothmog Oct 2019 #92

That is one state. TidalWave46 Oct 2019 #93

That is one of the key states that we need to flip Gothmog Oct 2019 #94

Except for one election we have won it since 84. TidalWave46 Oct 2019 #95

Without Wisconsin, trump will have a hard time Gothmog Oct 2019 #99

Bernie is headed to the "Bottom Tier" ? ritapria Oct 2019 #37

This message was self-deleted by its author iamateacher Oct 2019 #38

This message was self-deleted by its author elocs Oct 2019 #39

Wishful thinking tidal wave. FloridaBlues Oct 2019 #41

No wishful thinking here. TidalWave46 Oct 2019 #43

If tRump is allowed to oust Biden with lies, Bayard Oct 2019 #44

Trump has nothing else. TidalWave46 Oct 2019 #49

But but but...it helps Warren so it is OK to team up with GOP nonsense. Demsrule86 Oct 2019 #75

"Controversy and Scandal" is what Trump does Baked Potato Oct 2019 #52

Biden is not going anywhere Gothmog Oct 2019 #53

I don't think he is going anywhere. TidalWave46 Oct 2019 #62

Poll: Biden holds 24-point lead over Democratic field among black voters Gothmog Oct 2019 #63

Solid lead with a very important subset of voters. TidalWave46 Oct 2019 #64

as Biden would say, buncha melarky onetexan Oct 2019 #59

Biden's lock on SC and the south in general is his firewall. honest.abe Oct 2019 #60

Very very hard to disagree with this in any way. TidalWave46 Oct 2019 #61

which is wild when you consider none of those states will go for biden or any democrat Lib 4 Life Oct 2019 #107

I guess you dont understand the purpose of the primary process. honest.abe Oct 2019 #110

i guess I'm right. if these states aren't going to even have a chance to elect a democrat Lib 4 Life Oct 2019 #111

Clearly you are confused about the primary process. honest.abe Oct 2019 #112

There are Democrats in every state. They have a voice wasupaloopa Oct 2019 #113

Yet another daily earth-shattering, surging, major shift treestar Oct 2019 #81

I really think that it is too early BlueMTexpat Oct 2019 #85

While my thoughts on Biden moving forward... TidalWave46 Oct 2019 #87

I think that you are probably more BlueMTexpat Oct 2019 #88

Biden continues to perform better than Warren in head-to-head match-ups against Trump Gothmog Oct 2019 #90

1 Million Calls To Voters AFTER Sanders' Heart Attack corbettkroehler Oct 2019 #96

I wouldn't count Biden out just yet, but you make excellent points. cwydro Oct 2019 #100

Donald Trump has abused the foreign policy of the United States to extract personal, political favor Gothmog Oct 2019 #101

i don't agree with the timeline but completely agree with your overall assessment. Lib 4 Life Oct 2019 #102

meh... RazBerryBeret Oct 2019 #104

Absolutely true. Also: Bernie for Sec of Labor sharedvalues Oct 2019 #105

You may be right but it sucks. mahina Oct 2019 #108

I really like the field. TidalWave46 Oct 2019 #121

Go Joe.... LakeArenal Oct 2019 #109

What about Booker? ecstatic Oct 2019 #114

Excellent banter in this thread, a testament to the Dem voter base debate process lambchopp59 Oct 2019 #119

One major flaw in your analysis. TidalWave46 Oct 2019 #122

Given, yet it's only one of the potions in their bag of tricks lambchopp59 Oct 2019 #124