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vsrazdem

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7. Another example of why Biden should not be the nominee.

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Thu Oct 17, 2019, 11:59 AM

Oct 2019

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Every Woman Noticed That Infuriating Elizabeth Warren/Joe Biden Debate Moment [View all] bluewater Oct 2019 OP

K&R for visibility. nt tblue37 Oct 2019 #1

He tried to make it about him pattyloutwo Oct 2019 #2

Biden either misremembered or lied about significantly helping to pass the CFPB. w4rmaa Oct 2019 #49

It's a team sport... TidalWave46 Oct 2019 #3

Biden went way over the line. Raising his voice and aggressive hand gestures made it all much worse. HeartlandProgressive Oct 2019 #4

I agree. Ohiogal Oct 2019 #28

this is why representation matters. mopinko Oct 2019 #5

This woman has been there, but I see two sides. Biden was clearly hurt by her acknowledgement only hlthe2b Oct 2019 #6

You have the sequencing wrong BeyondGeography Oct 2019 #8

You apparently missed the point she was trying to make when she offered, to counter Biden highplainsdem Oct 2019 #19

We'll never know if she would have thanked them because he interrupted her bigbrother05 Oct 2019 #43

No. Biden did NOT interrupt her while she was touting her own role. She ran over allotted time highplainsdem Oct 2019 #81

Yeah no. MrsCoffee Oct 2019 #45

How do you know he helped get it passed? Bradshaw3 Oct 2019 #69

She did NOT only acknowledge Obama whathehell Oct 2019 #56

I like Warren. I don't blame her for reacting. However, hlthe2b Oct 2019 #59

You must have been watching a different debate than I.. whathehell Oct 2019 #63

It is after the outburst I am talking about. Go watch yourself. I understand but BOTH came off badly hlthe2b Oct 2019 #65

Another example of why Biden should not be the nominee. vsrazdem Oct 2019 #7

Yup, because Bernie has never, ever acted in such a way. oasis Oct 2019 #17

More whataboutism. I support Bernie because he paved the way for the party to embrace vsrazdem Oct 2019 #38

I think you confuse paving with bulldozing. MrsCoffee Oct 2019 #46

x1000! peggysue2 Oct 2019 #51

Nice spin. Blistering Sun Oct 2019 #9

Though I posted a more moderating view, still this makes sense. UncleNoel Oct 2019 #57

This woman noticed it, and I found Warren's behavior infuriating. I thought she highplainsdem Oct 2019 #10

It is news to me BlueMTexpat Oct 2019 #12

No, it was petty and snarky not to acknowledge Biden's help. Whether or not she likes it, highplainsdem Oct 2019 #13

Please see response #11! eom BlueMTexpat Oct 2019 #14

Saw it. Disagree with it. I thought Warren came across as more paronizing. highplainsdem Oct 2019 #16

We will strongly agree to BlueMTexpat Oct 2019 #18

"Petty and snarky'?...Biden YELLED at her, ffs whathehell Oct 2019 #61

Thank you and spot on. cwydro Oct 2019 #48

I find Warren's criticisms very much on point. floppyboo Oct 2019 #21

By the time Warren wrote that, she had worked for Dow when they were being highplainsdem Oct 2019 #83

"I found Warren's behavior infuriating ... petty and snarky." crazytown Oct 2019 #52

See reply 81. highplainsdem Oct 2019 #82

"You did a hell of a job in your job" - Patronizing Much? Modern Fictions Oct 2019 #11

kick floppyboo Oct 2019 #22

An article on The Intercept also backs up what spooky3 Oct 2019 #31

Saw that. I'll take what Goolsbee and Bernstein remember over The Intercept. And btw, highplainsdem Oct 2019 #36

Sorry, I prefer to have evidence. Nt spooky3 Oct 2019 #40

Bernstein's and Goolsbee's statements are evidence, just as much as anyone highplainsdem Oct 2019 #42

Evidence that Biden did nothing memorable to pass it, maybe except for Biden's employees. w4rmaa Oct 2019 #73

Sorry, Goolsbee and Bernstein aren't exactly unbiased Bradshaw3 Oct 2019 #71

As opposed, of course, to the totally neutral Intercept... OilemFirchen Oct 2019 #78

That's the moment that jumped out at me. intheflow Oct 2019 #66

Better gird your loins. That won't go over well here. StarfishSaver Oct 2019 #15

Woman here...and if Warren and group are going to fall apart at this.. There Peacetrain Oct 2019 #20

OMG! Fall Apart???? Next, we'll resurrect 'Hysterical'? floppyboo Oct 2019 #25

Woman here too... Biden lost his composure, not Warren. HeartlandProgressive Oct 2019 #26

Funny thing Andy823 Oct 2019 #27

I think it's a very flawed tactic they are using in response to the negative press. TidalWave46 Oct 2019 #29

+1,000,000 highplainsdem Oct 2019 #37

LOL @ Anyone Thinking that Warren Might Have 'Fallen Apart' . . OldManTarHeel Oct 2019 #41

Exactly! BlueMTexpat Oct 2019 #76

Exactly, she is not ready. I still believe based on polls that Biden is our nominee. Demsrule86 Oct 2019 #80

I'm a woman DeterDeter Oct 2019 #23

"You did a good job at your job." aidbo Oct 2019 #32

And? DeterDeter Oct 2019 #33

It was a bizarre moment and made me uncomfortable. Politicub Oct 2019 #24

The sexism here is people acting like the little woman got beat up. TidalWave46 Oct 2019 #30

Agreed, Warren is strong and tough as nails. emulatorloo Oct 2019 #35

This is my first presidential primary on this site awesomerwb1 Oct 2019 #34

See my reply 36 above. Dodd-Frank needed a few Republican votes, two from senators that Biden had highplainsdem Oct 2019 #39

Highlights a core weakness of Warren MD shmoo Oct 2019 #44

Well said and without rancor peggysue2 Oct 2019 #64

The lesson I learned was that Repub votes were needed for EW's plan. She couldn't get them - JB did. Skya Rhen Oct 2019 #47

According to everybody who actually helped whip votes to pass the CFPB, Biden did NOT help. w4rmaa Oct 2019 #53

Jared Bernstein: Biden fought hard to get votes for Dodd/Frank & to make sure Sen Warren's idea Skya Rhen Oct 2019 #62

Dodd/Frank is not the CFPB. And I found this as a reply to Biden's former employee: w4rmaa Oct 2019 #72

You are wasting BlueMTexpat Oct 2019 #77

Nothing burger. 😫 ecstatic Oct 2019 #50

Agree. LakeArenal Oct 2019 #58

This one post and it's comments snowybirdie Oct 2019 #54

Um, no. bluewater Oct 2019 #74

I am not a woman, but I saw this differently. UncleNoel Oct 2019 #55

Biden did "Nothing." to win votes for the CFPB, according to the lead author. He was due no credit. w4rmaa Oct 2019 #60

The Intercept said there was no Russian interference in 2016. They burned a whistleblower emulatorloo Oct 2019 #67

Welcome to DU! Kind of Blue Oct 2019 #68

You are welcome. w4rmaa Oct 2019 #70

Yeah. I need a drink, too, sometimes, as Manley who worked Kind of Blue Oct 2019 #84

We also notice how differently it's characterized when women and people of color push back AND StarfishSaver Oct 2019 #75

I am a woman and I didn't...you can't have it both ways...Biden doesn't have to cater to Warren Demsrule86 Oct 2019 #79

My impression redqueen Oct 2019 #85